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by "Michael MacKian - ml"＠mackian.freeserve.co.uk 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>From: Steve Black - webworker(a)grapemail.net >Subject: ScanDisk and Defrag aren't working. What do I do? This is usually caused by something modifying the disk contents so the program says 'whoops!' and starts all over again. Particular sinners are screen savers - turn them off when doing a defrag - and programs like Task Scheduler, FindFast and Promotivator. Press ctl-alt-del (once!) to bring up a list of open programs, highlight a program that looks suspect and press 'end task', then go back and do the next one. (Don't press Shut Down, because that shuts the whole darned computer down!) For a guide on which ones you can safely turn off in this way, send a blank email to mkncys(a)fastresponse.com Good luck! Michael MacKian Sshhh!! - I've found the secret of making money on the internet....... http://reduce.to/puregold ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> WEBSITE SHOWCASES <<<<<< Examine carefully - those with email addresses included WILL trade links with you, you are encouraged to contact them. And, there are many ways to build a successful business. Just look at these successful sites/programs other members are involved in... ------------------------------------------------- CashPO is Paid E-Mail Central! Get FREE REFERRALS, _KEEP_ referrals when new programs are added; free advertising to other members, and soon chances to win cash! http://www.cashpo.net/CashPO/openpage.php4?c=2 ------------------------------------------------- *** FREE MP3 PLAYER *** FREE Sony MP3 Digital Stereo Player & More Everything is FREE at iRewards http://www.adreporting.com/at.cgi?a=156074&e=/3/ ------------------------------------------------- For a limited time only, we are offering --TWO-- FREE eBooks to show you how to MAKE MONEY ON THE INTERNET! Use our PROVEN, DUPLICATABLE methods to get in on this EXPLODING opportunity now! Visit us at: http://www.Abundance-Group.com to collect your FREE offers! Trade Links - Gina(a)AbundanceGroup.com ------------------------------------------------- If you have a product, service, opportunity and/or quality merchandise that appeals to people worldwide, reach your target audience! For a fraction of what other large newsletters charge you can exhibit your website here for only $8 CPM. Why?... Because as a valuable member we want you to be successful! Order today - Exhibits are limited and published on a first come, first serve basis. http://bannersgomlm.com/ezine ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> MEMBER *REVIEWS* <<<<<< Visit these sites, look for what you like and any suggestions you can offer, and send your critique to MyInput And, after reviewing three sites, your web site will be added to the list! It's fun, easy, and it's a great opportunity to give some help and receive an informative review of your own site. Plus, you can also win a chance to have y our site chosen for a free website redesign. One randomly drawn winner each month! SITES TO REVIEW: Site #132: http://www.essjayar.co.uk/ Stuart stuart.reid(a)ntlworld.com Site #133: http://www.gems-gifts.com Michael Blanchette mfj(a)netway.com Site #134: http://www.LenSeiderInc.com Len Seider Lenseider(a)cs.com Site #135: http://www.alabastercove.com webmaster(a)alabastercove.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ SITE REVIEWED! Comments on Site #131: http://www.webwitness.homestead.com John Stitzel oldstitz(a)yahoo.com ~~~~ I liked how this site was focused on one subject. The text on the home page made it clear what the site was about and what I would find within its pages. Well done, most people don't get that right. Suggestions: move the navigation buttons from the bottom of the page to the left side, they get lost in all those banners. Also there are way too many banners and graphics on each page. The graphics are too large and really make the pages slow loading. Your logo 'Witness on the Web' is over 100K alone. Your entire page, with all the graphics on it, should not be that large. Also if you are going to embed a sound file on the page please give us an option of turning it off. Hope I'm not coming off too negative - it is an attractive site with a nice use of color and text. I think its a great start. ~~~~ Webwitness loaded very slow. I think you'll lose visitors who don't want to wait, and that would be a shame. Optimize the graphics, and maybe use smaller pictures or eliminate some to speed up the loading time. Move your links to the top of the page. ~~~~ John, I really enjoyed your site, but I think with a few changes it could be improved. I would definitely recommend moving your link buttons to the left side column so visitors don't have to scroll way way down to the bottom of the page to visit the other pages. On your purposestatement page, you don't need the bright blue 'welcome.' It doesn't match the rest ofthe page, and visitors have already been welcomed at the home page. On your testimony page I saw a link to your mailing list. Have this as a separate link button to make it more noticeable and get more people to sign up. Also, you might want to add a 'recommend to a friend' link. I liked your left column borders, and they did relate nicely, but I think they made the pages load slooowly. If you stuck with one border, I'm thinking it would speed up the loading of all the pages. I liked the name of your website, it went well with your subject and focus. Some things I really enjoyed - your personal touch and message throughout the site, the calming feeling of the design, the testimonies. In fact, just keep building the content - it's great. With some changes to the layout, and contacting other