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GGF14 Community Program activities + proposed telecon
by Julie Wulf-Knoerzer 24 May '05

24 May '05

Dear all, As yesterday was the deadline for Community Track submissions, I wanted to provide you with the details of what we received. Attached, please find the 'for-internal-use' GGF program matrix, as well as a summary of submissions that we received. Geoffrey and I been corresponding over the past few weeks (both separately and with fellow members of the Event Steering Committee) and have determined that the submissions fell under the following categories: *WG/RG Workshops *Community Workshops *New Grid Communities *Practical Grids. Please let me know if you have issue with any of the program elements. I will be working with Joel Replogle to begin scheduling these sessions shortly. Also, I would like to schedule a Community Council telecon for the week of May 23 - agenda items forthcoming. Please let me know what day/time would work best for you: -Monday, May 23, 11:00a Central time, -Wednesday, May 25, 9:00a Central time, Thursday, May 26, 9:00a Central time. Thanks, Julie P.S. Another gentle reminder that we would like your area charter docs before June 1st. +++++++++++++++++++ ***New contact information as of 16-Feb*** Julie Wulf-Knoerzer Manager of Community Development wulf(a)ggf.org ph. 630/252-7163 fax 630/252-4466

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Fwd: Proposed Workshop at GGF
by Julie Wulf-Knoerzer 09 May '05

09 May '05

Dear all, For your review, please find a proposal for a Community Track Globus 4.0 Workshop at GGF14. Julie >Delivered-To: grdfm-communities-outgoing(a)mailbouncer.mcs.anl.gov >X-Original-To: grdfm-communities(a)mailbouncer.mcs.anl.gov >Delivered-To: grdfm-communities(a)mailbouncer.mcs.anl.gov >X-Sender: itf(a)pop.mcs.anl.gov >X-Mailer: QUALCOMM Windows Eudora Version 5.2.0.9 >Date: Fri, 06 May 2005 00:13:39 -0500 >To: communities(a)ggf.org >From: Ian Foster <foster(a)mcs.anl.gov> >Subject: Proposed Workshop at GGF >X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at >mailbouncer.mcs.anl.gov >Sender: owner-communities(a)ggf.org >X-Virus-Scanned: by amavisd-new-20030616-p10 (Debian) at >mailbouncer.mcs.anl.gov > >A) Workshop Title > >Globus Toolkit Version 4: Status and Experiences > > >B) Proposed workshop organizer names and affiliations (possibly incl. >review committee for type 2). Be sure to identify yourself if you are a >chair of an existing RG/WG. > >Organizers: Ian Foster, Argonne National Laboratory & University of Chicago >I may recruit a co-organizer or two, but I haven't done so yet! > > >C) RG/WG that will be involved (including potential RG/WGs as well as >RG/WGs up for approval). If you are proposing a workshop without being a >full RG, please provide a separate RG submission info, including candidate >RG name, charter, area, chairs, BOF descriptions, etc. > >This workshop will be coordinated with the OGSA-WG. > > >D) Scope and Content (a paragraph or two of the workshop description >to be put on the program. > >Globus Toolkit version 4 (GT4), released on April 30 2005, represents a >significant advance over earlier GT versions in terms of software quality, >functionality, and standards conformance. This workshop will provide an >opportunity for people not only to learn about GT4 but also to hear from >groups working with it. Presentations at the workshop will focus in >particular on experiences implementing and using the standards that >underlie GT4 and that in many cases form the basis for ongoing discussions >in OGSA-related working groups: the discussions of practical experiences >with Web services standards in particular may provide a useful >counterpoint to the often academic debates concerning the pros and cons of >different approaches. The discussion of GT4 experiences should also be >relevant to RGs concerned with Grid applications. > >Additional details on GT4: Quality has been a major emphasis during the 18 >month development period and in particular the 6 month alpa-beta period, >in which over 150 people participated. Functionality includes not only the >GridFTP data movement service, GRAM job submission and management service, >Reliable File Transfer service, Replica Location Service, Community >Authorization Service, OGSA Data Access and Integration, and MyProxy >services included in previous releases (although with >multiple-order-of-magnitude improvements in scalability in several cases) >but also new services such as a Workspace Management service (for dynamic >accounts), Data Replication Service, Grid Teleoperation Control Protocol >service, and an expanded set of Monitoring and Discovery services. In >terms of standards conformance, GT4 provides probably the most >full-featured implementation of Web services security available anywhere; >a full-featured GridFTP implementation; and support for the WS Resource >Framework and WS-Notification specifications in C, Java, and Python containers. > > > >E) Potential speakers for type one (invited) and possibly two >workshops. Any additional info are welcome including the title of the >talk, their abstract, etc. In fact the proposed program may be put here. > >We propose a workshop of invited talks, as follows: > >GT4 Introduction (90 mins) -- largely Globus Alliance members > Overview (30 mins) > Implementation of Web Services Standards (15) > Performance (15) > Future directions (15) > Related Tools (15) >Early Experiences with GT4 (90 mins) -- members of the Globus user community > China Grid (15) > GridCast, Belfast (15) > Intel (15) > Condor-G and GriPhyN (15) > Discussion (30) > > >F) Past History of hosting a similar workshop inside or outside GGF. > >I co-organized the Designing and Building Grid Services workshop, and have >organized other meetings. > > >G) Duration of workshop half day (2-3 slots incl. Breaks) or whole day >(4-5 slots) > >Half day: 2 x 90 mins > >H) Estimated # of participants (if possible) > >100 > >I) Publication Plans --- please indicate if you have plan to >publish the workshop result with a certain publisher. If left out we will >assume that the workshop product will be a GGF Informational Document. > >We will prepare a brief report summarizing the content of the workshop and >discussion. +++++++++++++++++++ ***New contact information as of 16-Feb*** Julie Wulf-Knoerzer Manager of Community Development wulf(a)ggf.org ph. 630/252-7163 fax 630/252-4466

