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New Legal Briefs: Friday's Hearing Heats Up
by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

June 17, 2001 Please Spread the Word Dear Colleagues, Just a quick note, as we race toward Friday's New York Supreme Court hearing in the Drug War on Trial case, to let you know that: - Two new legal briefs are now linked from page one: http://www.narconews.com/ (Joint memorandum by Narco News Bulletin and I, and my own sworn affidavit about the latest court Exhibit, "The Mexico Papers" with lots of interesting drug war facts) - Tomorrow we shall post the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) amicus brief in support of Narco News' motion to dismiss the Banamex lawsuit. - At press time, we have heard of another amicus (friend-of-the-court) brief being filed on our behalf, and as soon as we receive it, we will post and announce it. Apologies for being so brief about the briefs. For a pro se defendant, this is worse than cramming for the bar exam. from somewhere else in a country called América, Al Giordano Publisher-on-leave, full-time defendant The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ narconews(a)hotmail.com HEARING ON ORAL ARGUMENTS NEW YORK STATE SUPREME COURT FRIDAY, JULY 20, 2001 9:30 A.M. 71 THOMAS STREET MANHATTAN ROOM 205 JUSTICE PAULA OMANSKY, PRESIDING HEARING IS OPEN TO THE PUBLIC AND PRESS _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ************************************************************************** Subscribe to Freematt's Alerts: Pro-Individual Rights Issues Send a blank message to: freematt(a)coil.com with the words subscribe FA on the subject line. List is private and moderated (7-30 messages per week) Matthew Gaylor, (614) 313-5722 ICQ: 106212065 Archived at http://groups.yahoo.com/group/fa/ **************************************************************************

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EFF legal brief defends Narco News
by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

July 17, 2001 Please Distribute Widely Dear Colleagues, The Narco Newsroom is now in New York City preparing for our hearing at the New York State Supreme Court on Friday, July 20th, 9:30 a.m. in the Drug War on Trial case. Please attend Friday's hearing at the Courthouse at 71 Thomas Street, Manhattan, New York (three blocks east of Foley Square), court room 205, Justice Paula Omansky presiding. We are also very grateful and pleased to announce that the Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) has filed an amicus brief in support of our motion to dismiss the Banamex lawsuit against the free Internet speech of Narco News. Enclosed, please find a copy of EFF's press release of today. Please pass it along to journalists and freedom fighters everywhere, especially in the New York metropolitan area, and invite them to attend Friday's hearing. Immediately after Friday's hearing, in front of the Courthouse, we will hold a press conference. Shortly, we will be posting the latest round of legal briefs on Narco News. See you Friday, >From somewhere else in a country called América, Al Giordano Publisher-on-leave, fulltime defendant The Narco News Bulletin http://www.narconews.com/ narconews(a)hotmail.com --- Enc: EFF Press Release Available online at: http://www.eff.org/Censorship/SLAPP/Forum_shopping/20010712_eff_narcon et_pr.html Electronic Frontier Foundation Media Release Advisory Bank Pres Drags Journalist into NY Court Over Drug Expose Electronic Frontier Foundation Urges U.S. Court to Respect Mexican Rulings For Immediate Release: July 12, 2001 Contact: Cindy Cohn, EFF Legal Dir., cindy(a)eff.org, +1 415 436 9333 x108 Will Doherty, EFF Online Activist / Media Relations, wild(a)eff.org, +1 415 436 9333 x111 New York - The Electronic Frontier Foundation (EFF) today urged a New York state court to respect Mexican court rulings that have disallowed lawsuits against independent journalist Al Giordano for publishing allegations of drug trafficking by Banco Nacional de Mexico President Roberto Hernandez Ramirez. EFF seeks to protect the First Amendment rights of online, independent journalists against the abusive "shopping" by large, powerful corporations for favorable jurisdictions. The Mexican bank brought the case against a Mexican-based website, produced solely by Giordano, the Narco News Bulletin: http://www.narconews.com/. "The EFF is concerned that the bank resorted to New York courts to try to shut down this website because it could not do so in Mexican courts," said Cindy Cohn, Legal Director for the EFF. "This kind of forum shopping threatens to shut down one of the greatest benefits of the Internet -- giving a voice to independent, Internet-based journalists. Faced with having to defend themselves in far-flung jurisdictions, many independent journalists will simply choose not to publish on the Internet." The case arises from allegations published on the the Narco News Bulletin website that the bank president was involved in illegal activities in Mexico. The EFF filed an amicus brief urging the New York court to rule that it was improper for the bank to force Mr. Giordano into New York state court for the statements posted on the website. The hearing on the case is set for July 20, 2001. Since April 18, 2000, Al Giordano has produced the Narco News Bulletin, an online newspaper devoted to spirited investigative journalism on the US-Latin America drug trade. Articles posted on the Narco News Bulletin website have discussed allegations by others that Roberto Hernandez Ramirez, the president of the Banco Nacional de Mexico, is involved in drug trafficking. Some of these stories were reprinted articles from the Mexican newspaper Por Esto!, published in Mexico by Mario Renato Menendez. After failing three times to successfully sue Menendez in Mexico over the allegations, Banco Nacional de Mexico now seeks to force Menendez and Giordano to defend themselves in New York state court against the same basic claims. The New York case groups together the allegations against the Mexican-based website, hosted in Maryland, with statements made by Menendez and Giordano in New York City on a radio broadcast and at a Columbia University Law School conference. The EFF amicus brief asked the Court to adopt one of two courses of action. First, in order to deter abusive forum shopping, the EFF asked the court to dismiss the case since Mexican law governs the dispute. Alternatively, since Narconews.com mainly republished investigative work done by others, the EFF asked the New York court to apply a distinct legal standard for libel claims related to republished statements. The legal standard requires that a republisher had, or should have had substantial reasons to question the accuracy of the articles. EFF believes that this higher liability standard for republishing on the Internet is necessary to encourage the growth of Internet journalism. About EFF: The Electronic Frontier Foundation is the leading civil liberties organization working to protect rights in the digital world. Founded in 1990, EFF actively encourages and challenges industry and government to support free expression, privacy, and openness in the information society. EFF is a member-supported organization and maintains one of the most linked-to Web sites in the world: http://www.eff.org/ _________________________________________________________________________ Get Your Private, Free E-mail from MSN Hotmail at http://www.hotmail.com. ________________________________________________________________________ ________________________________________________________________________

