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Agenda for Friday's RM Call
by David Snelling 12 Jul '07

12 Jul '07

Folks, After a few weeks off, we will hold our call on Friday. The main item for the agenda is to listen to a summary of the work being done by the GLUE WG and sync up their perspective with our efforts. RM-WG scheduled 13 July 2007 from 15:00 to 16:00 UTC +44-800-085-6481 +1-888-237-8573 Passcode: 2051278 -- Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Limited Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE Reg. No. 4153469 +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)

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[Invitation] Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) @ 2007-07-12 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 11 Jul '07

11 Jul '07

glue-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Info/data modeling (Ellen Stokes) Time: 2007-07-12 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) the container model doc final review (Ellen Stokes) - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14004 Minutes approval June 28: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14651 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YTNpNW40dXVicHJrZGhjb2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account glue-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Fw: request time on reference model workgroup agenda for friday july 13
by Ellen Stokes 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

details for ref model wg call on Friday July 13 10am-11am central / 5pm-6pm central europe / 4pm-5pm uk US: +1 888 237 8573 pass code 2051278 more dial in numbers are in attached document (same passcode as above) Glance - http://rmwg.glance.net <http://rmwg.glance.net/>, passcode <MMDD> link to rm-wg wiki for materials, agendas, dial-in numbers, etc...http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.rm-wg/wiki/Ho… Ellen ----- Forwarded by Ellen Stokes/Austin/IBM on 07/10/2007 11:38 AM ----- David Snelling <david.snelling(a)uk.fujitsu.com> 07/10/2007 09:11 AM To Ellen Stokes/Austin/IBM@IBMUS cc "Strong, Paul" <pstrong(a)ebay.com>, sergio.andreozzi(a)cnaf.infn.it, laurence.field(a)cern.ch Subject Re: request time on reference model workgroup agenda for friday july 13 Paul, Ellen, It's OK with me. Paul? On 10 Jul 2007, at 14:57, Ellen Stokes wrote: > > Paul or David, > > The glue workgroup would like to set of time on this friday's ref > model call (July 13) to have a dialog with your group on the model > relationship of service, resource, and site. > > Is this possible? If not, let us know which ref model call this > can be put on the agenda. > > Thanks. > Ellen -- Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Limited Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE Reg. No. 4153469 +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)

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Phone Conference
by Laurence Field 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Here are the details for the next Glue Schema meeting. Date: Tuesday 10 July 2007 Time: 15:00 Title: Glue Schema Organiser: Laurence Field Dial: +41 22 767 7000 and ask to be connected to "Glue Schema Meeting". Draft Agenda: Site and Service Use Cases Site and Service Model CE Use Cases CE Info Model SE Use Cases SE Info Model

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Meeting Minutes
by Laurence Field 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Attendance: Steve Fisher Balazs Konya Sergio Andreozzi Ellen Stokes Felix Ehm Laurence Field Stephen Burke Agenda Bashing: Discuss the Glue Session for OGF 21 We now have the ability to use Glance in our meetings, thanks to Hiro. Presentation of the Doc: Has be update to conform to the OGF template. Discussion on the Computing Element. Steve Fisher, Stephen Burke, Ellen and Laurence are not in favour. Steve suggest that there could be a many to many relationships between sites (organizations). There seems to be a general issue requiring a definition of the site, service, resource entities and relationships. Ellen suggests taking a look at the UML and description of CIM to help in the understanding. Action: Join the Reference Model phone call to discuss this issue further. Sergio will be going to the DMFT meeting and can have some more discussions with them. Use Cases: Stephen Burke asked about missing monitoring use cases. Laurence states that if people are not going to help provide use cases then there is nothing much we can do. We can only do our best to cover the use cases that we think should be there. Comments on missing use cases and other suggestions should be given to Laurence who will consolidate them and update the document. Steve F does not like the categorization of the document. Laurence thinks that the categorization is ok as it groups use cases, however, this is a minor editorial issue and can be sorted out at a later date. Steven Burke: How much do use cases define attributes. Sergio asked about the process. Laurence: The use case document helps us to understand why we are defining the schema and to keep our focus. There does not need to be a formal process. Actions: Read the document and provide Laurence with feedback. Laurence will bring any issues up at a future phone conference. Steve F: What is the meaning of multiplicity? Ellen suggests that this would be a profile document. This would be something that would be owned by the gin-wg OGF 21: 2 combined sessions on entities and use cases and 1 joint sessions with BES, reference model, jsdl, saga etc. Next Meeting: Friday 13th 17:55 CET. Details will be send to the Glue Schema list

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OGF 21 planning
by Sergio Andreozzi 10 Jul '07