sites for trading links you'll have a successful website. ~~~~ This site needs desperately to optimize all graphics. I waited and waited and it never did completely load. ~~~~ First impression while uploading: very appealing as the border came up immediately. Then the doves showed up and I did not like them at all. Takes up time to load and distracts from the text. I would not have them. If you feel you just have to have doves, stick to the static picture. No animation. The "witness on the web" Logo took forever to load up. Could that be done in just writing, without the background or what ever slows it down? The opening portion one sees initially before scrolling looks good except for the doves up on top. But when one scrolls down to all these banners, links etc, things get really confusing. Would there be a way you can have a few link buttons that go to additional pages rather then to have all of this clutter down below? I never did link to any of the other pages or sites. Hope this helps. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ ______________________________________________________ moderator: Amy Mossel: Moderator(a)AEOpublishing.com posting: MyInput(a)AEOpublishing.com ______________________________________________________ Send posts and questions (or your answers) to: mailto:MyInput@AEOpublishing.com Please send suggestions and comments to: mailto:Moderator@AEOpublishing.com To change your subscribed address, send both new and old address to mailto:Moderator@AEOpublishing.com See below for unsubscribe instructions. Copyright 2001 AEOpublishing ----- End of Your Membership Exchange ------------------------------------------------ ------------------------------------------------ This email has been sent to cypherpunks(a)cyberpass.net at your request, by Your Membership Newsletter Services. 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Dear Subscribers, I have a question that is hindering my online progress and success. I have been trying to build my own webpage with a simple application form with inputs of First Name, Last Name Email Address and a click "submit" button. I have an email account on the same free web site provider and my own email account.  The application form is to be submitted either to my mail box on the same website or to my own email box. How to write and create the html codes for this simple application form? I enclose below the html codes for form, I will appreciate very much if you could kindly advise,  comment and pick out the mistakes or make due corrections or amendments. All coding is between '[' and ']' instead of the less than and greater than signs to avoid any conflict in the newsletter.   [FORM ACTION=http://www.yourdomain.com method=POST] [input type=hidden name="mail_to" value="your email address"] [input type=hidden name="subject" value=       "I would like to join your program for free!"] [input type=hidden name="required" value="firstname,lastname,email"] [/center] [blockquote]&nbsp;[center] [table][tr][tr][td ALIGN=RIGHT][i]Frist name[/i] [/td] [td][input] type="text" size="25" name="firstname"][/td][/tr][/tr] [tr][td][td ALIGN=RIGHT][i]Last name[/i][/td][td][input type="text" size="25" name="lastname"][/td][/tr][/tr] [tr][tr][td ALIGN=RIGHT][i]Email Address[/i][/td][/td][input type="text" size="25" name="email"][/td][/tr]/tr] [tr][td ALIGN=RIGHT][i][/i][/td][/td][/tr] [/table][/center][/Blockquote][/td][/tr][/table] [center][input type="SUBMIT" value="Join for Free"][/form] Thank you. Best regards.   Ng Lye Fong spc(a)pl.jaring.my   ANSWERS: From:  Paradigm Web Design   - ed(a)lakesplus.com Subject:  Other choices in software might work better >From: Steve Black   - webworker(a)grapemail.net >Subject:  ScanDisk and Defrag aren't working. What do I do? > >I am having a problem running maintainence on my computer. >ScanDisk and Defrag seem to keep running over and over >without any results. Also, my clock kicks back an hour ever >once in a while for no apparrent reason.  Has anyone else >ever ran into these problems?  Any suggestions? Steve, Before trying to defrag or run Scan disk, be sure to exit every single application that may be runing in the background. Right click all the little icons on the right side of your task bar and exit those applications. The Defrag and Scan disk that comes with Windows isn't very good. I would suggest searching http://zdnet.com for others. There are many free or low-cost programs that will handle this job for you much more efficiently. ReG@rds, Ed Paradigm Web Design Because an effective website doesn't have to be costly. <a href="http://ParadigmWebDesign.net">http://ParadigmWebDesign.net</a> Subscribe to Web Sm@rts <a href="http://paradigmwebdesign.net/subscribe.html">http://paradigmwebdesign.net/subscribe.html</a>   ++++ Next Answer - Same Question ++++ From:  Michael MacKian   - ml(a)mackian.freeserve.co.uk Subject:  End all tasks before starting >From: Steve Black   - webworker(a)grapemail.net >Subject:  ScanDisk and Defrag aren't working. What do I do? This is usually caused by something modifying the disk contents so the program says 'whoops!' and starts all over again. Particular sinners are screen savers - turn them off when doing a defrag - and programs like Task Scheduler, FindFast and Promotivator. Press ctl-alt-del (once!) to bring up a list of open programs, highlight a program that looks suspect and press 'end task', then go back and do the next one.  (Don't press Shut Down, because that shuts the whole darned computer down!) For a guide on which ones you can safely turn off in this way, send a blank email to mkncys(a)fastresponse.com Good luck! Michael MacKian Sshhh!! - I've found the secret of making money on the internet....... <a href="http://reduce.to/puregold">http://reduce.to/puregold</a> ______________________________________________________ >>>>>> WEBSITE SHOWCASES <<<<<< Examine carefully - those with email addresses included WILL trade links with you, you are encouraged to contact them. And, there are many ways to build a successful business. Just look at these successful sites/programs other members are involved in.. ------------------------------------------------- CashPO is Paid E-Mail Central! 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Plus, you can also win a chance to have y our site chosen for a free website redesign. One randomly drawn winner each month!   SITES TO REVIEW: Site #132:  <a href="http://www.essjayar.co.uk/">http://www.essjayar.co.uk/</a> Stuart stuart.reid(a)ntlworld.com Site #133:  <a href="http://www.gems-gifts.com">http://www.gems-gifts.com</a> Michael Blanchette mfj(a)netway.com Site #134:  <a href="http://www.LenSeiderInc.com">http://www.LenSeiderInc.com</a> Len Seider Lenseider(a)cs.com Site #135:  <a href="http://www.alabastercove.com">http://www.alabastercove.com</a> webmaster(a)alabastercove.com ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~   SITE  REVIEWED! Comments on Site #131: <a href="http://www.webwitness.homestead.com">http://www.webwitness.homestead.com</a> John Stitzel oldstitz(a)yahoo.com ~~~~ I liked how this site was focused on one subject.  The text on the home page made it clear what the site was about and what I would find within its pages.  Well done, most people don't get that right. Suggestions:  move the navigation buttons from the bottom of the page to the left side, they get lost in all those banners. Also there are way too many banners and graphics on each page.  The graphics are too large and really make the pages slow loading.  Your logo 'Witness on the Web' is over 100K alone.  Your entire page, with all the graphics on it, should not be that large.  Also if you are going to embed a sound file on the page please give us an option of turning it off. Hope I'm not coming off too negative - it is an attractive site with a nice use of color and text.  I think its a great start. ~~~~ Webwitness loaded very slow.  I think you'll lose visitors who don't want to wait, and that would be a shame. Optimize the graphics, and maybe use smaller pictures or eliminate some to speed up the loading time. Move your links to the top of the page. ~~~~ John, I really enjoyed your site, but I think with a few changes it could be improved.  I would definitely recommend moving your link buttons to the left side column so visitors don't have to scroll way way down to the bottom of the page to visit the other pages. On your purposestatement page, you don't need the bright blue 'welcome.' It doesn't match the rest ofthe page, and visitors have already been welcomed at the home page. On your testimony page I saw a link to your mailing list. Have this as a separate link button to make it more noticeable and get more people to sign up. Also, you might want to add a 'recommend to a friend' link. I liked your left column borders, and they did relate nicely, but I think they made the pages load slooowly. If you stuck with one border, I'm thinking it would speed up the loading of all the pages. I liked the name of your website, it went well with your subject and focus. Some things I really enjoyed - your personal touch and message throughout the site, the calming feeling of the design, the testimonies. In fact, just keep building the content - it's great. With some changes to the layout, and contacting other sites for trading links you'll have a successful website. ~~~~ This site needs desperately to optimize all graphics. I waited and waited and it never did completely load. ~~~~ First impression while uploading: very appealing  as the border came up immediately. Then the doves showed up and I did not like them at all. Takes up time to load and distracts from the text. I would not have them. If you feel you just have to have doves, stick to the static picture. No animation. The "witness on the web" Logo took forever to load up. Could that be done in just writing, without the background or what ever slows it down? The opening portion  one sees initially before scrolling looks good except for the doves up on top.  But when one scrolls down to all these banners, links etc, things get really confusing. Would there be a way you can have a few link buttons that go to additional pages rather then to have all of this clutter down below? I never did link to any of the other pages or sites. 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Other choices in software might work better
by "Paradigm Web Design - ed"＠lakesplus.com 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>From: Steve Black - webworker(a)grapemail.net >Subject: ScanDisk and Defrag aren't working. What do I do? > >I am having a problem running maintainence on my computer. >ScanDisk and Defrag seem to keep running over and over >without any results. Also, my clock kicks back an hour ever >once in a while for no apparrent reason. Has anyone else >ever ran into these problems? Any suggestions? Steve, Before trying to defrag or run Scan disk, be sure to exit every single application that may be runing in the background. Right click all the little icons on the right side of your task bar and exit those applications. The Defrag and Scan disk that comes with Windows isn't very good. I would suggest searching http://zdnet.com for others. There are many free or low-cost programs that will handle this job for you much more efficiently. ReG@rds, Ed Paradigm Web Design Because an effective website doesn't have to be costly. http://ParadigmWebDesign.net Subscribe to Web Sm@rts http://paradigmwebdesign.net/subscribe.html ++++ Next Answer - Same Question ++++

