June 2005 - ogsa-wg - lists.ogf.org

RE: Open issues (Re: [ogsa-wg] Roadmap doc v12 uploaded)
by Dave Berry 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Section 2.2, Paragraph 7 (pages 5/6): In the light of the discussion of Section 2.3, should this paragraph use "conformance" rather than "compliance"? Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On > Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto > Sent: 20 June 2005 06:52 > To: Treadwell, Jem; Ogsa-Wg > Subject: Open issues (Re: [ogsa-wg] Roadmap doc v12 uploaded) > > Thanks Jem, > > I've proof read v12 and found several issues. I will send out > two emails; real issues and nits. > > This email contains real issues. > > (a1) page 9 table 3-6 > We should put date for "OGSA information and monitoring architecture > 1.0" if possible. > > (a2) page 14 table 4-10 > (a3) page 16 table 4-14 > (a4) page 17 table 5-2 > Can we add "standard is approaching" mark to "Implemented" and > "WS-Addressing" cell? I have no clue. > > (a5) page 17 table 5-2 > "WS-BaseNotification 1.2" should read "WS-BaseNotification 1.3" > > Thanks, > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto > > Treadwell, Jem wrote: > > Hi, > > > > I've now uploaded v12 of the Roadmap document, with various > minor edits > > and updated specification tables, in line with last > Monday's review. > > > > I've also uploaded the standards spreadsheet, updated with > the changes > > we agreed on Monday, plus citation data from Tom. It was > > difficult/tedious to navigate around all the pages, so I've > also added a > > new Index page which contains links to all the other pages and some > > useful buttons. However, 1) You'll need to enable macros to use the > > buttons (though you shouldn't need them unless you're > editing), and 2) > > I've found that Excel does odd things to the buttons - like resizing > > them, changing the font at will, and inverting the shadows. If it > > happens to you, don't worry about it :0) > > > > I think there's still some detail we could add for the > various specs, > > but I'll leave it as is for now. I promised I'd get this out on > > Wednesday, and I have about 30 seconds left. > > > > The docs are at: http://tinyurl.com/aez86 . > > > > - Jem > > ________________________________ > > > > Jem Treadwell > > Hewlett-Packard Company > > 6000 Irwin Road > > Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 > > Phone: 856-638-6021 > > Fax: 856-638-6190 > > E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com <mailto:Jem.Treadwell@hp.com> > > > > > >

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RE: [ogsa-wg] GGF14 OGSA-WG session plan
by Dave Berry 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

FYI, The OGSA-D sessions will be at the following times on Wednesday 29th: 7.30-9.00 General overview & outreach (?) 9.00-10.30 Data transfer (?) 6.00-7.30 Transactions We are asking the GGF team whether it is possible to swap our first two sessions, as we're not convinced we'll get a good audience for an outreach session at 7.30 a.m. Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On > Behalf Of Hiro Kishimoto > Sent: 18 June 2005 07:55 > To: Ogsa-Wg > Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] GGF14 OGSA-WG session plan > > Hi all, > > Wednesday is already very crowded and we found that there is no > conflict-free slot ;-P > > It seems that the least painful clash is 7:30-9am, security goes > into this early bird slot. > > Revised schedule attached. Also uploaded to the GridForge. > > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF14_se ssion_plan/en/11 > > Thanks, > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto > > Hiro Kishimoto wrote: > > Hi all, > > > > GGF14 session plan is now available online and I've copied > > date/time/room information into OGSA-WG session plan table. > > > > Per Takuya's request, I am now asking GGF office to swap > > information session (#11) and security session (#10). > > I will update this change if GGF office accepts our > > request. > > > > > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF14_se ssion_plan/en/10 > > > > > > If you plan to call-in any of our design team sessions by > > phone, please let me know by Monday (June 20) US time. > > We will set up phone bridge for you. > > > > Thanks, >

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Roadmap doc v12 uploaded
by Treadwell, Jem 20 Jun '05