10 Jul '07

Hi everybody, I got the action to define the details of the next OGF 21 planning. Given the suggestions provided at the today telecon, here is the requests that I will make during the next days: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.glue-wg/wiki/Participatio… Please, have a look and provide for any change if needed. Cheers, Sergio -- Sergio Andreozzi INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi

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New draft of GLUE 2.0 Specification
by Sergio Andreozzi 09 Jul '07

09 Jul '07

Hi everybody, we have just uploaded a new draft of the GLUE 2.0 specification. Here are the main changes: - clarify difference between computing resource and computing element - from Gerson Galang use case: single computing service in front of two different batch systems - general clean-up - inclusion of first UML Class diagram for Storage Element (description to be added) - added activity entity - promoted share entity as a main concept you can find it in the draft section of GLUE WG document repository: http://forge.ogf.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.glue-wg/docman.roo… we plan to provide a preview of the new changes in the tomorrow call of the OGSA Resource Management Design Team phonecall: http://www.google.com/calendar/event?eid=N25vaWg5MjQ4NTRzOWJpdTU0c3VwMWZzcm… (we apologize for the short-term advise) We will set up a phonecall next week for the GLUE WG. Comments/questions are always welcome. Best regards, Sergio and Balazs -- Sergio Andreozzi INFN-CNAF, Tel: +39 051 609 2860 Viale Berti Pichat, 6/2 Fax: +39 051 609 2746 40126 Bologna (Italy) Web: http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~andreozzi

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GLUE schema in XML and UML
by Wang, Lizhe 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

Hello everyone: I have a Glue XML schema 1.2 version. I want to find latest Glue schema in XML or UML format. Could anyone help me? Best regards, Lizhe Wang Institute for Scientific Computing (IWR) Research Center Karlsruhe (FZK) Hermann-von-Helmholtz-Platz 1 D-76344 Eggenstein-Leopoldshafen, Germany Tel: 0049-(0)7247-82-6304 Fax: 0049-(0)7247-82-4972 e-mail: Lizhe.Wang(a)iwr.fzk.de Office: Zi A-203, IWR, FZK

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Computing Element
by Laurence Field 03 Jul '07

03 Jul '07

As far as I understand the Computing Element entity is use to encapsulate the relationship between the Computing Service and the Computing Resource. I am not sure if it is good to use an entity to describe this relationship. Can we just define a relationship between the service and the resource directly and remove the Computing Element? Laurence

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[ogsa-wg] Teleconference minutes - 28 June 2007 - Info model
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jul '07

01 Jul '07

Minutes for Info model session attached. Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14651 Thanks Donal for taking nodes, -- Hiro Kishimoto OGSA Teleconference - 28 June 2007 - Info model =============================================== * Participants Chris Kantarjiev (Oracle) Laurence Field (CERN) Felix Ehm (CERN) Ellen Stokes (IBM) Balazs Konya (Lund University) Donal Fellows (UMAN) Sergio Andreozzi (INFN) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) ZackK Minutes: Donal Fellows * June 7 minutes accepted * action items review See GLUE-WG minutes from 14 June - http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/glue-wg/2007-June/000070.html 1: draft use case docs: DONE, uploaded to Glue Wiki 2: Ellen to speak to rm-wg: NOT DONE 3: pull jds & ogsa on opening storage discussion: DONE but no response 4: upload Glue 1.3: DONE 5: coordinator(==Felix) introduce himself to telecon: DONE worries about SE schema being driven by SRM transfer relevant ogsa AIs to GlueWG: Agreed and closed at OGSA-WG side. * AI-0607a: Doug or Chris S to look at the use cases template and consider mapping the SAS use cases to this template. - Can be added to the wiki or mailed to the group. * AI-0607b: Doug to test if attributes on the Execution Environment can address the need for boolean capabilities. * Ellen's CIM doc progress draft 8 reflects progress so far now being balloted hoping for a "slam dunk" major change: how to define a container model object use Computer System specialize with profile (open Q: where to do profiling work, DMTF or OGF) on target for publish in Aug/Sept doc to go to WG Final Call; end date: July 12, 2007 please get comments to Ellen by EOB July 9, 2007 * glue 2.0 discussion getting comments/feedback need more work on storage element ALL: please send suggestions for places to advertise the use-case doc 2.0 draft: some questions about how to communicate which Computing Share (queue) to use during submission some bugs with picture rendering WGs to contact re storage element schema: OGSA-DATA OGSA-DMI OGSA-ByteIO What about relationship with CIM schema? Extension? Ellen is best person to talk to first Sergio is going to do presentation on Glue to DMTF Alliance Parter Technology Summit (July 17-21 Portland Oregon)

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