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Re: Sterilized Medflies of Crypto
by peb＠PROCASE.COM 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

>hardware backdoor The NSA does mask inspection for it's own purposes. They require source code for products they buy under certain conditions too. The CIA has been accused of stealing a company's source code and reselling said software modified with a trojan horse to specific targets outside the U.S. I don't remember the name of the company, but read about the lawsuit pending against the government. Anyone have more details? This is nice evidence for people who think the spooks are fully accountable. Paul E. Baclace peb(a)procase.com

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crypto in HK
by Brad Huntting 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

Greetings from Hong Kong. I've spent the last couple weeks helping setup Hong Kong SuperNet, the first dialup Internet provider in China. Sudenly last week, it dawned on me! I'm not in Kansas anymore! I dont have to worry about ludicrous RSA patents, or antiquated export laws! In fact there's not much respect for any intelectual property laws here, but that's another matter.... So, I have two question's: First, where (outside of the US) can I ftp (or mirror) the latest version of PGP? Second, does anyone know where I can find the RSA extensions for ISODE (often called the osisec package). There's an ftp site in the UK, but the files are all des'ed, and the person with the key is ignoring my e-mail messages. brad

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ADMIN: misconfigured host north.net has been removed from the list
by Eric Hughes 04 Aug '93

04 Aug '93

The host north.net is misconfigured to send mail to itself forever, that is, until it bounces. I've removed it from the list, so any further problems with this host may be ignored. Eric

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Cypherpunk Mailing List
by Jon_Axelrad＠third.wsgr.com 03 Aug '93

03 Aug '93

I've read about the cypherpunks and your mailing list in recent issues of _Wired_ and the _Whole Earth Review_. I support your goals and would appreciate being added to the mailing list. While I probably couldn't contribute to discussions from a technical standpoint, I am a lawyer and may have an occasional useful comment on policy/legal matters.

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mail failed, returning to sender (fwd)
by bart＠netcom.com 03 Aug '93

03 Aug '93

Forwarded message:

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PKZIP Encryption is worthless
by nobody＠pmantis.berkeley.edu 03 Aug '93

03 Aug '93

To the best of my knowledge, PKZip uses a simple Vigenere algorithm for its encryption. There is a program called "zipcrack", widely available on BBSes, that does cryptanalysis of encrypted PKZip files. The rumor is that the "zipcrack" program originated in Russia, but really, cryptanalysis of the stuff that PK is using is relatively trivial. There are many good implementations of DES, including Symantec's in the Norton Utilities. You could also use PGP. But don't rely on PKZip to protect your privacy. That's not what it's designed for. Note the reply-to address above if you wish to reply.

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mail failed, returning to sender
by MAILER-DAEMON＠uunorth.north.net 03 Aug '93

03 Aug '93

|------------------------- Failed addresses follow: ---------------------| accesspt.north.net!brettm ... loop detection: maximum hop count exceeded |------------------------- Message text follows: ------------------------| Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNUVi-0001dLC; Tue, 3 Aug 93 18:07 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNUTS-0001b8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 18:04 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNURC-0001dKC; Tue, 3 Aug 93 18:02 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNUOM-0001b8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:59 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNULt-0001c8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:57 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNUJT-0001c8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:54 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNUH5-0001c7C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:52 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNUEY-0001c7C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:49 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNUBz-0001b8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:46 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNU9a-0001b8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:44 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNU79-0001c7C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:41 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTpc-0001c7C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:23 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTnB-0001c8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:21 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTka-0001c8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:18 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTiB-0001c8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:15 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTfX-0001c8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:13 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTcu-0001c8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:10 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTaB-0001c7C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:07 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTXp-0001c7C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:05 EDT Received: from uunorth.uucp by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNTVY-0001c8C; Tue, 3 Aug 93 17:02 EDT Received: from netcom.com by uunorth.north.net with uucp (Smail3.1.28.1) id m0oNJFk-0001eWC; Tue, 3 Aug 93 06:05 EDT Received: from toad.com by relay2.UU.NET with SMTP (5.61/UUNET-internet-primary) id AA26190; Tue, 3 Aug 93 06:06:28 -0400 Received: by toad.com id AA20888; Tue, 3 Aug 93 02:57:42 PDT Received: by toad.com id AA20824; Tue, 3 Aug 93 02:55:25 PDT Return-Path: <bart(a)netcom.com> Received: from netcom5.netcom.com ([192.100.81.113]) by toad.com id AA20820; Tue, 3 Aug 93 02:55:23 PDT Received: by netcom5.netcom.com (5.65/SMI-4.1/Netcom) id AA27451; Tue, 3 Aug 93 02:56:11 -0700 From: bart(a)netcom.com (Harry Bartholomew) Message-Id: <9308030956.AA27451(a)netcom5.netcom.com> Subject: Other shoe drop confirmation To: cypherpunks(a)toad.com Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 2:56:10 PDT X-Mailer: ELM [version 2.3 PL11] Well, somebody else heard the story as I did. Bart >From netcom.com!csus.edu!decwrl!decwrl!spool.mu.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!ddsw1!uunet!news.claremont.edu!ucivax!ucla-cs!gast Tue Aug 3 02:52:20 1993 Newsgroups: alt.privacy.clipper Path: netcom.com!csus.edu!decwrl!decwrl!spool.mu.edu!agate!library.ucla.edu!ddsw1!uunet!news.claremont.edu!ucivax!ucla-cs!gast From: gast(a)cs.ucla.edu Subject: FBI wants to ban Crypto Message-ID: <1993Aug3.012316.9036(a)cs.ucla.edu> Originator: gast(a)oahu.cs.ucla.edu Sender: usenet(a)cs.ucla.edu (Mr Usenet) Nntp-Posting-Host: oahu.cs.ucla.edu Reply-To: gast(a)CS.UCLA.EDU (David Gast) Organization: UCLA Computer Science Department Distribution: alt Date: Tue, 3 Aug 93 01:23:16 GMT Lines: 10 I just heard a little of the report on NPR on Saturday, but it seems that the FBI went public last week at a security conference with its desires to ban cryptography, at least crypto that it cannot break. The FBI said that in four different wiretap cases, it got encrypted messages instead of talk. I know that the FBI has previously announced similar plans including at CFP-2, but this seems to be a new salvo. David --

