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Your comments on the draft spec.
by Keisuke Fukui 13 Oct '05

13 Oct '05

Hello Pete, How is it going? We hope that we finish the version 1.0 in this month to make us released for the further step toward 2.0 and EMS discussions. So here are something for you to make it happen:-) I need clarifications for some of your comments seen in the draft 0.51 that we have reviewed at GGF15 sessions. --------------------------------------------------------------- In the section "3.1.4 Relationship between AA and Job" (Page 14), you left the comment "D10" below: Perhaps we could say a unit of “configuration management” We didn't see problem here in the review at GGF15. Can you elaborate on this a bit more? --------------------------------------------------------------- Is the current description for section "4.5 replication" good to you? If you have more to add, please let us review and merge it to the current one. --------------------------------------------------------------- I will appreciate it very much if you briefly address to the above here. I'm sorry for bothering you this time. Thanks in advance!! -Keisuke

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GGF15 minutes
by Sachiko Wada 13 Oct '05

13 Oct '05

Hi team, Here are the minutes of the GGF15 sessions. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. I will upload the minutes to the gridforge later. Sachiko ====================================================================== GGF15 ACS Session #1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Oct 5 14:00-15:30 EDT 2005 Lead: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Notes: Sachiko Wada (Ascade) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We reviewed the ACS specification version 0.51. https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/draft-ggf-acs-spec-0.5… * TOC no comments (Chapter 1 and 2 was pushed after the rest of the draft.) * Chapter 3 We reviewed chapter 3 in the draft and OGSA EMS section posted by Mike. The comments from Pete and Sachiko and TBD items are covered and addressed in the draft. ACTION: - Mike, to reconfirm about comment D10 to Pete. (section 3.1.4) - Mike, to draw diagram for section 3.1.4 which describes multiple job creation from a single AA. Issues: - Consider if the digest values can be used to verify cached reference. ====================================================================== GGF15 ACS Session #2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Oct 5 18:00-19:30 EDT 2005 Lead: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Notes: Sachiko Wada (Ascade) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ We continued reviewing the ACS specification. * Chapter 3 (continued) We continued reviewing chapter 3. Hiro sent comments on section 3.3.4 and we adopted the comments. ACTION: - Mike, to change the diagram simpler since we need not describe whole EMS architecture. (section 3.3.4) Issues: - Revisit comment S18 and S20. (section 3.2.2) - Decide how we can address to the naming issues in the draft, i.e. which of the WS-Name or EPR to be used. OGSA seems to be moving to use WS-Name instead of EPR but have not reach consensus yet. * Chapter 4 ACTION: - Mike, to confirm to Pete weather the description of section 4.5 replication is sufficient. * Chapter 5 Steve suggested specifying an ACS Fault type as base of other faults. Stuart suggested that whole tree structure of AAs should be retrieved from Application Repository. Currently users of ACS can retrieve the immediate parent and children of an AA. ACTION: - Mike, to rephrase the Steve's suggestion as an remained issue in ACS-WG. - Mike, to rephrase the Stuart's suggestion as an remained issue in ACS-WG. Issues: - Detailed discussion about resource properties. Should we add manageability properties ? This is related Manageability section. - TBD remained that whether we should use getAAD instead of GetResourceProperty in order to retrieve AAD. - Make clear that who (ApplicationRepository or ApplicationArchive) sends the Notification when AA is created and updated. The list of the changes to the draft will be posted later. Also, the updated version of the draft will be uploaded to the document manager. The review of the remained chapters will be continued on the tele-conferences aiming at the submission by the end of October.

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[Fwd: Meeting notes from the CDDLM meeting, Wed 10/12/2006, at 6am PST]
by Keisuke Fukui 12 Oct '05

12 Oct '05

FYI, for those who didn't get this.

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Agenda for the Call on Oct 12 Wed 20:00 EDT/Oct 13 Thu 9:00 JST
by Keisuke Fukui 12 Oct '05

12 Oct '05

Folks, Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! ### Proposed Agenda 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 2. Review of the proposed contents for section "3.3 Relationship to other activities". (5 min for each; 15 min) - Review the drafts if available. 3.3.1 OASIS SDD TC - Tom 3.3.4 OGSA Data WG – Mike, Pete 3.3.5 OASIS WSDM TC - Tom Goal: Find if we can merge these into the final draft. 3. Review of the proposed draft for the chapter 7 then 1 and 2 in the draft 0.51.(60 min) - Chapter 7. Application Archive Format - Chapter 1. Introduction - Chapter 2. Requirements Goal: Clear TBDs and compile open issues toward v2.0. 4. Schedule toward the submission of the draft (5 min) - Proposed schedule: Oct 13 Review of the Chapter 7 then Chapter 1 and 2. Oct 20 Review of the rest, Open issues, style check Oct 27 Submission to the GGF editor [Projection] Mid Nov. Comments from GGF editor received. End Nov. Comments are addressed and returned. Early Dec. 60 day public review starts. Early Feb. review comments are collected. Mid Feb. updated draft is returned to GGF editor. End Feb. approval by GGF. 5. Updates (5 min) - If any others,... 6. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) Total: 95 min ### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Oct 12 Wed 20:00 EDT/Oct 13 Thu 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Lake Park, IA) Participant Access Code: 7771111 -Keisuke