20 Jun '05

Hi, I've now uploaded v12 of the Roadmap document, with various minor edits and updated specification tables, in line with last Monday's review. I've also uploaded the standards spreadsheet, updated with the changes we agreed on Monday, plus citation data from Tom. It was difficult/tedious to navigate around all the pages, so I've also added a new Index page which contains links to all the other pages and some useful buttons. However, 1) You'll need to enable macros to use the buttons (though you shouldn't need them unless you're editing), and 2) I've found that Excel does odd things to the buttons - like resizing them, changing the font at will, and inverting the shadows. If it happens to you, don't worry about it :0) I think there's still some detail we could add for the various specs, but I'll leave it as is for now. I promised I'd get this out on Wednesday, and I have about 30 seconds left. The docs are at: http://tinyurl.com/aez86 . - Jem ________________________________ Jem Treadwell Hewlett-Packard Company 6000 Irwin Road Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 Phone: 856-638-6021 Fax: 856-638-6190 E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com <mailto:Jem.Treadwell@hp.com>

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OGSA-WG Proposed agenda for June 20th call
by Hiro Kishimoto 18 Jun '05

18 Jun '05

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on June 20th Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT). The upcoming call is for cross-WG discussion with CDDLM-WG and three documents (hopefully) final review. The dial-in number for Monday; Free: +1-866-639-4741 Toll: +1-574-935-6703 PIN: 8980700 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0620 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (if available) Agenda bashing 2) GGF13 session schedule update (10 min) OGSA session schedule https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF14_session_plan/en… GGF on-line schedule page (not 100% up-to-date) http://tinyurl.com/ext3m 3) CDDLM-WG cross discussion (60 min) The intent of the meeting is to familiarize OGSA with CDDLM-WG's progress, to get OGSA-WG's feedback, and agree on the next steps. Most importantly to plan our meeting at GGF with the OGSA-EMS architecture team. (OGSA-WG #4 "EMS architecture" session, June 28 (Tues), 2:30-4pm at Wellington 1) Dejan, CDDLM-WG co-chair, comes up with a brief presentation on where CDDLM-WG are, where they are going, etc. and carrying it over to GGF14. 4) Three documents final review (40 min) OGSA roadmap 1.0 Jem has uploaded the revised version to the GridForge. - http://tinyurl.com/aez86 OGSA profile definition 1.0 Andreas will upload the revised version shortly. OGSA basic profile 1.0 Tom will upload the revised version shortly. 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB June 22th (Wed) GGF14 preparation June 27-30 GGF14 ---- Hiro Kishimoto -- Hiro Kishimoto

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GGF14 OGSA-WG session plan
by Hiro Kishimoto 18 Jun '05

18 Jun '05

Hi all, GGF14 session plan is now available online and I've copied date/time/room information into OGSA-WG session plan table. Per Takuya's request, I am now asking GGF office to swap information session (#11) and security session (#10). I will update this change if GGF office accepts our request. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/GGF14_session_plan/en… If you plan to call-in any of our design team sessions by phone, please let me know by Monday (June 20) US time. We will set up phone bridge for you. Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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OGSA Naming WG status report
by Hiro Kishimoto 17 Jun '05

17 Jun '05

Status report: Progress on both the charter and WSNR (WS Naming resolution). RNS moved back to GFS until through document publication, i.e., after public comment Resolution modification to support base profile use case done and discussed Open issue remains "names" - which are just a string. Andrew -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Any additions to "example projects" section in OGSA Roadmap?
by Treadwell, Jem 16 Jun '05

