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Survey for OGSA-WG F2F meeting in January 2006
by Hiro Kishimoto 11 Dec '05

11 Dec '05

Hi all, and sorry for the cross-posting. As you already know, OGSA-WG and fellow WGs are planning to have F2F meeting in January 2006. The meeting will be held in the week of January 16 from Monday morning to Friday noon at Fujitsu campus in Sunnyvale (SF Bay Area). Please let us know your plan for attendance by answering the following on-line survey. Deadline is EoB December 21st. http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB224URW95UZU Session owners: Please provide detailed session agenda, I will incorporate your in the meeting schedule. The latest proposed agenda for January OGSA-WG and the fellow WGs F2F meeting is uploaded to the GridForge. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/2006Jan-OGSA-F2F-agen… Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Teleconference minutes - Dec 7
by Sachiko Wada 08 Dec '05

08 Dec '05

Hi team, Here is the minutes of today's teleconf. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20051207/en/1 Sachiko ======================================================================= ACS Teleconference ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Dec 7 19:10-19:45 EST 2005 / Dec 8 9:10-9:45 JST 2005 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Peter Ziu (Northrop) Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - minutes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * GGF16 session GGF16 will be held February 13-16, 2006, in Athens. Mike and Pete may not attend. Keisuke will attend GGF16 and the following OGSA F2F meeting. The deadline for WG session requests is next week. The following are the ideas for the session: Express your idea on the ML. - Explain the specification and gather comments from attendees. - Promotion of the ACS specification. - Interaction with EMS. * Next meeting Date: Dec 14 Wed 19:00 EST/Dec 15 Thu 9:00 JST Calling #: will be announced later # Another date may be arranged if it is inconvenient for Mike and Tom.

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Teleconference minutes - Nov 30
by Sachiko Wada 06 Dec '05

06 Dec '05

Hi team, Here is the minutes of the last teleconf. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20051130/en/1 Sachiko ======================================================================= ACS Teleconference ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Nov 30 19:05-20:10 EST 2005 / Dec 1 9:05-10:10 JST 2005 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Peter Ziu (Northrop) Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - minutes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Updates - SDD TC status SDD TC face to face meeting was held in Santa Clara, CA, Nov. 14-16. Tom and Keisuke attended the meeting. There was a discussion about already collected requirements, which were classified to 17 categories. The TC continues discussion to sort out and shape up the requirements. All documents are available from the SDD TC site: http://www.oasis-open.org/committees/documents.php?wg_abbrev=sdd We are expecting closer relationship with SCC TC. Joshua Allen of Macrovision showed particular interest in ACS. The updated schedule for their schedule is to be discussed yet. SDD refers IUDD spec which was submitted to the W3C as 'Member Submission', so we may prepare comments to the SDD based on the IUDD spec. - From now on We submitted our first draft to the GGF Editors and we are waiting for the response from them. Below is the current projection, though it depends on when the Editor review finishes. [Projection] Nov 10 Submission to the GGF editor (Done!) End Nov. Comments from GGF editor received. Early Dec. Comments are addressed and returned. Mid Dec. 60 day public review starts. End Feb. review comments are collected. Mid Mar. updated draft is returned to GGF editor. End Mar. approval by GGF. - Next Step Below are the candidate action items for the next step from Keisuke: + Open issues described in the "Spec. 1.0". + OGSA EMS discussion - catch up and join the discussion (GGF16 in Feb. and combined OGSA F2F) + Giving assistance and get feedback from reference implementations. + VM (Virtual Machine) image management for Xen or VMware Since VM can contribute to a final granularity management of OS, VM could be a finer and more effective hosting environment of Grid applications, especially in terms of security and deployment. VM implementation is out of scope of Grid standardization, but we may be able to contribute to some of the aspects how VM needs to be operated. For example, a snapshot image could be managed as a ACS archive, which is automatically generated by management tools. + Deployment automation research (opsware, DCML, install servers, etc..) Action: All, to list up action items to be discussed and send them to the ML. * Next meeting Date & Time: will be announced later. Keisuke will ask Tom his preferred schedule.

