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Moving Target: Warning
by Harry Shapiro 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

I have thought that it is a losing strategy to debate the wire tap chip on purely tech terms as I feel the NSA would have more technology up their sleve, changing the MO as we object to specific points and probally making themselves SEEM responsive to the gov/congress/Admin. First we had 40 bit key halves then we got 80-bit XORed and now: CAPSTONE: THE NEXT GENERATION, with DSS, etc... We need to make broad specturm attacks on both spef. technical points and social points. We need to say/talk to How this country was founded. We did to say Ok, NSA/FBI is right and the world has changed. But it will keep on changing... like our Founders, we need to plot a course that will hold true not for a few years but for the next two hundred. This is stuff that shouldn't be debated in private by NSA and Bill C. /harry -- Harry Shapiro habs(a)panix.com List Administrator of the Extropy Institute Mailing List Private Communication for the Extropian Community since 1991

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AT&T replacement
by George A. Gleason 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

In case it wasn't clear, the offer is to replace any AT&T hardware *with equivalent or better competing technology* for 25% off. -gg

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AT&T replacement offer
by George A. Gleason 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

Re the AT&T boycott, I'm going to put my labor where my mouth is, and offer: Replacement of any AT&T business phone system or consumer telephone product, at a discount of 25% off normal retail (essentially a nonprofit rate). On business phone systems, this includes all AT&T key systems (Merlin, Spirit, Partner, etc) and PBX (system 75 and up); and includes one year's service contract. For smaller systems, we'll install anywhere from Santa Cruz to Mendocino; for larger ones, anywhere in California depending on the job; and we'll ship user-intallable ones anywhere you like. (User-installable systems typically involve 32 or fewer phones.) For each AT&T system we remove, we send a letter to AT&T explaining why. Then when we gather up enough of them to make a decent sized pile, do some kind of publicity event with them (any suggestions?). (Or maybe simply sell the old AT&T stuff to a secondary market dealer and donate the proceeds to an appropriate organisation?) -george gleason, Integrated Signal / Switched Networks, 510-644.8085 gg(a)well.sf.ca.us

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Re: WIRETAP: boycotts
by George A. Gleason 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

Keep up the pressure: how about mailing to all law firms in the Bay Area to warn them not to buy AT&T phone systems since they might be getting Big Brother in the Box along with, if not now, then in some future upgrade innocently installed by a field tech. -gg

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Re: Info on Mykotronx
by George A. Gleason 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

Re MycoToxin: contact the Covert Action Information Bulletin and ask if they have anything on anyone named in connection with MycoToxin. Do the same with other think-tanks that deal in defense-related issues, for example the Center for National Security Studies or some such. TRW is a scary thought indeed; and of course these people don't ever cut their ties for good... consider that TRW is a huge NSA partner and also maintains the Great Big Database of all our credit records & buying habits. Bad combinations, getting worse by the minute. -gg

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Re: CLIP: Legal Aspects
by George A. Gleason 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

Illegal taps: and keep in mind "investigative" taps used to gather deep background information... by the time that information gets to a useable form, its origin is so far obscured as to be impossible to prove... and most importantly, keep in mind the simple matter of political and economic intelligence. The British GCHQ routinely tapped trade unions; NSA went after the civil rights movement, history is full of cases like this. If you don't know COINTELPRO, look it up and get scared. The main thing here is not whether they can use evidence against you in court, but whether they can gather extracurricular info and use it to fuck up careers, runs for elected office, campaigns on public issues, labor negotiations, and all kinds of other things which we expect to be able to do freely in a nominal democracy. Clinton has expressed a commitment to civil rights causes, so I don't worryu about his administration pullling another WAtergate or COINTELPRO, but if we ever got another bunch of zealous authoritarians in there...! -gg

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Re: WIRETAP: boycotts
by George A. Gleason 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