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another shirt idea...
by Brian D Williams 03 Aug '93

03 Aug '93

How 'bout this one; NSA Mother to Big Brother MYK-78 Brian Williams Cypherpatriot

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PKZIP Encryption Been Compromised?
by Reply to: hahn＠lds.loral.com 03 Aug '93

03 Aug '93

A friend of mine tells me that the encryption feature of the PKZIP compressor/archiver is vulnerable. I have been using it for private material that is not to be passed to anybody else. To what extent is this material vulnerable to attack, given that the attacker has no examples of a plaintext/ciphertext pair using my key. Also, to what extent is the vulnerability a function of the key length? Thanks in advance to anybody who can help me. Karl | (V) | "Tiger gotta hunt. Bird gotta fly. | (^ (`> | Man gotta sit and wonder why, why, why. | ((\\__/ ) | Tiger gotta sleep. Bird gotta land. | (\\< ) der Nethahn | Man gotta tell himself he understand." | \< ) | | ( / | Kurt Vonnegut Jr. | | | | ^ |

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REMAIL: Virtual remailers
by anonymous＠extropia.wimsey.com 03 Aug '93

03 Aug '93

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- I run two remailers; one is hal(a)alumni.caltech.edu and the other is hfinney(a)shell.portal.com. The first one is on a system to which I have free access, while the second is on a system for which I am paying about $40 a month. I feel like the second one is "stronger" politically, since I am paying hard-earned money for it. Also, I remember the summaries that were posted of last year's Hacker's conference, in which it was stated that the owner of the Portal system was eager to support remailers. I don't know if he realizes that he is indirectly supporting them now since I am using my Portal account to run one, but I feel that if they get some complaints and come to me, I might be able to get the boss to step in on my behalf. Given this situation, it has occured to me that it would be easy to have the caltech remailer forward all mail to the portal remailer, to be remailed from there. This way nobody would receive objectionable mail from the caltech account, and no one would ask for it to be shut down. In the past, we have had suggestions that this would be a desirable mode of operation for our cypherpunks remailers: to have the "front ends" be a different set of machines than the actual remailers. It was said that this would represent a sort of "distributed computing" environment, a "virtual remailer" that would span the network, thus making it harder to shut down. I did not really agree with these arguments, since I felt that the targets would simply be the final-remailing machines, since these are the ones from which people would receive anonymous mail. If they were shut down, then other machines would have to come on-line to replace them. Given that such replacements actually existed, I felt that it would be better simply to use them from the beginning as stand-alone remailers, so that there would be more remailers out there for people to use. Now I am faced with a concrete test of this principle, and I'm soliciting suggestions. Would it be better to keep my two remailers operating, even though I might eventually have to shut one down due if complaints arise? Or should I make one just a front-end for the other, thereby creating a "virtual remailer" (a term I don't really agree with) which spans the two machines and which makes it unlikely that the front-end remailer at caltech will be terminated. Are there any advantages to having the caltech remailer if it just feeds into the one at portal? I'm not sure I see much point in keeping it operating if it performs no useful task. On the other hand, if people do see advantages, we could create a set of "second-tier" remailers which would be politically safe. They would always feed into one of the "first-tier" remailers which would be the ones which would actually send mail. No anonymous mail or postings would ever come from these second-tier remailers, hence their operators, owners, and sysops would receive no complaints. Perhaps more people would be willing to run remailers on this basis, knowing they were relatively immune from political pressure. Hal Finney hfinney(a)shell.portal.com -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- iQCVAgUBLF2/d6gTA69YIUw3AQEHOQP/dU996sl0yQk8FlbSVG3LjUzLOIg7ktGs 57IRPU9zWJXOTGbxxhcA/p+kApXzU4hwnLV4ch9+DFst/hPFDMoHuuetmUMSLscL EjaCz5ySzS532i/6TdfNbHMiDMgpWNIorQCysC+Ilpi5J9VCBXURbd0ZSlMPj19a 0crq5P/scvA= -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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