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[Fwd: [gf-chairs] GGF16 Group Session Request period is now open!]
by Keisuke Fukui 05 Dec '05

05 Dec '05

Folks, We will cover the GGF16 session plan on the next call, too. If someone may not be able to attend, please post your idea here. I think we may discuss about: - public comments on ACS Spec. 1.0 - assistance to and feedbacks from reference implementations - relationship to other standard activities In addition, we may consider about the presentation to the audience. Be there and share your idea! -Keisuke

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[Fwd: [acs-wg] Agenda for the Call on Nov 30 Wed 19:00 EST/ Dec 1 Thu 9:00 JST]
by Keisuke Fukui 01 Dec '05

01 Dec '05

Hi Tom, I regret that we missed you in today's meeting. I hope that we have a meeting once at this occasion to discuss our future plan in the presence of all active members. If you can suggest your preference on time and date for the meeting, we will have one in addition to, or in place of the regular call. I understand that now is the busy time for you to drive your TC, so if you need defer this for some time, we can wait for it. In any case, if your contribution about the topics via e-mail is very much welcomed, too. I hope you can find some time to do some of this. I'll keep in touch with you. -Keisuke Keisuke Fukui wrote: > Folks, > > Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! > > ### Proposed Agenda > 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) > 3. Updates (10 min) > - SDD TC status KF and Tom > 4. From now on (20 min) > - Fact and Projection > Nov 10 Submission to the GGF editor (Done!) > End Nov. Comments from GGF editor received. > Early Dec. Comments are addressed and returned. > Mid Dec. 60 day public review starts. > End Feb. review comments are collected. > Mid Mar. updated draft is returned to GGF editor. > End Mar. approval by GGF. > - Candidate action items for the next step > + Open issues described in the "Spec. 1.0" (See below) > + OGSA EMS discussion - catch up and join the discussion > (GGF16 in Feb. and combined OGSA F2F) > + Giving assistance and get feedback from reference implementations: > NAREGI, Business Grid, Mike, etc. > + VM (Virtual Machine) image management for Xen or VMware > + Deployment automation research (opsware, DCML, install servers, > etc..) > - FYI, below is the items in the Open issues in the ACS Spec. 1.0: > + The relationship to the outcomes from the on-going OASIS SDD TC > activities should be discussed once after the XML Schema for > their deployment descriptor is published. Interoperability need > to be considered. > + More extensive or detailed Resource Properties for > ApplicationRepository and ApplicationArchive may be explored and > be a part of the specification. > + For the retrieval of the version history, the ACS repository may > store an entire tree of the sequence may be maintained and > provided for the users, while this version only maintain the > links to the parent and children. > + More features that assist the replication of AAs may be explored > in accordance with the on-going discussion in the other standard > activities. > Goal: Find the work items while the reviews by GGF editor and public > comment > take place. Meeting schedules? > 4. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) > > Total: 40 min > > ### Logistics for the call > Date & Time: Nov 30 Wed 19:00 EST/Dec 1 Thu 9:00 JST > Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Lake Park, IA) > Participant Access Code: 7771111 > > -Keisuke > > >

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Agenda for the Call on Nov 30 Wed 19:00 EST/ Dec 1 Thu 9:00 JST
by Keisuke Fukui 30 Nov '05

30 Nov '05

Folks, Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! ### Proposed Agenda 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 3. Updates (10 min) - SDD TC status KF and Tom 4. From now on (20 min) - Fact and Projection Nov 10 Submission to the GGF editor (Done!) End Nov. Comments from GGF editor received. Early Dec. Comments are addressed and returned. Mid Dec. 60 day public review starts. End Feb. review comments are collected. Mid Mar. updated draft is returned to GGF editor. End Mar. approval by GGF. - Candidate action items for the next step + Open issues described in the "Spec. 1.0" (See below) + OGSA EMS discussion - catch up and join the discussion (GGF16 in Feb. and combined OGSA F2F) + Giving assistance and get feedback from reference implementations: NAREGI, Business Grid, Mike, etc. + VM (Virtual Machine) image management for Xen or VMware + Deployment automation research (opsware, DCML, install servers, etc..) - FYI, below is the items in the Open issues in the ACS Spec. 1.0: + The relationship to the outcomes from the on-going OASIS SDD TC activities should be discussed once after the XML Schema for their deployment descriptor is published. Interoperability need to be considered. + More extensive or detailed Resource Properties for ApplicationRepository and ApplicationArchive may be explored and be a part of the specification. + For the retrieval of the version history, the ACS repository may store an entire tree of the sequence may be maintained and provided for the users, while this version only maintain the links to the parent and children. + More features that assist the replication of AAs may be explored in accordance with the on-going discussion in the other standard activities. Goal: Find the work items while the reviews by GGF editor and public comment take place. Meeting schedules? 4. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) Total: 40 min ### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Nov 30 Wed 19:00 EST/Dec 1 Thu 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Lake Park, IA) Participant Access Code: 7771111 -Keisuke

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RE: [Fwd: Re: [acs-wg] Teleconference minutes - Nov 9]
by Ziu, Peter 23 Nov '05