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html code for simple application/join form?
by "Exim Wawasan - spc"＠pl.jaring.my 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Dear Subscribers, I have a question that is hindering my online progress and success. I have been trying to build my own webpage with a simple application form with inputs of First Name, Last Name Email Address and a click "submit" button. I have an email account on the same free web site provider and my own email account. The application form is to be submitted either to my mail box on the same website or to my own email box. How to write and create the html codes for this simple application form? I enclose below the html codes for form, I will appreciate very much if you could kindly advise, comment and pick out the mistakes or make due corrections or amendments. All coding is between '[' and ']' instead of the less than and greater than signs to avoid any conflict in the newsletter. [FORM ACTION=http://www.yourdomain.com method=POST] [input type=hidden name="mail_to" value="your email address"] [input type=hidden name="subject" value= "I would like to join your program for free!"] [input type=hidden name="required" value="firstname,lastname,email"] [/center] [blockquote] [center] [table][tr][tr][td ALIGN=RIGHT][i]Frist name[/i] [/td] [td][input] type="text" size="25" name="firstname"][/td][/tr][/tr] [tr][td][td ALIGN=RIGHT][i]Last name[/i][/td][td][input type="text" size="25" name="lastname"][/td][/tr][/tr] [tr][tr][td ALIGN=RIGHT][i]Email Address[/i][/td][/td][input type="text" size="25" name="email"][/td][/tr]/tr] [tr][td ALIGN=RIGHT][i][/i][/td][/td][/tr] [/table][/center][/Blockquote][/td][/tr][/table] [center][input type="SUBMIT" value="Join for Free"][/form] Thank you. Best regards. Ng Lye Fong spc(a)pl.jaring.my ANSWERS:

