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Notes from ByteIO Telcon
by Hiro Kishimoto 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

Neil's email bounced. ---- Hiro Kishimoto From: "neil p chue hong" <N.ChueHong(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk> To: "'ogsa-wg'" <ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org> Subject: Notes from ByteIO Telcon Date: Wed, 13 Apr 2005 10:17:31 +0100 These are the notes from the telcon postponed from last week. Minutes from the ByteIO Telcon on 12/4/05 ----------------------------------------- Attending: Mark Morgan (MM) Neil Chue Hong (NCH) Dave Berry (DB) Agenda - Charter Discussion - Telcon times - Kicking off technical discussion Date of next Telcon: 19/4/05 at 14:00 UTC (09:00 CDT / 10:00 EDT / 15:00 BST / 16:00 CEST) *** Note change in time *** Charter Discussion ------------------ The co-chairs and Dave Berry had put out the charter for comment, separately the OGSA-WG solicited comments on the ByteIO charter. In particular, one set of comments from Olegario Hernandez were addressed: - concern over whether the writers have properly considered the writing operations in scope (this stemmed from confusion within the initial version of scope as compared with the focus) - the scope does not clearly say what is included We discussed the charter, reworded the purpose, and tightened the scope to make it consistent. We feel we have now given adequate time for comment, received comments and addressed them where necessary. AGREED to submit revised charter, DB has done this. Telcon ------ Agreed to change telcon time to an hour earlier, to avoid clash with DAIS WG telcons. The new time is Tuesdays at 14:00 UTC / 09:00 CDT / 15:00 BST, starting from next week. [NCH] will advertise new time and distribute minutes [DB] will book a new telcon slot Starting Tech ------------- NCH circulated a paper on experiments done in Edinburgh comparing SOAP Base64, SwA and DIME, and sockets. Mark had also done some experiments, which confirm these results. The problem with using SwA is that in the next Microsoft WSE 3.0 release, it is likely that DIME will go out and MTOM will go in. So we lose compatibility in this release. We can also disregard raw sockets as a default as it's just not going to play nice with any web services normal setup. NCH will check on the progress of MTOM implementations in Java. There appear to be some commits into Apache on MTOM in JAXRPC 2.0 / JAXB. WebDAV can be wrapped by a simple web service, this might be a possibility, MM will look into this in more detail. Agenda for next week -------------------- Continue technical discussion Start discussing use cases - binary file - DAIS query - sensor [MM] Write a paragraph or two describing a binary file use case. [NCH] Send mail to Mario Antonioletti at DAIS to procure an existing use case from DAIS to contribute. [DB] Send mail to NEC to see if they can provide a sensor use case -- << NOTE ROOM CHANGE, OTHER DETAILS REMAIN CONSTANT >> Neil P Chue Hong | T: [+44] (0)131 650 5957 Project Manager, EPCC | F: [+44] (0)131 650 6555 Rm 2409, JCMB, Mayfield Rd. | E: N.ChueHong(a)epcc.ed.ac.uk Edinburgh, EH9 3JZ, UK | W: http://www.epcc.ed.ac.uk "A film is like a battleground. It's love, hate, action, violence, death - in a word, emotion." - Sam Fuller

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1369] Section 8.1.6 additional MESSAGE and INSTANCE reqts
by Sourceforge Tracker Monitor 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1369 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 15:45:47 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1369&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1369&group_id…) Summary: Section 8.1.6 additional MESSAGE and INSTANCE reqts Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1369 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 15:45:47 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 15:45:47 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: Need testable MESSAGE and INSTANCE normative reqts View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1368] Section 8.1.6 MLS needs description
by Sourceforge Tracker Monitor 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1368 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 15:44:12 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1368&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1368&group_id…) Summary: Section 8.1.6 MLS needs description Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1368 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 15:44:12 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 15:44:12 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: Need good decription of MLS issue View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1367] Appendix A KeyInfoElement; why not ds:KeyInfoElement
by Sourceforge Tracker Monitor 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1367 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 15:37:49 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1367&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1367&group_id…) Summary: Appendix A KeyInfoElement; why not ds:KeyInfoElement Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1367 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 15:37:49 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 15:37:49 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: Why create a new element and not use the digsig element for key info View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1365] section 6.1 BaseNotification refers to ServiceGroup
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13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1365 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 15:12:12 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1365&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1365&group_id…) Summary: section 6.1 BaseNotification refers to ServiceGroup Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1365 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 15:12:12 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 15:12:12 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: description is wrong View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1364] Remove section 5.3 Destroy pending notification
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13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1364 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 15:10:27 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1364&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1364&group_id…) Summary: Remove section 5.3 Destroy pending notification Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1364 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 15:10:27 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 15:10:27 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: no normative spec for defining that View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1363] Section 5.2 Should we have Resource Destruction notification
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13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1363 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 15:08:55 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1363&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1363&group_id…) Summary: Section 5.2 Should we have Resource Destruction notification Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1363 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 15:08:55 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 15:08:55 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: Should the BP place ANY reqts on destroy notification View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1362] Remove section 3.1.2 Policy statement
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13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1362 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 14:44:48 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1362&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1362&group_id…) Summary: Remove section 3.1.2 Policy statement Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1362 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 14:44:48 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 14:44:48 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: Does not apply anymore. View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1361] section 1.3 notational conventions need to be a ref to WS-I BP 1.1
by Sourceforge Tracker Monitor 13 Apr '05

13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1361 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 14:36:09 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1361&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1361&group_id…) Summary: section 1.3 notational conventions need to be a ref to WS-I BP 1.1 Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1361 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 14:36:09 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 14:36:09 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: reduce and ref WS-I BP 1.1 View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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[ogsa-wg | Basic Profile - 1360] Section 1.1 BaseFault and BaseNotification Description
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13 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1360 Submitted by: Tom Maguire Submitted date: 2005-04-13 14:34:24 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1360&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=780&aid=1360&group_id…) Summary: Section 1.1 BaseFault and BaseNotification Description Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Basic Profile Artifact ID: 1360 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: - Last Modified By: Tom Maguire Last Modified: 2005-04-13 14:34:24 Submitted By: Tom Maguire Submit Date: 2005-04-13 14:34:24 Assigned To: &lt;None&gt; File(s): <None> Description: Add descriptive text on BaseFaults and Notificaitons regarding issues addressed. View the Basic Profile : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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