23 Nov '05

Sounds best. Pete. -----Original Message----- From: owner-acs-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-acs-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Keisuke Fukui Sent: Monday, November 21, 2005 11:47 PM To: acs-wg(a)ggf.org Subject: Re: [Fwd: Re: [acs-wg] Teleconference minutes - Nov 9] Folks, I learned that ogsa-wg call and oasis sdd tc call are canceled on Wednesday this week. Though I got positive responses from you for the call on this Wednesday evenings, I will propose skipping it and push the agenda to the next week unless anyone prefer to have it this week. Please let me know if the next week doesn't work for you. Happy thanks giving! -Keisuke Keisuke Fukui (on the road) wrote: > Forwarding a messages from Pete. He'll be there at the next meeting. > > Ziu, Peter wrote: > >> Ah, no meeting tomorrow, I am sorry, I missed that in my last response. >> No problem for next Wed. >> >> Pete. >> >

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[Fwd: Re: [acs-wg] Teleconference minutes - Nov 9]
by Keisuke Fukui (on the road) 21 Nov '05

21 Nov '05

Forwarding a messages from Pete. He'll be there at the next meeting. Ziu, Peter wrote: > Ah, no meeting tomorrow, I am sorry, I missed that in my last response. > No problem for next Wed. > > Pete. > >

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RE: [acs-wg] Teleconference minutes - Nov 9
by Ziu, Peter 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Keisuke / Hiro, My apologies for not always getting my regrets to you both in time. Normally Wednesdays for ACS and Mons. and Weds. for OGSA are fine with me. This coming Wed (Tomorrow EST) I do have visitors staying at my house, and have to pick them up some time after work. I am unsure when I will be free, but will make every effort to make the calls. Pete. -----Original Message----- From: owner-acs-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-acs-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Keisuke Fukui (on the road) Sent: Tuesday, November 15, 2005 12:15 PM To: Pete Ziu Cc: acs-wg(a)ggf.org Subject: Re: [acs-wg] Teleconference minutes - Nov 9 Pete, et al., I talked to Tom and he said that Wednesday is fine and he will join the meeting next week. Do you have a preference on day of the week for the tele-conferences? We will review the plan after the ACS Spec. 1.0 in the call next week. We won't have one tomorrow. -Keisuke Sachiko Wada wrote: > * Next meeting > Date & Time: will be announced later > Note: we agreed to skip next week. > Keisuke will ask Tom and Pete whether they have preferences for the teleconf > schedule. Mike and Sachiko have no preference. >

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Teleconference minutes - Nov 9
by Sachiko Wada 15 Nov '05

15 Nov '05

Hi team, Here is the minutes of the last teleconf. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20051109/en/1 Sachiko ======================================================================= ACS Teleconference ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Nov 9 19:05-19:40 EST 2005 / Nov 10 9:05-19:40 JST, 2005 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Peter Ziu (Northrop) - regrets Michael Behrens (R2AD) Sachiko Wada (ASCADE) - minutes ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Projection of the process for ACS Spec. 1.0 Keisuke will submit the draft to the GGF editor today. [Projection] End Nov. Comments from GGF editor received. Early Dec. Comments are addressed and returned. Mid Dec. 60 day public review starts. End Feb. review comments are collected. Mid Mar. updated draft is returned to GGF editor. End Mar. approval by GGF. * Updates and From now on - Keisuke will attend the OASIS SDD TC Face-to-face meeting at the week of Nov 14. SDD has started refining use cases they gathered, which contain about 150 items. It is expected to have a set of baseline requirements at the end of the meeting. How the spec details will be, i.e. how it will be different from the original IUDD spec, is still vague, so it is not yet the time to start discussion about relationship with ACS. - Mike reported the joint EMS discussion at the OGSA telconf on Nov 9. One of the main issues related to ACS is where RSS expects to be able to get information from in order to generate a candidate set of deployment target. It could be ACS or Information Service. This discussion will continue, and we are going to be get more involved in them after we release our first specification. - We agreed to do a brainstorming about the remained issues from now on. - Meta data Mike suggested that AA instance to have resource property to describe meta data of application and that kind of information may be added dynamically after AA instance is created using the WSRF operations. - Relationship with SDD TC. - Relationship with OGSA-EMS. - Reference implementation. We may expect the feedback from Business Grid Project team. Mike also has plan to develop implementation of ACS. * Next meeting Date & Time: will be announced later Note: we agreed to skip next week. Keisuke will ask Tom and Pete whether they have preferences for the teleconf schedule. Mike and Sachiko have no preference.

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