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by Tim May 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> (Seriously, I say you should GET THE FUCK out of this law school you > are now in. Too many damned lawyers as it is. If you really think, as > you claimed a few weeks ago, that you can study law and then somehow > affect the law/programming worlds, pace the various legal cases of > recent years, then you're delusional. Vastly greater changes are > possible with technology.) "The only reason to be a lawyer is so that nobody can fuck with you". Approx. quote from "Unintended Consequences". Mark

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Re: Scenes from the Supreme Court protests today
by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>Frankly, I think much of Al Gores desperation comes from his Tim, --- ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ----! !---- ----! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! ! -- ! ! ! ! ! / ! ! ! / ! ! !/ / ! / ! / ! / ! /

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CPM and other advertising terms
by "Sue Mathis - suzanna27"＠artlover.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

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How do I increase my screen resolution?
by 3diaz23＠msn.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

What can I do to increase my computers resolution. I want to increase it to 800x600 SVGA display configuration. 3diaz23(a)msn.com ANSWERS:

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by Chris 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

2011 10:45:13 -0400 ________________________________ Once law enforcement is effective enough to prevent the average criminal from having access to firearms, then the law-abiding population can be compelled to disarm. That day is coming through US force as "Operation Gun Runner" from the ATF allowed Mexican drug cartel straw purchasers to come in, purchase 5 or so AK-47 rifles, and when the gun store owner had suspicions about not selling it - the ATF told the owner to "let the guns walk" so the group could track down the weapons. Unfortunately, those weapons were used to kill a DEA agent in Mexico and a Border Patrol agent who was only armed with bean bag rounds in his shotgun then died trying to cycle out those rounds to put in live rounds. Also with al-CIAda patsy Adam Gahdan inaccurately reporting in his latest video to other jihadists about purchasing "automatic weapons" from gun shows, I believe the ball is rolling for everyone in the United States to be disarmed through force by new legislation to outlaw weapons. I do not think the average gun owner would ever disarm because the gun culture in our country is so deep and passionate in any freedom loving citizen's blood. The Second Amendment, in my opinion and most gun owners agree with, was put in the Bill of Rights for the average citizen to remove tyrants if the process of democracy does not work. At present, the average criminal in my area does not have firearms, and so I do not own one. Gun crime is on the increase, however, so this situation may change. Better get one before it's too late :-) -- --C "The dumber people think you are, the more surprised they're going to be when you kill them." - Sir William Clayton

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by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

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Re: FC: President Bush says military tribunals will try civilian cases
by PRGormley＠aol.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

It's simple, maybe unethical and way off the moral high ground we claim to be staking out but effective and legal under the US Constitution. Make sure you check for any text that says these protections apply to non-citizens. While I am unqualified to comment on the national security aspect of these issues, there certainly are security issues presented by them. I quote the US Constitution, 14th Amendment: Amendment XIV Section 1. All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws. Under this reading, the rights accorded under our federal constitution are not extended beyond US Citizens without regard to location of those citizens. I read this to require treatment by the US of US citizens abroad the same as in the US. - Paul Gormley criminal defense attorney in Massachusetts ---

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06 Jul '18

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