Re boycotting AT&T: Eric's proposal is great (cancel your AT&T long distance anyway) but I would suggest a more aggressive approach toward AT&T business telephone systems and consumer phone products. First of all, their equipment is mediocre at best. Their main business phone product, Merlin, is obsolete and truly nasty (details on request); System 75 (mid-sized PBX) is little better; their low-end key system (AT&T Spirit) is cheapy stuff, and although their Partner system is decent there are a number of better alternatives (Panasonic KXT-Hybrid is our favorite though if you want made in USA there's Comdial). AT&T have been pursuing an aggressive policy on initial pricing to try to kill off independent phone contractors, but their service doesn't measure up: expensive rates, delays, etc. So even if they drop their price by half on something to try to edge out a competitor, don't take the bait. Second, you can bet that they'll start introducing Tapper in their cordless phones pretty quickly, to try to win a market advantage based on having any kind of encryption at all. There are some cordless business phones available (one is designed for Merlin) and some new ones coming out soon. These will probably have Tapper in them. Ericsson have a cordless business phone system now, called FreeSet, which is essentially micro-cellular, and it uses a stronger European crypto standard if I'm not mistaken (I can go look up details if anyone wants to know). North Supply Premier is another version of same with some other encryption routine (ANYthing is better than Tapper at the moment) though not as adaptable as the Ericsson FreeSet system. For every AT&T phone set or system, there are plenty of better alternatives, and the time to start shifting your purchasing power is now. (oh BTW to clarify, what I meant by "new ones coming out soon" is that AT&T will probably try to jump on the Ericsson & North Premier bandwagon soon with their own version, with Tapper. "AT&T: phones with Big Brother Built Inside!" -gg

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Spooks like Suns (FYI)
by gnu 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

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Privacy International (fwd)
by szabo＠techbook.com 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

The following forwarded from alt.privacy. Anybody have experience with this group? Have they taken a position on the wiretap chip? Subject: Group Info: Privacy International Message-ID: <1993Apr12.184129.11455(a)mont.cs.missouri.edu> Originator: rich(a)pencil.cs.missouri.edu Organization: Privacy International PRIVACY INTERNATIONAL A WATCHDOG ON SURVEILLANCE GENERAL INFORMATION PRIVACY INTERNATIONAL - THE BIRTH OF A WORLDWIDE MOVEMENT We are posting this in the hope that you might get involved in a new organization which is actively involved world-wide in the protection of privacy. Privacy International is an independent Non Government Organization (NGO) established in 1990 to protect personal privacy and to monitor surveillance by governments, financial institutions, intelligence agencies, media, political groups, police, and other organizations. At the invitation of its members and member organizations throughout the world, Privacy International has conducted successful campaigns against surveillance in Asia, Europe and North America. Many of these campaigns have raised awareness about the dangers of proposals for identity cards, national numbering systems, computer linking programmes and military surveillance. Others have reinforced the importance of developing laws to protect personal privacy. WHO ARE PRIVACY INTERNATIONAL!S MEMBERS ? Over the past three years Privacy International has established an outstanding and very active member network of legal experts, human rights advocates, information systems experts, academics, data protection experts, social and political scientists , and a whole range of concerned individuals from more than 40 countries. These members, who comprise much of the world!s expertise in privacy protection, form an independent network that can respond fearlessly to problems of all kinds. SOME OF OUR WORK Privacy International has conducted campaigns on a wide variety of issues throughout Europe, North America and Asia Our first campaign was undertaken during 1991 in Thailand, where the government had established a central population registration and ID card system. The system, controlled by the powerful Ministry of the Interior, would link many departments and ministries, and had few legal safeguards. A seven week campaign by Privacy International raised awareness amongst politicians, human rights organizations and the public about the potential dangers of the system. The second campaign, concerning yet another ID card proposal was conducted in Manila during April and May of 1991. The invitation to Privacy International came from the Philippine Alliance of Human Rights Advocates (PAHRA), the peak human rights NGO in the Philippines. Several bills were pending in the Congress and the Senate mandating the establishment of a national identity card and numbering system. PAHRA felt that this proposal could infringe the rights of Filipinos, and create problems for the Philippines fragile democratic process. A comprehensive submission was made to the Senate of the Philippines, pointing out the likely costs, both in economic and civil rights terms, of the proposal. The third campaign involved the establishment by the New Zealand Government of a data matching and government benefits card system known generically as the "Kiwi Card". An invitation was issued to Privacy International by the Auckland Council for Civil Liberties in late August, and I travelled to Auckland in early September. The Council was concerned about the government's