16 Jun '05

Hi, Section 8 of the OGSA Roadmap document describes some open-source projects that are working with OGSA concepts and specifications, and by doing so are contributing to the OGSA effort. The current text of the section is below. If anyone would like to add a few lines about any other project, please pass them on to me before the end of this week. We plan to do final review of the document on Monday next week, so please don't delay if you want to get something to me. Please keep your submission fairly short and in line with the style of what you see below, and be specific about what is being implemented. Also note that although the section is currently entitled "Open-Source Software Projects" commercial projects or other non-open-source projects can be included, provided they fit the criteria of contributing to the development of OGSA. We'll change the section heading if appropriate. Thanks! - Jem Open-Source Software Projects OGSA is expected to be implemented by multiple open-source software (OSS) projects and commercial software vendors. OSS projects such as Globus, the Business Grid Computing Project, the NextGrid Project, the NAREGI Project, University of Virginia Global Bio Grid, UK e-Science, and others will contribute. The Globus Toolkit (Globus) is one example of a major OSS grid project. The Globus Alliance is contributing to the development of OGSA by supporting the design and implementation of open-source software that implements specifications detailed in OGSA Profiles, and the participation of the implementers of that software in relevant standards processes. With its current version, GT4, based on early implementations of WSRF and WS-Notification and including implementations of all relevant security standards, Globus provides a comprehensive software infrastructure that allows developers and users to work with OGSA concepts now. Additional standards will be incorporated into future versions of the toolkit as they evolve. The Globus Consortium is a group of companies with a common interest in promoting the development and adoption of the Globus Toolkit for commercial use. Consortium participants also have a strong interest in standards in general, and in OGSA in particular. The team at the University of Virginia (UVA) is committed to implementing several pieces of the OGSA Roadmap described here. Specifically, UVA will implement open versions of ByteIO, BES, RNS, and the WS-Naming specifications. The Business Grid Computing Project (BG) is based on the OGSA Architecture specification. It is developing several services using specifications described in this Roadmap. In particular, BG will make available as open source software implementations of the Application Contents Service, JSDL, and WS-Agreement. BG intends to use the OGSA WSRF Basic Profile 1.0. The National Research Grid Initiative (NAREGI) is a Japanese national e-science grid project aiming at developing a computational infrastructure for supporting scientific and engineering research. One of the primary goals of the NAREGI Project is to contribute to the GGF standardization activities. NAREGI has been interested in, participated in, and, where possible, given feedback to numerous GGF working groups and research groups. Amongst the various groups, NAREGI has recently placed high emphasis on the OGSA-WG activities, being the first project or group to implement the EMS architecture described in the OGSA Architecture v1.0 specification, in its alpha incarnation of the software stack that was released in 1Q 2005. Future plans will have NAREGI contribute to and provide reference implementations for Basic Execution Services (BES), Resource Selection Services (RSS), and Application Contents Service (ACS). ________________________________ Jem Treadwell Hewlett-Packard Company 6000 Irwin Road Mount Laurel, NJ 08054 Phone: 856-638-6021 Fax: 856-638-6190 E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com <mailto:Jem.Treadwell@hp.com>

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OGSA BES status report
by Hiro Kishimoto 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

OGSA-BES status F2F held in London end-of-May. First draft strawman GGF document underway and on Gridforge, basic interfaces defined. Decisions we are a service - including metadata/attribute/resource properties we are not going to use WS-Agreement Metamodel for attributes under discussion. Should we use CIM? Some other, e.g., Condor terms? Issue: how much "management" should go into container interface? -- Hiro Kishimoto

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RM teleconference minutes -- June 14, 2005
by Fred Maciel 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Hi, Here are the minutes. Regards, Fred Maciel.

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OGSA-D telcon agenda for June 22nd - Data transfer, GGF preparation
by Dave Berry 15 Jun '05

15 Jun '05

Dear all, Next week's telcon will be on Wednesday (22nd June), at the usual time of 8:00am PDT / 11:00am EDT / 4:00pm BST / 5:00pm CEST. PIN for this call: 632 065 UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 Here is a provisional agenda for next week. 1) Early discussion (5 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval (http://tinyurl.com/cb5go) Agenda bashing 2) Action report (5 min) - Allen to ask Julie to swap the 7:30 and 9:00 sessions at GGF. - Allen and Dave to prepare talks for review at next week's telcon. - Allen and Dave to mail co-chairs of other groups once the revised schedule is confirmed. - Dave to write short report for OGSA WG - Allen to attend OGSA WG call - Stephen to update replication use case - Dave to write to LSG-RG about security - Ann will organise the security notes we've taken so far into a coherent memo that we can take to the security working groups. - Dave will discuss security with the NeSC security people. - Dave will approach the OGSA WG security design team about a joint meeting. - Dave to revamp section 3 of the architecture document. 3) GGF preparation (25 min) - GGF session plan - Other sessions: LSG-RG, OGSA, Security, Data area, other data WGs,... - Review of draft slides 4) Data transfer (20 min) 5) Wrap up (5 min) AOB DONM Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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