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[ogsa-wg | Roadmap - 1372] "OGSA Roadmap" or "OGSA Directions"?
by Sourceforge Tracker Monitor 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

A new artifact has been added: 1372 Submitted by: Hiro Kishimoto Submitted date: 2005-04-20 20:54:25 Respond by visiting: https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=789&aid=1372&group_id… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/?func=detail&atid=789&aid=1372&group_id…) Summary: "OGSA Roadmap" or "OGSA Directions"? Project: Open Grid Services Architecture Tracker: Roadmap Artifact ID: 1372 Category: <None> Group: <None> Status: Open Priority: 3 Last Modified By: Hiro Kishimoto Last Modified: 2005-04-20 20:54:25 Submitted By: Hiro Kishimoto Submit Date: 2005-04-20 20:54:25 Assigned To: Hiro Kishimoto File(s): <None> Description: Mark Linesch: Is this an "OGSA Roadmap" or is this "OGSA Directions". I am thinking there might be confusion between the term roadmap utilized here versus what the GFSG has committed to produce "GGF Standards Roadmap". View the Roadmap : https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=… (https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?func=browse&group_id=42&atid=…)

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OGSA-BES first teleconference
by Andrew Grimshaw 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

All, The first BES teleconference is scheduled for this Thursday, April 21,(US) at 10 AM eastern. The dial in number (thanks IBM) is: Free: +1-800-664-6895 Toll: +1-719-955-1126 passcode: 285178 The agenda is: Agenda bashing Charter finalization: Scope issues: 1) Legacy only or include "service instantiation" 2) Definition of "job" interface - or leave it to another WG Discussion of future telecon's, e.g., End first agenda Issues for discussion in the following telecon's 1) Agreement or not agreement 2) WSRF or WSRF-neutral 3) Metadata/attributes of containers 4) Interface of the service container 5) Interactions with JSDL - terms and semantics of terms 6) I/O specifications and JSDL terms 7) Service containers as manageable entities Please send us your thoughts on other topics. Andrew Grimshaw Darren Pulsipher Steven Newhouse

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OGSA-ByteIO WG and OGSA-data WG are formally approved
by Hiro Kishimoto 20 Apr '05

20 Apr '05

Congratulations! GFSG has formally approved OGSA-ByteIO WG and OGSA-data WG. Data Area Directors, Malcolm and David, help WG co-chairs to set-up their mailing lists and GridForge project pages shortly. I'd like to express our appreciation for your endeavor to make this happen and let's collaborate closer and drive OGSA development forward. ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Proposed agenda for April 20th call
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on April 20th Wednesday from 5pm to 7pm (CDT). Dial-in numbers for Wednesday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0420 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (April 18th) https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20050418 Agenda bashing 2) OGSA May F2F meeting update (if any) 3) OGSA Basic Profile document status (20 min) Tom will report on completion of BP development. Thank you very much BP team for your great efforts. 4) OGSA roadmap document review (60 min) New draft will be available before the call. 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB April 25 (5-7pm CDT) Profile definition discussion April 27 (5-7pm CDT) Roadmap discussion May 2 (5-7pm CDT) <TBD> May 4 (5-7pm CDT) <TBD> See telecon schedule until May F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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Data: proposed agenda for Wednesday 20th April
by Dave Berry 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Dear all, Here is a proposed agenda for the data telcon on Wednesday April 20th, which will be at the usual time of 7.30am PDT / 10.30am EDT / 3.30pm BST / 4.30pm CEST UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 PIN Number: 632 065 1) Early discussion (5 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval (attached) - http://tinyurl.com/8wsn5 Agenda bashing 2) Action report (5 min) - Allen to discuss replication & InfoD with Cecille. - Dave to find consensus on meeting date. - Dave to mail contributors re common section structure. - Dave to add version number to header and accept current changes. - Dave to ask NextGrid/InfoD about transfer to non-service endpoints. 3) F2F planning (10 min) - Date: May 26th. Place: London. - Initial discussion of agenda. 4) Technical content (25 min) - Update from contributors - Discussion of issues arising 5) Architecture document structure (10 min) Comments on the structure of the architecture document. 6) Wrap up (5 min) AOB DONM Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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RE: OGSA May F2F meeting venue
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Hi all, The following is the May F2F information by Steve McGough. I got his email before the Monday call but overlooked. Sorry Steve. > The actual room at Imperial is in flux at the moment as we are having > renevation work done to our new office space. Once I've got an exact > room I shall provide full information on it and how to get there. I've > attached the pdf I sent out for the JSDL f2f to give you an idea of what > to expect. > > As for accomodation: > Hotels can be booked through the university conference office > http://www.imperialcollege-conferencelink.com/ > > They list hotels by walking distance from the campus and quality. They > apparently arrange discount on prices. > > To get to the list of hotels click the South Kensington link at the top > and then select Hotel Directory. > > The Campus is South Kensington. I'm sure you can figure out the other > options. Thanks, ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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CFP: NYC WISE'05 Industry Track
by Gagnon, Stephane 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

