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(Evolving) Consortium Specification Example
by Hiro Kishimoto 05 Jun '05

05 Jun '05

Hi all, At June 1st call, I took an action item to find more suitable example for Consortium Specification and Evolving Consortium Specification. Since EGA does not intend to define standards, they are not a perfect example for "Consortium." After due consideration and research, I arrive at a proposal of "GLUE schema." The GLUE Schema is a proposed specification by the EU-DataTAG and US-iVDGL projects. http://www.cnaf.infn.it/~sergio/datatag/glue/index.htm I think Glue Schema 1.1 is a Consortium Specification and Glue Schema 1.2 is an Evolving Consortium Specification. Hope it helps, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Re: [ogsa-wg] RM teleconference on the 7th: sync with OGSA-BES
by Hiro Kishimoto 04 Jun '05

04 Jun '05

Mark's email bounced. ---- Hiro Kishimoto Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 09:15:47 -0400 From: "Mark M. Morgan" <mmm2a(a)cs.virginia.edu> To: Fred Maciel <fred-m(a)crl.hitachi.co.jp> Cc: GGF - ogsa-wg ml <ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org>, ogsa-bes-wg(a)ggf.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] RM teleconference on the 7th: sync with OGSA-BES Just a slight correction -- BES has decided to look seriously at using CIM to model the container, but I don't think we can say with 100% assurance that we "will" use it. Also, the main purpose of the teleconference on Tuesday isn't a synchronization point (that will come later after a decision has in fact been made), but rather Fred offered the teleconference as a way for the OGSA-BES team to learn more about CIM and get details that will help the team come to a conclusion about whether or not CIM is appopriate and if so, how to use it. -Mark > Hi, > > And now for something slightly different. OGSA-BES-WG decided to > use CIM to model the container, and we have to work on the semantics > (choosing what to include from CIM) and the rendering (how we show > that). We will use the Resource Management (RM) teleconference as a > way to join the CIM experts and the related OGSA-BES participants to > discuss the details. Examples of things to discuss: > > - Do we choose the container properties by CIM classes or by CIM > property? What do do if a property in a class has nothing to do with > the container? > - How to render these classes and properties so that they can be accessed? > - What are the properties of a container? Jobs? Operating system? Host > information such as CPU architecture? > - How this relates to the short-term milestone of showing JSIM attributes? > > This teleconference will be an important synchronization point > between OGSA-BES and the RM design team, and a golden opportunity to > get lots of questions on CIM answered. On the other hand, we won't > have time to discuss the CIM-GLUE-JSDL comparision in this > teleconference. > > Date: Tuesday, June 7th, at the following times: > - 11:00-12:00 US Pacific (GMT - 7) > - 12:00-13:00 US Mountain (GMT - 6) > - 13:00-14:00 US Central (GMT - 5) > - 14:00-15:00 US Eastern (GMT - 4) > - 18:00-19:00 GMT > - 19:00-20:00 UK (GMT + 1) > - 20:00-21:00 Central Europe (GMT + 2) > - 03:00-04:00 Japan (GMT + 9, following day) -- sorry. > > Dial-in: > Toll Free: (888) 422-7120 > Int'l Access: (608) 250-0194 > Participant code: 693305 > > If screen sharing is needed, let's use Glance: > URL: http://ogsa.glance.net > Session key: 0607 > Explanation: > > http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.ht > ml > > See you there, > > Fred Maciel > Hitachi America R&D

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RM teleconference on the 7th: sync with OGSA-BES
by Fred Maciel 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