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EMS interactions
by Michael Behrens 09 Oct '05

09 Oct '05

Attached is an attempt at a simpler EMS interactions diagram. Modifying it was discussed in Boston. -- Michael Behrens R2AD, LLC (571) 594-3008 (cell) *new* (703) 714-0442 (land)

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[Fwd: Re: [ogsa-rss-wg] Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 00:42:00 +0200]
by Hiro Kishimoto 07 Oct '05

07 Oct '05

Hi all, I would very much appreciate if you could bring better description to Thursday F2F in order to clear up misunderstanding like this. > What about ACS? > o General Data Store > -- Good Place to Keep Packaged Apps Ready for Deployment (under CDDLM control) > -- Not Sure Who Specifies the Format of the App Packages > -- But doesn’t matter to us! > o Supports Complex Querying > -- i.e., it is an Info Service! > -- No Specification of Data Model See you at ACS-WG session #1. -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Re: [acs-wg] [Fwd: Re: [ogsa-rss-wg] Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 00:42:00+0200]
by Michael Behrens 06 Oct '05

06 Oct '05

Sachiko and I had a presentation ready (thanks to Sachiko), however it was not necessary to present. We do have an action item to consolidate the CDDLM choices they presented down to one. If we can study the CDDLM document and come to a consensus, that would be good. (Sooner is better). I'll re-post the briefing to our mailing list now (from Stuart). ---------- Original Message ---------------------------------- From: "Keisuke Fukui (on the road)" <kfukui(a)labs.fujitsu.com> Date: Wed, 05 Oct 2005 23:36:51 +0900 >Mike, > >May I ask you to take care of this? > >Though I'm not sure to redo the introduction of the ACS you've done at >the last OGSA meeting address to the request, I think it's OK about the >contents itself; nothing has changed since then for us. > >I myself have explained ACS to the audiences at OGSA-EMS and CDDLM sessions >on Monday and at OGSA-RSS on Tuesday. I believe my comment is taken >as I meant and cleared the questions there. > >Talk to you later. > > -Keisuke > > >Hiro Kishimoto wrote: >> Hi all, >> >> I would very much appreciate if you could bring better >> description to Thursday F2F in order to clear up >> misunderstanding like this. >> >>> What about ACS? >>> o General Data Store >>> -- Good Place to Keep Packaged Apps Ready for Deployment (under CDDLM >>> control) >>> -- Not Sure Who Specifies the Format of the App Packages >>> -- But doesnt matter to us! >>> o Supports Complex Querying >>> -- i.e., it is an Info Service! >>> -- No Specification of Data Model >> >> >> See you at ACS-WG session #1. >> >> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ >> >> Subject: >> Re: [ogsa-rss-wg] Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 00:42:00 +0200 >> From: >> "Donal K. Fellows" <donal.k.fellows(a)manchester.ac.uk> >> Date: >> Tue, 04 Oct 2005 08:01:51 -0400 >> To: >> Mathias Dalheimer <dalheimer(a)itwm.fhg.de> >> >> To: >> Mathias Dalheimer <dalheimer(a)itwm.fhg.de> >> CC: >> ogsa-rss-wg(a)ggf.org >> >> >> Mathias Dalheimer wrote: >> >>> We'll put the stuff together tomorrow morning at 9am, we'll meet >>> during breakfast. >> >> >> Here are a few slides I've thrown together having had a quick trawl >> through some of the current CDDLM and ACS drafts. >> >> Donal. > > > -- Michael Behrens, CTO R2AD, LLC cell: (571) 594-3008 --

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CDDLM - ACS - EMS Interactions
by Michael Behrens 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Please find attached a short write-up on the EMS interactions for our draft specification. Note that Stuart sent out some materials to the OGSA and CDDLM WGs 28 Sep 05 pertinent to this. I believe these will all be discussed on Thursday at the OGSA F2F. -- Michael Behrens R2AD, LLC (571) 594-3008 (cell) *new* (703) 714-0442 (land)

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[Fwd: Note from Mike Behrens]
by Keisuke Fukui (on the road) 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Folks, Mike's flight has been diverted. Does anyone has more info. about the flights around Boston? -Keisuke

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Schedule for Drafting a spec.
by Keisuke Fukui 05 Oct '05

05 Oct '05

Folks, fyi, Here is an updated schedule and status for drafting a spec, reflecting the discussion at the last teleconference. -Keisuke

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