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by sunder 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

> I tend to just string up lots of characters, so my passphrases look like this: > > ^#.;Odfi9@7f$}'~%42w0,m:Qe_|33+\ and so on. Why the heck would you need a password this big? There are 94 printable characters (0x33 .. 0x7E); a random password 32 chars long (like the above) will thus have ~ 1.38 x 10^63 possibilities, meaning 210 bits of entropy (10^63 = O(2^210)). What, do you intend to use your password as a public key? A password made of the same character set, but only 8 chars long, will provide 94^8 ~= 6 x 10^15 = O(2^50) combinations. I'd say that's plenty - remember, it's a password, not a key. Mark

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Re: Jack Straw on the 'Today' programme
by Ken Brown 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Ian Miller wrote: > > Jack Straw has just been interviewed on the BBC4 Today programme. After > talking untypically good sense on his recent round of diplomacy, he > finished off with a rant against the press for daring to criticise his > efforts to regulate encryption, suggesting it was this that prevented > catching the WTC terrorists before they struck. He also seemed to be > assuming that, in the light of recent events, we would all agree with him > now. > > It sounded to me very like he was diverging from his script, and expressing > his own personal frustration, so we shouldn't assume it necessarily signals > anything about government policy. Albeit he is probably saying the same > sort of nonsense in cabinet. I heard it as well. It made me angry. Angry enough to waste 20 minutes ranting. It does seem as if Straw was taking it personally. My guess is that some of it stems from New Labour's vast desire to win elections. They believe that government must seem to be strong to be re-elected. So anything that looks like a government defeat is an anomaly that should be rectified as soon as possible. If Straw really thinks he gave in on encryption (as far as I can tell they won) then a new bill will be somewhere on his list. That is probably OK - he's not Home Secretary any more. The real problem is that the government as a whole is obsessed with party unity. They hate anyone being off-message, they think it loses votes. So when the leadership is seen to be going in one direction, everyone else must be seen to be marching in step. There has been more than one occasion where Blair said something off the cuff and it suddenly became untouchable policy. Not because there is any kind of personality cult - Labour still hasn't sunk that far, in Britain that kind of perverted loyalty is more likely to be met with among Tories - but because they have been told by generations of journalists that divided parties lose elections. So if a censorship or encryption clampdown gets into a Blair speech instead of a Straw one, and if it is allowed to become policy, or even to seem to be policy, then they will waste time getting new legislation *even* *if* *they* *know* *it* *is* *useless* because they value party unity above passing good laws. They will do this for moral reasons, because they think that if they seem disunited or weak then the Tories will win, and pass worse laws. So they do the Tories work for them. As usual they are refighting the last war with the tactics of the one before - they are still obsessed with Thatcher, desiring both to defeat her and to be like her; but most of all to stop any Tory like her ever getting into power again. In hard times the government needs to keep its eye on the ball. The sort of nonsense Straw was talking about this morning won't help anybody. It is a waste of time. He's doing a bloody good job as Foreign Secretary, he should stick to it, and forget about censorship, encryption and i.d. cards; measure which wouldn't have stopped the attack, won't stop the next one, and will waste the time and money and effort of the police and the intelligence services whilst alienating people who would in other circumstances be this government's strong supporters. They will spend billions on measures that will annoy millions of law-abiding citizens, just to make life slightly tougher for a few travellers, immigrants, rough-sleepers, and moonlighters and sad men who like to look at dirty pictures, while doing *nothing* to worry organised crime or terrorists. The weirdest thing was Boris Johnson outflanking Jack Straw on the left. Johnson was saying on the same program, that the attackers have a "conservative" frame of mind (and less relevantly that such conservatism seemed to be inherent in Islam). He at first seemed to say (or was reported as saying by the journalists) that the attackers had a fear and loathing of women which perhaps disturbed their minds, made them behave in ways that to us seem irrational or insane. Later he retracted that but called them "conservatives" (he seemed to realise the irony as he spoke), people scared of social change, of uncertainty, of the apparent disorder and liberty of Europe and America. Straw - in this context - is a conservative. He has, I think, a sincere desire, deeply and strongly felt, for order in society. He is emotionally disturbed by kids hanging around on street corners, by aggressive speech, by ranting, by travellers (I cringe with embarrassment when I remember is absurd racist nonsense about "real gypsies". That man is in the same party as me?), by illegal immigrants, by petty smuggling, by public drunkenness, by litter, by disorder and complexity and ragged edges in general. He wants to clean up all the social clutter. It is the other side of the coin from the concern for "social exclusion". He wants everyone to be socially included, and those who can't, or won't, be included are scary. He thinks we would all be happier if everyone knew their place. He's not really a nationalist, but he is a statist. He thinks security and order are the product of the state, and that without the state our lives would be nasty, brutish, and short. So the authority of the state must be preserved. For him teenagers drinking cheap cider on street corners are at the thin end of a wedge that leads to the destruction of civilisation. This kind of conservative personality (whether Islamic-conservative or New-Labour-conservative) can all too easily slide into the sort of authoritarianism that objects to unlicensed people going about their unlicensed business, that wants to force everybody not just to know their place but to keep their place, that fears unregulated speech, that hates the idea of men with no master. That thinks that the only way to stop the kids hanging about on the street corners is to tell them where they should be and make sure they stay there. That thinks that the only way of preventing us from spreading hate over the Internet or from plotting to put bombs in the House of Commons car park is to listen to everything we say. That everything that is not explicitly commanded should be forbidden. That the giving and the taking of orders is good for the soul. In British politics that sort of authoritarian personality has typically found a home in the Conservative Party (some Tories love to spout about libertarianism and free trade, but the party as a whole has been firmly grounded in blue-rinsed, nationalist, royalist, protectionist, petty deferentialism for it's entire history). But I think we are seeing the result of authoritarian entryism into the Labour Party. Boris Johnson, I hate to admit, was right. If this is a war, we aren't going to win it by capitulating. Jack Straw made a surrender speech this morning. He called for appeasement. He almost certainly has no idea that that is what he was doing. I think Straw makes a decent Foreign Secretary. Intelligent, honest, hard-working, sincere, a lover of law and the Law, the last man to go and drop bombs on people for revenge and spite. But I thank God he isn't Home Secretary any more. I honestly doubt that he is emotionally capable of understanding why some of us cannot morally put up with i.d. cards and censorship. The liberty we love seems to him to be disorder, irrationality, delusion. </rant>