C A L L F O R P A P E R S ===================================================================== WISE 2005 Industry Track http://elab.njit.edu/wise 6th International Conference on Web Information Systems Engineering November 20-22 2005, New York City, New York http://www.cs.txstate.edu/wise05 ===================================================================== Sponsored by: - Telcordia - IBM - NJIT Supported by: - Object Management Group (OMG) - Integration Consotrium (IC) --------------------------------------------------------------------- The goals of the WISE 2005 Industry Program are to foster exchanges between practitioners and the academics, to promote novel solutions to today's business challenges, to provide practitioners in the field an early opportunity to evaluate leading-edge research, and to identify new issues and directions for future research and development work. We invite submissions on all topics related to web engineering including technologies, methodologies, and applications. Papers can take the form of detailed case studies, technical white papers, new methodologies, new standard specifications, benchmarking models, or any other contributions demonstrating innovative web engineering technologies, methods, and applications. Topics of particular interest include but are not limited to those identified in the conference CFP, as well as those listed below: 1. Technologies: a. Development of new web services standards b. Use of business process automation technologies c. Use of semantic web and grid computing d. Innovative solutions for performance optimization e. Benchmarking of leading runtime environments 2. Methodologies: a. Web engineering with a Model Driven Architecture b. Requirements engineering for web applications c. Software design reusing legacy systems and data d. Quality focus and use of Test Driven Development e. Benchmarking of leading web engineering tools 3. Applications: a. Case studies of major web engineering projects b. Implementation of a Service Oriented Architecture c. Outsourcing and use of Business Services Networks d. Analysis of industry-specific trends and challenges e. Benchmarking models in selecting web IT vendors ---------- Deadlines: ---------- Abstracts due June 10, 2005 Papers due June 17, 2005 Decision notification Aug. 12, 2005 Camera-ready copies due Sept. 16, 2005 ------------------------- Guidelines and Submission: -------------------------- All industrial papers will be peer-reviewed and published in the regular conference proceedings. For easy identification, industrial papers should have as their title "Industry Track: rest of title". Please follow the guidelines of Lecture Notes in Computer Science (LNCS) published by Springer: http://www.springeronline.com/sgw/cda/frontpage/ 0,11855,5-164-2-72376-0,00.html. Please submit your paper online in PDF format: http://elab.njit.edu/wisesubmit For more information, please contact the Industrial Program Chair. ------------------------- Industrial Program Chair: ------------------------- Jen-Yao Chung, IBM T. J. Watson Research (jychung(a)us.ibm.com) ------------------------------- Industrial Program Vice Chairs: ------------------------------- Stephane Gagnon, NJIT (gagnon(a)njit.edu) Shu-Ping Chang, IBM Research (spchang(a)us.ibm.com) ------------------ Program Committee: ------------------ TBA

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draft-ogsa-profile-template-v1.5 document updated for review
by Tom Maguire 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

http://forge.gridforum.org/ projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-profile-template/en/4 New rev of doc addresses AIs from 4/6 telecon. Please review and comment. Tom Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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draft-ogsa-profile-template-v1.5 (current comments and what I believe are the resolutions)
by Tom Maguire 19 Apr '05