Hi, And now for something slightly different. OGSA-BES-WG decided to use CIM to model the container, and we have to work on the semantics (choosing what to include from CIM) and the rendering (how we show that). We will use the Resource Management (RM) teleconference as a way to join the CIM experts and the related OGSA-BES participants to discuss the details. Examples of things to discuss: - Do we choose the container properties by CIM classes or by CIM property? What do do if a property in a class has nothing to do with the container? - How to render these classes and properties so that they can be accessed? - What are the properties of a container? Jobs? Operating system? Host information such as CPU architecture? - How this relates to the short-term milestone of showing JSIM attributes? This teleconference will be an important synchronization point between OGSA-BES and the RM design team, and a golden opportunity to get lots of questions on CIM answered. On the other hand, we won't have time to discuss the CIM-GLUE-JSDL comparision in this teleconference. Date: Tuesday, June 7th, at the following times: - 11:00-12:00 US Pacific (GMT - 7) - 12:00-13:00 US Mountain (GMT - 6) - 13:00-14:00 US Central (GMT - 5) - 14:00-15:00 US Eastern (GMT - 4) - 18:00-19:00 GMT - 19:00-20:00 UK (GMT + 1) - 20:00-21:00 Central Europe (GMT + 2) - 03:00-04:00 Japan (GMT + 9, following day) -- sorry. Dial-in: Toll Free: (888) 422-7120 Int'l Access: (608) 250-0194 Participant code: 693305 If screen sharing is needed, let's use Glance: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0607 Explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html See you there, Fred Maciel Hitachi America R&D

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Agenda for Monday meeting
by Andrew Grimshaw 03 Jun '05

03 Jun '05

All, Our next telecon is Monday, June 6th at 11 AM Eastern time. Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-422-0036 Toll/International dial-in: 1-314-655-1412 Tie-line dial-in: 422-0036 Participant passcode: 496684 Will use glance, ogsa.glance.net. 1 hour Proposed Agenda: Agenda bashing WS Name Resolution from the name document sent out last time. I have uploaded this into the OGSA-WG Naming Design team space until we become a regular working group https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/WS-Naming_version_0/en /1 Specifically discuss a modification to resolution (minor) to allow for resolution of EPR's that do not contain AbstractNames. Mark Morgan will present. Discuss whether the group is OK with moving forward to turning the draft document into a GGF style document for submission to the process. If and only if we finish the above, charter discussions about RNS. Andrew

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Agenda for Thursday BES call
by Andrew Grimshaw 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Note: Will continue to cross-post to OGSA-wg until after GGF 14. Toll-free dial-in: 1-877-422-0036 Toll/International dial-in: 1-314-655-1412 Tie-line dial-in: 422-0036 Participant passcode: 496684 Time: 10 AM eastern 0700 Pacific 3 PM UK 4 PM Europe 1 hour Proposed Agenda: Agenda bashing Overview of conclusions from London meeting Minutes approval of London meeting Management interfaces/resource properties, relationship to DMTF etc. Wrap up As an aside I am preparing a DRAFT GGF style document based on the earlier document.

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Three OGSA documents for GGF14 (Roadmap updated)
by Treadwell, Jem 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Hi, I've updated the Roadmap document in line with contributions made at and following the f2f. There are still a couple of pieces missing, but it's getting pretty close to completion now. It's significantly changed from the earlier draft. I had some issues caused by a Word crash, but I believe I've salvaged everything. If you see any problems, let me know. To avoid clutter I accepted lots of minor editing changes and anything we discussed at the f2f, so the markup mostly reflects the items we need to review. The current version (v9) is at http://tinyurl.com/dbvgh. - Jem -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto Sent: Tuesday, May 31, 2005 10:45 AM To: 'ogsa-wg' Subject: [ogsa-wg] Three OGSA documents for GGF14 Hi all, OGSA-WG plans to submit the following three documents before GGF14. These are very good shape but still working documents, please turn MS word comments on and read them at the same time. OGSA WSRF Basic Profile 1.0 https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-wsr f-basic- profile/ OGSA profile definition 1.0 https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-pro file-tem plate/ Defining the Grid: A Roadmap for the Open Grid Services Architecture https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-roa dmap/ Please have a look. ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Proposed agenda for June 1st call
by Hiro Kishimoto 01 Jun '05

01 Jun '05

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on June 1st Wednesday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT). Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0601 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (if available) Agenda bashing 2) London F2F meeting evaluation (30 min) Please upload your materials to GridForge Mark, Andrew: please send out draft minutes before the call. 3) Telecon Schedule discussion (20 min) Hiro will send out draft telecon schedule until GGF14 before the call. 4) OGSA profile definition document review (60 min) Since there are only a few comment left, we expect that this is the final review of this document. Tom has revised and uploaded the document to the GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-profil… plate/en/7 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB June 6th (Monday) is for OGSA WSRF basic profile and roadmap document final review. ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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