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Re: Masks [was: Re: About 5yr. log retention]
by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

On Sat, Dec 09, 2000 at 10:06:03PM +0100, Anonymous wrote: > > I was unable to locate any other states with statutes addressing "mask > wearing" in public (without intent to commit burglary). No doubt the rest > of the offending rules are ordinances instead. > Also see 18 USC 242 and 42 USC 1985 for criminal and civil penalties, respectively, for "two or more persons" who "go in disguise on the highway, or on the premises of another, with intent to prevent or hinder his free exercise or enjoyment of any right or privilege" secured by the US constitution or the laws of the United States. -- Greg Broiles gbroiles(a)netbox.com PO Box 897 Oakland CA 94604

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Colossus in action
by David Hansen 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

Just in case anyone is as ill informed as me, I was delighted to read at http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/technology/7094881.stm that the rebuilt Colossus is or is about to be used on a message enciphered on a Lorenz machine and transmitted from Germany. Following the links from that page I see that the message will be "intercepted" using the radio equipment of the time before the Colossus tries to work out the settings. There will be parallel effort with modern radio equipment and computers. It should be an interesting race. I admire those who had the enthusiasm to rebuild the machine and who had the contacts to get hold of the plans and notes that remained. The last time I took a particular interest in the project, some years ago, they were trying to find the right sort of valve and had just completed the framework for hurtling paper tape round and round. - -- David Hansen, Edinburgh I will *always* explain revoked encryption keys, unless RIP prevents me http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts2000/00023--e.htm#54 ------- Message 2

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Re: Public Key Infrastructure: An Artifact...
by None 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

At 11:17 AM -0800 11/23/2000, Lynn.Wheeler(a)firstdata.com wrote: >Basically cetificates are an implementation of R/O partial replicated >distributed data that were intended to address availability of >information in a >predominately offline environment. > >In the SSL server certificates, distribution of CRLs tend to create a problem >for consumers because they aren't likely to want to see >99.99999999999999999999% >of the CRLs distributed and/or they aren't online at the time the CRLs are >distributed (and/or if done via email would create a horrible spam issue ... >every possible consumer in the world receiving email CRLs from every >possile SSL >server certificate issuing CA). Sounds like a job for Usenet. Arnold Reinhold For help on using this list (especially unsubscribing), send a message to "dcsb-request(a)reservoir.com" with one line of text: "help".