19 Apr '05

Ian Foster: Is this rewording correct? I wasn’t sure of the meaning: It seemed to say that no Profile could ever make reference to an extension, which seemed unnecessarily restrictive, and also is contradicted by the next paragraph. <trm>Section deleted per AI to remove copyrighted material</trm> Ian Foster: This is unclear to me. What are “other profiles”? <trm>Section deleted per AI to remove copyrighted material</trm> Ian Foster: I’m not sure what this is saying. Of course it’s true, but how does this relate to profile conformance? <trm>Section deleted per AI to remove copyrighted material</trm> Dave Snelling: This definition is critical as it distinguishes profile types below. Discuss on a call. <trm>Discussed ad-nauseaum and agreed to</trm> Dave Snelling: It has been suggested that we don't need this category. Discuss on a call. <trm>Discussed ad-nauseaum and agreed to</trm> Tom Maguire: Needs work The paragraph in question: In some cases, specifications allow multiple interpretations of aspects of the specification. Where this variability in interpretation is likely to effect interoperability, the profile should restrict the interpretation. The nature of these restrictions may range from a simple clarification of meaning in a specification to the inclusion of "mini" specifications for missing content in the referenced specification. Note that if such a "mini" specification becomes significant in size or relevance outside the given profile, it should be spun out as a separate normative specification and referenced externally. <trm>We are in practice doing this for KeyInfo exchange in Basic Profile. The question remains do we need to provide additional guidance on when to spin-off</trm> Dave Snelling: The names of these profile types follow the GGF document type and process models. We could use just two types, informational and normative, and allow the GGF process only to distinguish the later two. We would still need our own guide-lines, however. There has also been a suggestion for other names. Discuss on a call. <trm>Discussed ad-nauseaum and agreed to</trm> Dave Snelling: There is concern that this non-normative form of profile <informational> may undervalue the others. Discuss on a call. <trm>Discussed ad-nauseaum and agreed to</trm> Dave Snelling: There was some surprise that there were no restrictions on either the status value or the adoption value. Discuss on a call. <trm>Discussed ad-nauseaum and agreed to</trm> Dave Snelling: Can other WGs create OGSA Profiles? <trm>Other WGs can create OGSA profiles but they must be approved by the OGSA WG. Have we clarified this process?</trm> Dave Snelling: As interoperable implies at least two implementations, it would exclude key specifications that the OGSA WG may want to encourage implementers to address. Do we need another category or a refined definition of interoperable? Discuss on a call. <trm>Discussed. I believe we have agreed to the set of profile types defined in the document.</trm> Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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Teleconference minutes - 18 April 2005
by Andreas Savva 18 Apr '05

18 Apr '05

Minutes attached. Gridforge https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/minutes-20050418/en/1 OGSA Teleconference - 18 April 2005 =================================== * Participants Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Fred Maciel (Hitachi) Tom Maguire (IBM) Mark Morgan (UVa) Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) Jem Treadwell (HP) Jay Unger (IBM) Apologies: Dave Snelling Minutes: Andreas Savva * April 11 & 13 approved with no changes - Is there a complete schedule of all OGSA teleconferences? No, just for the regular calls (Mon, Wed). Hiro will look into providing a more complete schedule. - OGSA BES teleconference time, day and logistics? There was an announcement on the time/day on the ogsa-wg list by Andrew on March 31. - Probably the first call will be this week. Andrew is expected to send out an email announcing it. Assume a duration of one hour for now. - Tom to offer his teleconference number for the BES call. (Done) * May F2F update - Why is there a gap between the first part of the F2F and the Data? - EGEE meeting conflict. There was an announcement by Dave B on the list. - The meeting room at IC is not fixed yet. OGSA F2F typically have around 15 people attending so a largish room is probably needed. (The Access Grid room maybe too small.) - Hotels nearby and information about IC? - Nothing about arranging a group booking at the moment. - The main University site is http://www.ic.ac.uk and includes information on how to get to the South Kensington campus. - From Heathrow the Heathrow Express going to Paddington (and then the underground), or the Piccadilly line are convenient. - The nearest underground station is South Kensington. - Andreas will forward some information he has about Hotels from the November JSDL F2F. (Done) * Profile Template - Reviewed minutes April 6; the last review of this document. - There are not a lot of issues open on this document. - There is no updated version yet. Tom will do a minor revision and post a new version on gridforge. - Requesting people to review this document. It should be fairly easy to move it forward. [There is a tracker 'Profile template' already created for this document.] * EMS area BES represents a small subset of the EM area. What is the next step and how is the overall EM area discussion being addressed? Can Ravi commit time to lead the discussion? - Jay is trying to get people from within IBM engaged in this effort. - There is some interest in another portion of EM (CGS) from people in Germany. - Arrange time at the F2F to discuss how to move forward. [EM topic is already on the agenda.] * Next call - Basic profile and Roadmap document review

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