plan for a number of reasons. First, the plan to data match amongst government agencies lacked adequate legal protection. Second, the Kiwi Card plan raised issues of discrimination. A more general concern that developed throughout the subsequent campaign was whether the New Zealand legal and political system embraced enough protections and rights to ensure that the system would not be abused. Current Activities THE NORTHERN IRELAND SURVEILLANCE PROJECT This project, the first of its type ever undertaken in Northern Ireland, will investigate the full extent of surveillance throughout the country. It is to be sponsored by the Law Faculty of the Queen!s University of Belfast. Human rights organizations have expressed concern for some years over the loss of basic rights in Northern Ireland. The development of complex and powerful information technology has increased the risk of routine surveillance of citizens, and consequently the loss of personal privacy in Northern Ireland has escalated. The emergency legislation in force there compounds this unfortunate situation. The report will be made publicly available by the end of 1993. THE STASI FILE PROJECT One of the most complex civil and political rights issues for former eastern block countries is the dilemma of how to deal with the files of police and intelligence organizations. The problem is compounded by the absence of any international guidelines which could be used as a benchmark. Privacy International is planning to establish a project which will develop international guidelines for handling police and official files in countries which are in transition to democracy. Privacy International has established an expert group to develop the guidelines. he establishment of an independent The group will work closely closely with members of relevant countries seeking to develop such legislation. THE BIG BROTHER AWARDS Governments, private sector organizations, credit bureaus, police departments and the military in many countries are engaging in programs which have the effect of eroding the rights and privacy of individuals. These practices often breach international human rights conventions, and threaten the balance or evolution of free and open societies. In many cases, information technology is used for the purposes of increasing the power of authorities, while diminishing the rights of individuals. These violations occur in all parts of the world. The Big Brother awards sponsored by Privacy International, will be given to the organization, initiative, government or act which is most invasive of private life, or which is responsible for the most dangerous and intrusive acts of surveillance. Privacy International believes that there should be a more widespread awareness of these practices. We believe people have the right to know when governments or other organizations are engaging in intrusive practices that limit individual rights. We aim to provide an effective context for viewing these invasive practices, by establishing an international benchmark. The establishment of the Big Brother awards aims to provide a world-wide focus on surveillance and privacy. THE INTERNATIONAL PRIVACY BULLETIN Privacy International!s quarterly newsletter, The International Privacy Bulletin, contains reports from around the world on privacy and surveillance, together with articles on a wide spectrum of privacy issues such as telecommunications privacy, encryption, privacy legislation, corrupt disclosure of confidential files and news of Privacy International!s activities. The International Privacy Bulletin is distributed free to all members and supporters. THE INTERNATIONAL INTERNET PRIVACY ARCHIVE Computer Professionals for Social Responsibility (CPSR) has created an electronic library of reports, laws and commentary on privacy. The archive includes discussions of communications privacy, cryptography, texts of international documents on privacy and many other materials. There are several hundred documents in the archive and more are being added every day. There is also a special folder in the library for Privacy International documents including electronic versions of newsletters, updates, country reports and international documents. There are currently several dozen files available. Access is through Internet mail, FTP, Gopher or WAIS. Through mail, send the command: help as the first line of text in a message to listserv(a)cpsr.org. FTP/Gopher/WAIS to cpsr.org folder /cpsr. All access is free. Users of the archive are encouraged to submit their articles for others to use. People who are interested in submitting articles, please contact David Banisar at 1+202/544-9240 Email: banisar(a)washofc.cpsr.org If you are interested in getting involved in the work of Privacy International, please contact Simon Davies, Marc Rotenberg, or David Banisar at : Privacy International, 666 Pennsylvania Ave SE Suite 303 Washington, DC 20003 United States of America Phone (+1) 202 544 9240 Fax (+1) 202 547 5481 E.Mail: pi(a)washofc.cpsr.org PRIVACY INTERNATIONAL MEMBERSHIP FORM Name...................................................... Organisation.............................................. Address................................................... .......................................................... .......................................................... Phone..................................................... Fax....................................................... Email..................................................... Special interests ........................................ .......................................................... $20 (Low income) $50 (full membership) All personal information is strickly confidential and will not be disclosed without the prior consent of the indvidual.

