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copy of "From Crossbows to Cryptography" anyone?
by nate＠VIS.ColoState.EDU 09 Jul '93

09 Jul '93

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Inned a copy, and I think that there is a problem with the one at soda... when I decompress it, the last few pages are a bit skewed.. thanks, - -nate sammons +-------------------------------------------------------------------- | Nate Sammons email: nate(a)VIS.ColoState.Edu | Colorado State University Computer Visualization Laboratory | Finger me at nate(a)monet.VIS.ColoState.Edu for my PGP key | #include <std.disclaimer> | "I have but one single desire - to tear down the sky" -A. Toomba +----------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLDzSZdTgi1fmrpxlAQHwIwP9GcQQD8vdcmFPA+EU7HSrvId6he5rQYQs far/oI+a/UKgFNkcapLY2CoBMcecdFWjaOxmq5kbJggER8jKmbGyaiYFds85aAF6 h09yWieFYKXDuM1UyT6s9EXQWBEQks24iCxERen5d0o/DiL3xT44zNWN97XRDCcd apYQdULSh9Q= =Qnsp -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Loop stopped, I hope.
by gnu 09 Jul '93

09 Jul '93

The loop appeared to be at pro-storm.cts.com or pro-sol.cts.com, so I temporarily removed two people at those sites from the list. Neither is on the Intenet, so I can't check from here what the exact problem is. John

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using pgp with vanilla berkeley mail
by nate＠VIS.ColoState.EDU 09 Jul '93

09 Jul '93

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hey guys, I set PAGER to "pgp -m" (with the full path, of course) in my .mailrc, and I use the PGPmail wrapper from Jason L. Steiner (way to go Jason!) to sign and encrypt mail. This seems to work fine, since it leaves the message encrypted and all in the mbox (or wherever) unless I choose to save it (when pgp asks) thanks for all the help. - -nate +-------------------------------------------------------------------- | Nate Sammons email: nate(a)VIS.ColoState.Edu | Colorado State University Computer Visualization Laboratory | Finger me at nate(a)monet.VIS.ColoState.Edu for my PGP key | #include <std.disclaimer> | "I have but one single desire - to tear down the sky" -A. Toomba +----------------------+ -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: 2.3 iQCVAgUBLDzHutTgi1fmrpxlAQG2FgP+IiMAUOhteLeLMfRw5oQ0Q4bv8MUpwsep UVvTn839CFD4s1qHZ9mhmYGFKHy2UHi0VkBsnWLYKfQgedMXdFXOlRrdFIAFufpG 743XIaSvYrcOODjRHlyQRQXw0RN0b76VJwBw9CLNJsTuRdT4yrWaxtw45li2bat3 8t+x/O9oJH4= =BTN9 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Re: Thanks for the enlightenment
by J. Michael Diehl 09 Jul '93

09 Jul '93

According to Morgan Davis: > > Let me thank all of those who set me straight on the PGP signature stuff. > I got about half a dozen messages that politely educated me on the use of > PGP secured messages. (This also served as a test to make sure our news > program is properly interfacing with this mailing list -- and it is.) > This has puzzled me for some time, too. Would you please summarize? Thanx. +-----------------------+-----------------------------+---------+ | J. Michael Diehl ;-) | I thought I was wrong once. | PGP KEY | | mdiehl(a)triton.unm.edu | But, I was mistaken. |available| | mike.diehl(a)fido.org | | Ask Me! | | (505) 299-2282 +-----------------------------+---------+ | | +------"I'm just looking for the opportunity to be -------------+ | Politically Incorrect!" <Me> | +-----If codes are outlawed, only criminals wil have codes.-----+ +----Is Big Brother in your phone? If you don't know, ask me---+

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PGP in emacs rmail
by Ciamac Moallemi 09 Jul '93

09 Jul '93

eichin> There's one mode (that I'm not going to post without asking the author eichin> first) that uses terminal-mode... however, pgp-2.2 had a feature added eichin> which should make it much easier to write one, namely it lets you eichin> specify that a key gets stuffed in via a file descriptor -- so you run eichin> pgp (using a pty, rather than a pipe), feed it the private key eichin> password, then the file, and it spits back the text (and other info.) eichin> I've been lazy, and haven't actually implemented it, but it's much eichin> cleaner than terminal mode (since you're trusting emacs with your key eichin> anyway, having it read the input isn't much of a problem, though I'd eichin> suggest a "limit coredumpsize 0" first :-) I wrote elisp code for vm that does this if anyone is interested. Ciamac.