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GGF News
by Julie Wulf-Knoerzer 05 May '05

05 May '05

Hi all, Yesterday, GGF launched it's new web site containing a 'News' section (we had one before, but it was not maintained as frequently as we had hoped). I wonder if you might be able to help me by identifying someone in your region who disseminates Grid news or Grid 'tidbits' on a regular basis (either from different websites, news articles, or other means). Do people like this even exist? Any insight is appreciated. Julie +++++++++++++++++++ ***New contact information as of 16-Feb*** Julie Wulf-Knoerzer Manager of Community Development wulf(a)ggf.org ph. 630/252-7163 fax 630/252-4466

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RE: [CCGT] RE: [gfsg] Fwd: Community Council Agenda items - April 5 Meeting
by Malcolm Atkinson 02 May '05

02 May '05

Charlie, That was my understanding from the call and subsequent events call. i.e. it is approved in my view. Malcolm >-----Original Message----- >From: Satoshi Matsuoka [mailto:matsu@is.titech.ac.jp] >Sent: 29 April 2005 21:54 >To: Charlie Catlett >Cc: matsu(a)is.titech.ac.jp; Malcolm Atkinson; ccgt(a)ggf.org >Subject: Re: [CCGT] RE: [gfsg] Fwd: Community Council Agenda >items - April 5 Meeting > >Charlie, > >I think it was approved. If we are operating under an older model then >it is either Dennis's or my duty to inform you. But since we are >operating in an interum model where the scheduling decisions are being >made by the organizers (Jule) and the decision is collective >amongst the >community council, where we seem to have unanimous agreement, >I judge it >is safe to assume that the workshop is officially approved and you are >ready to proceed. > > Satoshi (M) > > >On Thu, 28 Apr 2005 11:45:10 -0500 >Charlie Catlett <catlett(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: > >catlett> Well, it's interesting for me to approach GGF from >outside of the >catlett> walls of power. :-) As I'm the one who approved all of the >catlett> gauntlets and triplicate forms I certainly have no >one else to blame! >catlett> >catlett> I need to get an answer on this more or less >immediately, however, so >catlett> can I get an official yes or no this week? I'm >assuming since Julie >catlett> contacted me about scheduling that we are going to >get our visa >catlett> approved. >catlett> >catlett> I spoke with Peter Arzberger (leads the PRAGMA >group) and asked him >catlett> to recruit 1 or 2 Asian co-chairs for the workshop - >he will be >catlett> pouring over the background information while on his >flight to >catlett> Singapore tonight for the PRAGMA meeting there. >catlett> >catlett> Next Monday I will hop on a plane to London, where >I'll see Tony Hey >catlett> on Tuesday and Wednesday at the GridToday industry >summit. I >catlett> mentioned this workshop to him in early April and he >was interested, >catlett> so I am hoping next week to get an eScience person >to help co-chair. >catlett> >catlett> But my local co-chairs (Nancy WIlkins-Diehr from >SDSC and Sebastien >catlett> Goasguen from Purdue are doing the real work, though >the list >catlett> includes myself, Dennis and Ian Foster) are getting >nervous about >catlett> running out of time to organize and advertise. >catlett> >catlett> This last point is important, because the workshop >really is being >catlett> proposed to address GGF's community aspirations - to >get more folks >catlett> involved who would not normally already be coming to GGF. >catlett> >catlett> Thanks- >catlett> CeC >catlett> >catlett> >catlett> At 9:48 PM +0100 4/25/05, Malcolm Atkinson wrote: >catlett> >Sorry Charlie to have been so demanding - that all >looks great to me. I >catlett> >never doubted that it would be. I partly posed the >questions to see if >catlett> >the old GROC criteria (which I had used in my >judgements) were still the >catlett> >ones GFSG would support. >catlett> > >catlett> >Malcolm >catlett> > >catlett> > >catlett> > >-----Original Message----- >catlett> > >From: Charlie Catlett [mailto:catlett@mcs.anl.gov] >catlett> > >Sent: 18 April 2005 16:27 >catlett> > >To: matsu(a)is.titech.ac.jp; Malcolm Atkinson >catlett> > >Cc: ccgt(a)ggf.org >catlett> > >Subject: Re: [gfsg] Fwd: Community Council Agenda items - >catlett> > >April 5 Meeting >catlett> > > >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>mpa> I read all three workshop proposals. >catlett> > >>mpa> The questions look like the old GROC ones, >and I notice >catlett> > >that Charlie >catlett> > >>mpa> didn't answer them and that the health grid only >catlett> > >answered some of them. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Ah, sorry I didn't run the GROC approval >gauntlet correctly - we >catlett> > >spend several hours in Seoul talking about how >to get additional >catlett> > >communities engaged in GGF and this was in >direct response to that >catlett> > >GFSG discussion. I did not realize I still >needed to fill out the >catlett> > >GROC forms in triplicate. :-) >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Appended is my response to Malcolm's two (not >focused on one group; >catlett> > >publication). Here is my official GROC application form: >catlett> > > >catlett> > >A) Workshop Title >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Science Gateways: Exploring Common Interfaces, >Policies and >catlett> > >Interactions between Grid Resources and Science >Communities >catlett> > > >catlett> > >B) Proposed workshop organizer names and >affiliations (possibly >catlett> > >incl. review committee for type 2). Be sure to >identify yourself if >catlett> > >you are a chair of an existing RG/WG. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Catlett (UC/ANL), Gannon (IU), Foster (UC/ANL), >Wilkins-Diehr (UCSD), >catlett> > >Goasguen (Purdue) >catlett> > >Have requested contacts from Tony Hey and >Satoshi Matsuoka for people >catlett> > >doing similar work elsewhere to help organize. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >C) RG/WG that will be involved (including >potential RG/WGs as >catlett> > >well as RG/WGs up for approval). If you are >proposing a workshop >catlett> > >without being a full RG, please provide a >separate RG submission >catlett> > >info, including candidate RG name, charter, >area, chairs, BOF >catlett> > >descriptions, etc. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >This workshop does not involve a particular >RG/WG - it is intended to >catlett> > >bring in new communities. However, we expect >that some from the Life >catlett> > >Sciences RG and GCE RG will participate. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >D) Scope and Content (a paragraph or two of >the workshop >catlett> > >description to be put on the program. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Provided already >catlett> > > >catlett> > >E) Potential speakers for type one >(invited( and possibly two >catlett> > >workshops. Any additional info are welcome >including the title of the >catlett> > >talk, their abstract, etc. In fact the proposed >program may be put >catlett> > >here. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >We will have 4-6 presentations from people who >are building, or have >catlett> > >built, science gateways (portals or application >software that >catlett> > >provides Grid resources to scientists). Three >will be from the >catlett> > >TeraGrid project, three from other projects as >we find them (we are >catlett> > >actively seeking). >catlett> > > >catlett> > >There will be 4-6 presentations regarding key >technology/policy >catlett> > >issues such as authentication and authorization, >web services >catlett> > >implementation strategies, etc. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >F) Past History of hosting a similar >workshop inside or >catlett> > >outside GGF. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Catlett, Foster and Gannon have pretty good track record >catlett> > >right there... >catlett> > > >catlett> > >G) Duration of workshop - half day (2-3 >slots incl. Breaks) or >catlett> > >whole day (4-5 slots) >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Whole day >catlett> > > >catlett> > >H) Estimated # of participants (if possible) >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Unsure - probably 100-150 >catlett> > > >catlett> > >I) Publication Plans --- please indicate >if you have plan to >catlett> > >publish the workshop result with a certain >publisher. If left out we >catlett> > >will assume that the workshop product will be a >GGF Informational >catlett> > >Document. >catlett> > > >catlett> > >GGF informational >catlett> > > >catlett> > > >catlett> > >CeC >catlett> > > >catlett> > >>Date: Sun, 10 Apr 2005 22:50:08 -0500 >catlett> > >>To: matsu(a)is.titech.ac.jp, Charlie Catlett ><catlett(a)mcs.anl.gov>, >catlett> > >>Dennis Gannon <gannon(a)cs.indiana.edu> >catlett> > >>From: Charlie Catlett <catlett(a)mcs.anl.gov> >catlett> > >>Subject: Re: [CCGT] Science Gateways workshop background >catlett> > >>Cc: matsu(a)is.titech.ac.jp, ccgt(a)ggf.org >catlett> > >>Bcc: >catlett> > >>X-Attachments: >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>Hi- >catlett> > >>The purpose of the workshop is to bring >together folks who are >catlett> > >>trying to bring Grid capabilities to a >particular science community >catlett> > >>(atmospheric scientists, chemists, >bioinformatics folks, etc.), and >catlett> > >>who are looking to use web services and/or web >portals to do so. I >catlett> > >>am seeing these communities moving out ahead of >GGF or the "grid" >catlett> > >>experts or "portal" experts. This is creating >a danger that those >catlett> > >>of us running Grids or Grid resources will have >a chaotic situation >catlett> > >>where our key commmunities will each want to >set up an ad-hoc >catlett> > >>interaction mode with us to serve their >communities. One will want >catlett> > >>to use group accounts and another will want to >install a custom >catlett> > >>daemon on our machines. Another will want to >use web services and >catlett> > >>another will want .NET. >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>The draft I circulated was a first cut at >understanding what 10 >catlett> > >>communities are trying to build, and all ten >want to access Grid >catlett> > >>resources in TeraGrid. Some are also building >their own Grids, and >catlett> > >>all would like to also access Grid resources in >the UK or Japan. >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>The idea of this workshop is to bring these >consumers together with >catlett> > >>one another and with producers to see if there >are some things we >catlett> > >>might agree on that can be implemented to nudge >them toward some >catlett> > >>common solutions. Now, some TeraGrid folks >have made some headway >catlett> > >>in looking at this and I would like to broaden >that discussion to >catlett> > >>others who are doing similar things (or should >be). To this end I >catlett> > >>asked Tony Hey last week to put me in touch >with the right person or >catlett> > >>persons from the UK, and would like similar >contacts from Japan >catlett> > >>(Satoshi please suggest) and elsewhere. >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>I don't see this as a TeraGrid-centric activity >- we don't need GGF >catlett> > >>to do that. We need GGF to help us broaden the >effort by helping us >catlett> > >>reach other communities. >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>So I would expect to do a call for >participation not to the producer >catlett> > >>community (GCE-RG, GGF typical producer >population, portal experts), >catlett> > >>though it would be good for them to >participate, but to the consumer >catlett> > >>community. I.e. those who don't really care >that much about >catlett> > >>standards or web services or grid technology >other than that they >catlett> > >>want to use them to serve their customers doing science. >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>The draft I circulated would be used to >structure the workshop, get >catlett> > >>input from more consumer groups, get producer >groups to talk about >catlett> > >>how they are addressing these issues, and then >update the document >catlett> > >>as a GGF informational document. >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>CeC >catlett> > >> >catlett> > >>At 2:21 AM +0900 4/10/05, Satoshi Matsuoka wrote: >catlett> > >>>Charlie, Dennis, >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>I agree on its viability, but still Malcolm's >concern that it be a >catlett> > >>>TeraGrid-only centric event will have to be >considered. Here is a >catlett> > >>>(form) letter, >catlett> > >>>and with proper fulfillment of the workshop >template and widespread >catlett> > >>>solicitation to key portal groups in EU as >well as AP, hopefully the >catlett> > >>>concern will be addressed. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>(form letter is attached below) >catlett> > >>> > Satoshi >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>---- >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>On Fri, 8 Apr 2005 15:52:37 -0500 >catlett> > >>>Charlie Catlett <catlett(a)mcs.anl.gov> wrote: >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>catlett> Friends- >catlett> > >>>catlett> Since the proposal I sent regarding >this workshop >catlett> > >mentioned a group >catlett> > >>>catlett> in TeraGrid that was aiming to have a document >catlett> > >drafted in March I >catlett> > >>>catlett> wanted to send it to you. It's very >preliminary, >catlett> > >but it shows that >catlett> > >>>catlett> the group is serious and already getting work >catlett> > >done. I expect an >catlett> > >>>catlett> iteration on this document within a few weeks >catlett> > >since it was discussed >catlett> > >>>catlett> in great detail during several sessions of the >catlett> > >TeraGrid all-hands >catlett> > >>>catlett> meeting earlier this week. I think >this workshop >catlett> > >will be very >catlett> > >>>catlett> important to the community. My hope >is that it will bring >catlett> > >>>in some of >catlett> > >>>catlett> the less-involved sectors of the community >catlett> > >including people who are: >catlett> > >>>catlett> >catlett> > >>>catlett> - building portals for scientific communities >catlett> > >>>catlett> - implementing web services on resources in >catlett> > >operational grids >catlett> > >>>catlett> - developing operational policies and >mechanisms >catlett> > >for varying degrees >catlett> > >>>catlett> of authorization (from full access >shell accounts >catlett> > >to restricted >catlett> > >>>catlett> service invocations) based on varying >degrees of >catlett> > >>>authentication (from >catlett> > >>>catlett> highly trusted authentication to >anonymous access) >catlett> > >>>catlett> - trying to make multiple grids work >together, etc. >catlett> > >>>catlett> >catlett> > >>>catlett> CeC >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>----- >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Charlie, Dennis, >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Thanks for yoru workshop proposal for the >workshop proposal >catlett> > >>>"Science Gateways Portals Workshop". >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>I am sending this email as the current GROC >co-chair and >catlett> > >also on behalf >catlett> > >>>of the newly proposed community council. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>As a part of transitional activity of GGF governance to >catlett> > >strengthen the >catlett> > >>>community activities, the GFSG and the >proposed community council >catlett> > >>>therein will be taking active responsibility >in workshop >catlett> > >oversight. In >catlett> > >>>the light of this we have decided to provide >active dialogs to the >catlett> > >>>workshop organizers to help strengthen the >organizational process as >catlett> > >>>well as its exterior outreach. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Please re-distribute this email to other >organizers as well >catlett> > >as anybody >catlett> > >>>else involved in your workshop organization. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Since time is short till GGF14, I am accelerating the >catlett> > >process by sending >catlett> > >>>you comment(s) already made. As you see, >although you have solid >catlett> > >>>backings, and the workshop is accepted in principle, >catlett> > >nevertheless as you >catlett> > >>>see the comments below indicate that there is room for >catlett> > >improvement in >catlett> > >>>the proposal. I hope you could make the >initial revisions >catlett> > >by reflect the >catlett> > >>>comments as you see fit, and send to the (proposed) >catlett> > >community council >catlett> > >>>the revised version in about a week's time >(around April >catlett> > >15th). In the >catlett> > >>>meantime as additional comments come along, >which will be >catlett> > >forwarded to >catlett> > >>>you if deemed helpful in the improvement, and >if you make >catlett> > >improvements >catlett> > >>>as well, please let us know where you would >like to do so. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Also please note that the primary intention >for this is that we will >catlett> > >>>want to allow some of the workshop to be a >catlett> > >>>academically viable and recognizable activity >from not only >catlett> > >within the >catlett> > >>>Grid community but from other CS communities. >Thus, we would like >catlett> > >>>to push on external communication of the >workshop, both in terms of >catlett> > >>>the content as well as the viability of its >organizational >catlett> > >manners. It >catlett> > >>>is NOT intended to increase bureacratic >stronghold of GFSG and the >catlett> > >>>community council therein over the research groups. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>To quote one community council member: "I am passionate >catlett> > >about the high >catlett> > >>>value of good workshops: they stimulate, they >inform, they build >catlett> > >>>communities, they cross-fertilise and they >recognise the >catlett> > >need for new >catlett> > >>>lines of work. Without workshops I think GGF >would drift >catlett> > >towards narrow >catlett> > >>>technical nit-picking standards. The value of >workshops is much >catlett> > >>>diminished if the only effects are on those at the >catlett> > >workshop. Hence the >catlett> > >>>demand for publication and publicity." >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>I hope the new (proposed) community council >can fruitfully >catlett> > >work with the >catlett> > >>>workshop organizers to fulfill such desires, >to have you >catlett> > >host a high-quality >catlett> > >>>and a productive workshop. Looking forward to the >catlett> > >>>revised proposal as well as the workshop >itself. Thanks. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>> Best Regards, >catlett> > >>> Satoshi Matsuoka >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Comment 1: >catlett> > >>>=== >catlett> > >>>The Science Portals workshop looks a good >topic, and we can >catlett> > >trust Dennis >catlett> > >>>and Charlie will run an excellent workshop. >However, we >catlett> > >need to take >catlett> > >>>care that it doesn't become TeraGrid centred >or US centred. >catlett> > > We should >catlett> > >>>see others, from Asian grids and European >grids engaged in >catlett> > >planning / >catlett> > >>>presenting IMHO. I can find some, but the >recent week on >catlett> > >portals at eSI >catlett> > >>>led by Jason Navotny has a good list of names >catlett> > >>>>(http://www.nesc.ac.uk/action/esi/contribution.cfm?Title=549) >catlett> > >>>particularly UK ones. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>I would also suggest Roberto Barbera from >Catania, bringing >catlett> > >experience >catlett> > >>>on EGEE's use of the GENIUS portal Roberto Barbera >catlett> > >>><roberto.barbera(a)ct.infn.it> >https://genius.ct.infn.it/. >catlett> > >We have used >catlett> > >>>it extensively for traiining and (with GILDA) >for new user community >catlett> > >>>induction. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>What is the planned model of communication? >What should it >catlett> > >not clash >catlett> > >>>with? ... >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>I vote for accept, but push on broadening, getting >catlett> > >questions answered >catlett> > >>>and publication plan. >catlett> > >>>=== >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Comment 2 (general): >catlett> > >>>=== >catlett> > >>>I think we might encourage more substantial publication >catlett> > >such as journal >catlett> > >>>special issues so as to give greater credit to >(academic) >catlett> > >participants >catlett> > >>>However in general I think we should let each >workshop make >catlett> > >its choice as >catlett> > >>>"external outreach, publication and publicity" >which should exist in >catlett> > >>>some fashion >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>=== >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Comment 3: (Satoshi) >catlett> > >>>=== >catlett> > >>>There are several groups in AP working on >"Science Gateway" Portals, >catlett> > >>>including those in Japan and Korea, and those >should be contacted. >catlett> > >>>For example, AIST-GTRC has a PSE Builder effort, and >catlett> > >NAREGI's WP3/6 are >catlett> > >>>working on high-level portals interface. >Korea's K* Grid has several >catlett> > >>>efforts in those regard. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>Perhaps the best method is to do a call-out throught >catlett> > >pragma, with help >catlett> > >>>from Peter Artzburger @ San Diego. By all means it is >catlett> > >important to make >catlett> > >>>the intentions clear so that not all the Grid >portals on >catlett> > >earth will try >catlett> > >>>to participate and ask for a time slot. >catlett> > >>> >catlett> > >>>--------- >catlett> > > >catlett> > > >catlett> > >Satoshi Matsuoka, Professor >Global Scientific Information and Computing Center > & Dept. of Mathematical and Computing Sciences >Tokyo Institute of Technology >Address: 2-12-1 Oo-okayama, Meguro-ku, Tokyo 152-8552 Japan >Tel&fax: +81-3-5734-3876 E-mail: matsu(a)acm.org, >matsu(a)is.titech.ac.jp > >

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