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Overreaction.....
by uni＠acs.bu.edu 23 Apr '93

23 Apr '93

Begin Forwarded Message Article 9566 (7 more) in alt.security: From: uni(a)acs.bu.edu (Shaen Bernhardt) Newsgroups: sci.crypt,alt.security,comp.org.eff.talk,comp.security.misc,comp.org.acm, comp.org.ieee Subject: Re: Overreacting (was Re: Once tapped, your code is no good any more) Message-ID: <116530(a)bu.edu> Date: 23 Apr 93 02:36:14 GMT References: <1993Apr22.134214.18517(a)rick.dgbt.doc.ca> Sender: news(a)bu.edu Followup-To: sci.crypt Distribution: na Organization: Boston University, Boston, MA, USA Lines: 82 In article <1993Apr22.134214.18517(a)rick.dgbt.doc.ca> jhan(a)debra.dgbt.doc.ca (Jerry Ha n) writes: >In this giant bally-ho over this Clipper chip I noticed a rather >disturbing trend in some of the E-mail and posts I've tossing back and >forth. > >Somebody asked me what was wrong about overreacting in cases such as this. > >The reason is very simple: How many people do you want to die in a riot? >In a new Civil War? > >Everybody is jumping up and down and screaming about it, and I'm worried >that people are going to reach for their hammers and rifles before their pens >and paper. > >Can people work within the system before trying to break it? A circut court judge in Illinois once said "When dealing with a government that seeks continually new and more creative ways to spy on its' citizenry, one cannot discourage the move to empower the common citizen with the means to parry this attack on personal privacy." (Unfortunately the comment was with regard to the banning of radar detectors....) The point remains. More and more I see the government slowly washing away privacy. Even unwittingly. Do you think I will ever live in a soceity that issues smart cards to citizens at birth? Do you think I will live in a soceity that insists I register my crypto keys so they can keep track of what I'm saying? Even if there is no evidence of my guilt? Do you think I will ever live in a soceity that seeks to meddle in the affairs of its' citizenry without recourse of any kind? I'm tired of it. There is (IMHO) no compromise with an administration that seeks to implement these proposals under the guise of enhancing privacy. More than the proposals themselves, I read the language of the press releases, the obvious deception involved in presenting these pieces to the public, and I am sickened. I am revolted. I am repulsed. 90%, perhaps even 95% of this country could care less about the clipper chip, the wiretap bill, the smart card, because they are so entrapped in the rhetoric of the Clinton Administration. This saddens and frightens me. I am a conserveative believe it or not. A law and order conserveative. But the move to a centralized authoratarian regime really scares me, mostly because I know you cant go far wrong underestimating the intelligence of the American people. Tell them it's going to keep them safe from drug dealers and terrorists, and they will let you put cameras in their home. Even in the wake of Waco, you find those who support the increasingly totalatarian moves. >Somebody once said something like: "Armed Violence is meant only to be >used in response to an armed attack. It is not meant to be used in >agression. This is the difference between self-defence and murder." To be quite honest, the way things are going, I'd call it self defense. >Let's try to avoid killing things, eh? There's enough blood shed in the >world, without adding a couple of riots, Civil Wars, etc. > >I'm probably overreacting. But what I've read scared me a lot. I don't >want my children growing up in a War Zone. And I dont want mine growning up in the eyes of a security camera 24 hours a day. >-- >Jerry Han-CRC-DOC-Div. of Behavioural Research-"jhan(a)debra.dgbt.doc.ca" >///////////// These are my opinions, and my opinions only. \\\\\\\\\\\\\ >\\\\\\\\\ A proud and frozen member of the Mighty Warriors Band //////// >"Memories of those I've left behind, still ringing in my ears."-Genesis- uni -- uni(a)acs.bu.edu -> Public Keys by finger and/or request Public Key Archives: <pgp-public-keys(a)pgp.iastate.edu> Sovereignty is the sign of a brutal past.<>Fight Clinton's Wiretap Chip! DF610670F2467B99 97DE2B5C3749148C <> Crypto is not a Crime! Ask me how! Forwarded message ends. I reposted this for the benefit of those who might not be actives on the newsgroups it was distributed to. After I wrote this reply, I went out for a beer with a friend of mine. We didn't talk about crypto or privacy (he's more into the Hartford Whalers) but I couldn't get it out of my mind. More and more I feel violated. We live in an age where direct marketers send mail to my address and I have no idea who gave it to them. We live in an age where you call up the chinese food place for a delivery and after getting your phone number, (with caller ID in some places) they ask you if you'll have "the usual" [no joke]. We live in an age where your credit card might have your digitized picture on it. We live in an age where despite the freedom of information act, your file, should you request it, is more than half inked out. We live in an age where your social security number is a "handle" to your life and habits. We live in an age where anyone can order a copy of your tax return and merely be asked "may I have your social security number please?" Privacy has become a joke. Plastic money, databases, credit reports, whereever you look, there is some entity looking to collect something else on you. I for one, have had it. It's true, I'm conserveative. But where will it end? How many more blows to liberty and privacy will be made before there is little left? I've studied intelligence, political science, international relations, and law here at B.U. Next year I will be at Georgetown working on my J.D. But I doubt I will stay here in the states. I think perhaps Liechtenstein offers a more hands off atmosphere. In retrospect, I really don't think I'm concerned with the pettyness of this or that blow to privacy, but the system that slowly builds. I'm a paranoid at heart. I don't TRUST the system. I never will. It's too bad others do. Someday I hope someone explains to the vast number of people the difference between freedom to, and freedom from. I never thought I'd sound like a revolutionary. uni (Dark)

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