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Thanks for the enlightenment
by mdavis＠pro-sol.cts.com 08 Jul '93

08 Jul '93

Let me thank all of those who set me straight on the PGP signature stuff. I got about half a dozen messages that politely educated me on the use of PGP secured messages. (This also served as a test to make sure our news program is properly interfacing with this mailing list -- and it is.) /\/\ Morgan Davis Group (619/670-0563) / /__\ Internet: mdavis(a)pro-sol.cts.com

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ANON: Steshenko, nntp
by nobody＠shell.portal.com 08 Jul '93

08 Jul '93

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- The discussion on Mr. Steshenko's termination of employment has taken off in misc.jobs.misc and news.admin.policy. Some people have e-mailed me saying that what happened to Mr. Steshenko isn't uncommon at all. This fact bothered me all weekend long, that somebody can get fired for views expressed in a private e-list, which probably extrapolates to USENET posting as well. Apparently, Mr. Steshenko forgot to include the "disclaimer: my opinions" with his email. Is this all that is required? If he merely would have added the disclaimer, would his former employer be facing possible legal action? Would he still be employed? Is there some "minimal" text that must be included? I mean, I've seen disclaimers that are nearly a paragraph long to ones that try to be cute (#include <std.disclaimer> and so forth). I'm not saying his employer is in the wrong (I haven't really thought about this issue too much) since they are a private company and can censor and control use of their machines and all that stuff; it just goes to show sometimes you have to be really careful what you say and to whom. (If you missed the post to alt.comp.acad-freedom.talk and various other groups and don't get usenet let me know and I'll post it to the list if there is enough interest. I'm not sure if email copies I sent out made it since some bounces occured. Plus the good old "cannot deliver for 3 days; message queued" sort of error.) It bugged me because I really beleive that it is impossible to carry on a rational discussion if one side is afraid to voice an opinion. I'm not advocating libel or misuse (personal attacks, threats of violence, etc.) but every once in a while a really hot topic comes up which stirs the emotions. So, we can all forge mail with smtp, use the cypherpunk remailers, use "anonymous" servers like penet and charcoal, email-to-usenet gateways, etc. I've never seen instructions on how to forge a usenet post, so here goes: 1) Telnet to an NNTP server (see Yanoff's internet services list) 2) Type 'post'. After a bit, you'll get an OK message. 3) Type in what you want to appear. Have in mind before you start what fields you want in the header, or check other posts to see what they have. 4) End with a period on a line all by itself. After a bit, you'll get a "Post OK" message. 5) Type 'quit' For example, I was experimenting and telnetted to news.fu-berlin.de 119: ====================================================================== menudo> telnet news.fu-berlin.de 119 Trying 130.133.4.250... Connected to gibb.math.fu-berlin.de. Escape character is '^]'. 200 gibb NNTP server version 1.5.11 (10 February 1991) ready at Thu Jul 8 16:19:05 1993 (posting ok). post 340 Ok Newsgroups: alt.binaries.pictures.d Path: one!two!three From: mr.smiley@other plane Subject: A test II Content-Type: text Sender: the MailMan Nntp-Posting-Host: castle Organization: other plane hackers Date: Thu, 8 Jul 1993 07:45:00 GMT Lines: 1 This is another test.