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None
by Tom 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

>"Roy M. Silvernail" wrote: >> >> A quote from http://www.thestandard.com/article/display/0,1151,20985,00.html: >> >> " Criminal organizations appear to be using the proceeds of >> IP-infringing products to facilitate a variety of enterprises, >> including guns, drugs, pornography and even terrorism. Invariably, >> when there is intellectual property crime, there is tax evasion and >> money laundering." >> >> Note that last sentence. > >she forgot to mention child abuse. Merely not mentioned in the Standard article. See: http://www.whitehouse.gov/WH/EOP/NSC/html/documents/pub45270/pub45270chap1.h tml#4

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Security Update 2002-08-02 for OpenSSL, Sun RPC, mod_ssl
by Product Security 06 Jul '18

06 Jul '18

<security-announce.lists.apple.com> List-Post: <mailto:security-announce@lists.apple.com> List-Help: <mailto:security-announce-request@lists.apple.com?subject=help> List-Subscribe: <http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce>, <mailto:security-announce-request@lists.apple.com?subject=subscribe> List-Archive: <http://www.lists.apple.com/archives/security-announce/> Date: Fri, 2 Aug 2002 15:45:34 -0700 *** PGP SIGNATURE VERIFICATION *** *** Status: Bad Signature *** Alert: Signature did not verify. Message has been altered. *** Signer: Apple Product Security <product-security(a)apple.com> (0x44E85F68) *** Signed: 08/02/2002 11:44:10 PM *** Verified: 08/03/2002 08:34:01 AM *** BEGIN PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** Security Update 2002-08-02 is now available. It contains fixes for recent vulnerabilities in: OpenSSL: Fixes security vulnerabilities CAN-2002-0656, CAN-2002-0657, CAN-2002-0655, and CAN-2002-0659. Details are available via: http://www.cert.org/advisories/CA-2002-23.html mod_ssl: Fixes CAN-2002-0653, an off-by-one buffer overflow in the mod_ssl Apache module. Details are available via: http://cve.mitre.org/cgi-bin/cvename.cgi?name=CAN-2002-0653 Sun RPC: Fixes CAN-2002-039, a buffer overflow in the Sun RPC XDR decoder. Details are available via: http://bvlive01.iss.net/issEn/delivery/xforce/alertdetail.jsp?oid=20823 Affected systems: Mac OS X client and Mac OS X Server Note: Mac OS X client is configured by default to have these services turned off, and is only vulnerable if the user has enabled network services which rely on the affected components. It is still recommended for Mac OS X client users to apply this security update to their system. System requirements: Mac OS X 10.1.5 Security Update 2002-08-02 may be obtained from: * Software Update pane in System Preferences * Apple's Software Downloads web site: http://docs.info.apple.com/article.html?artnum=120139 SSL server: https://depot.info.apple.com/security/129403bc5e184e3b7367.html To help verify the integrity of Security Update 2002-08-02 from the Software Downloads web site: The download file is titled: SecurityUpd2002-08-02.dmg Its SHA-1 digest is: 54f6eebe0398181db8f1129403bc5e184e3b7367 Information will also be posted to the Apple Product Security web site: http://www.apple.com/support/security/security_updates.html This message is signed with Apple's Product Security PGP key, and details are available at: http://www.apple.com/support/security/security_pgp.html *** END PGP VERIFIED MESSAGE *** _______________________________________________ security-announce mailing list | security-announce(a)lists.apple.com Help/Unsubscribe/Archives: http://www.lists.apple.com/mailman/listinfo/security-announce Do not post admin requests to the list. They will be ignored. --- _______________________________________________ mac_crypto mailing list mac_crypto(a)vmeng.com http://www.vmeng.com/mailman/listinfo/mac_crypto --- end forwarded text -- ----------------- R. A. Hettinga <mailto: rah(a)ibuc.com> The Internet Bearer Underwriting Corporation <http://www.ibuc.com/> 44 Farquhar Street, Boston, MA 02131 USA "... however it may deserve respect for its usefulness and antiquity, [predicting the end of the world] has not been found agreeable to experience." -- Edward Gibbon, 'Decline and Fall of the Roman Empire'

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