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job listing, supercomputer systems administration
by jet＠nas.nasa.gov 08 Jul '93

08 Jul '93

-----cut here---- Computer Sciences Corporation (CSC) has an immediate opening for two Parallel Systems Analysts to support the Numerical Aerodynamic Simulation (NAS) Program at NASA Ames Research Center, including a possible lead analyst position. The position is for a Systems Analyst in the Parallel Systems (PS) group of the Computational Services branch. This group provides support for the NAS parallel systems, which currently include a 128 node Thinking Machines CM-5, a 128 node Intel iPSC/860, and a 224 node Intel Paragon XP/S. Other systems may added in late 1993. While the group is part of a support organization, the immaturity of parallel supercomputers provides opportunitities for a significant amount of development work. Routine system administration and user assistance is provided by a separate user services organization, leaving only the more difficult problems and policy issues to be resolved by the parallel systems analysts. Network, distributed software, and parallel scientific programming (i.e. FORTRAN) support is also provided by separate groups, and on-site vendor analysts provide additional assistance. Current group members are involved in projects ranging from the development and modification of UNIX tools to kernel development work, as well as day to day system maintenance and evaluation tasks. The parallel systems group also has a close relationship with the proprietor of the best Indian restaurant in the known Universe. The NAS parallel systems operate in a networked (UltraNet, HiPPI, FDDI, Ethernet) heterogeneous environment that consists of a Cray Y-MP 8/8256, a Cray C-90, a large mass storage system, several general purpose support processors, and over 200 high performance workstations. UNIX and UNIX-derivatives are used exclusively. Located at NASA Ames Research Center in Mountain View, California, the NAS Program is recognized internationally as a leader in large-scale scientific computing. Its mission is to act as the pathfinder in advanced, large-scale computer system capability through systematic incorporation of state-of-the- art improvements in computer hardware and software technologies; provide a national computational capability, available to NASA, industry, DoD, other Government agencies, and universities as a necessary element in ensuring continuing leadership in computational fluid dynamics and related computational aerospace disciplines. NAS considers parallel supercomputers to be the future of supercomputing, and opportunities for a motivated individual are extensive. Required Skills: o Bachelor's degree in computer science or related field, or unrelated bachelor's degree with equivalent experience. o Fluency with C and at least one UNIX shell, and excellent UNIX skills. o Experience as a system administrator in a UNIX network environment. o Good problem-solving and communications skills. o Willingness and ability to learn new skills. o U.S. Citizenship. Desired Skills: o Experience with parallel computers. o Experience with OSF/1, Mach 3.0, or other multiprocessor-capable operating systems. o Experience in a large scale scientific programming environment. Note: Computer Sciences Corporation policy requires pre-employment drug screening. Any job candidate who receives an offer letter from CSC must report for testing within 48 hours. Please forward your resume to: Eric Townsend Computer Sciences Corporation NASA Ames Research Center M/S 258-6 Moffett Field, CA 94035-1000 or email jet(a)nas.nasa.gov

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META:Digital Signatures
by Andrew S Hall 08 Jul '93

08 Jul '93

Is there anyway for the list software to incorporate digital signatures as verifying the poster is a list member? I know Tim posted a whistle-blowing trial balloon, and I have used my anonymous acct to post here. It would be nice if the software used digital signatures to verify list members regardless of their actual origin of posting. Presumably the signature recognition base would be seperate from the names base. This is primarily directed to the Extropians mailing list, but overlaps to cypherpunks. What I am considering is that a user could chose to only accept digitally verified postings. That would eliminate noise like subscription requests. It would also "verify" anonymous postings as being from a "valid" (as in list member) source. I know there are some problems such as maintaining anonymity, but I think verifying would have some interesting and positive results. We could trade HeX shares based on signatures, not names. That would eliminate the element of personality (or some of it) contest. Some one who is considered persona non gratia could redeem themselves with a series of high quality, but anonymous posts. A. Techno-Anarchy.Neophilia.Economic Freedom.Cryptography.Anti-Statism.Personal Liberty.Laissez-Faire.Privacy Protection.Libertarianism.No Taxes.No Bullshit. ********** Liberty BBS 1-614-798-9537 ********** ********** Dedicated to Freedom. Yours. **********

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PGP in emacs rmail
by Mike Rose 08 Jul '93

08 Jul '93

Has anyone written elisp code for running pgp? I found crypt++, but in its default configuration it only does conventional crypto, nothing like signing, verification, and pubkey encryption. Has someone already done this, or am I pioneering new ground? Mike

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