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Agenda for the Call on Apr 26 Wed 20:00 EDT/Apr 27 Thu 9:00 JST
by Keisuke Fukui 26 Apr '06

26 Apr '06

Folks, Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! ### Proposed Agenda 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 2. ACS Spec. 1.0 Public Comments Results (10 min) - Expecting completion of revision in April, addressing all comments except for those involves future extension. We will submit a revision and make response to the comments. - Second revision addressing to the public comments are uploaded https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/draft-ggf-acs-spec-1.0… It's under the "Working Draft" folder that I created: Application Contents Service WG : Document Manager : Current Drafts : Working Drafts - Comments can viewable at below link: https://forge.gridforum.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=592 3. GGF17 session (10 min) I have canceled our session request for GGF17. I'd like to propose have one at GGF18 in September. I got an acknowledge from NAREGI PSE team. 4. Updates (5 min) OASIS SDD TC will have F2F meeting during May 15-17. I will attend the meeting and give them introduce Application Archive Format part of our specification. If there are any others... 5. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) Total: 35 min ### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Apr 26 Wed 20:00 EDT/Apr 27 Thu 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Iowa) Participant Access Code: 7771111 -Keisuke

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Teleconference minutes - Apr 19
by Keisuke Fukui 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

Hi team, Here is the minutes of the last teleconf. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. It is also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/minutes-20060419/en/1 Keisuke =============================================================================== ACS Teleconference ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Apr 19 20:10-21:10 EST 2006 / Apr 20 9:10-10:10 JST 2006 Participants: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) - minutes Peter Ziu (Northrop) Michael Behrens (R2AD) ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 2. ACS Spec. 1.0 Public Comments Results (10 min) - The public comments ended on 10 Apr, 2006. - 190+ comments from Dr. Nakata of NEC; including many language improvements. - 14 comments from Hiro, AD of management area. - One tribute comment from Prof. Kawata Utsunomiya-univ. - Expecting completion of revision in April, addressing all comments except for those involves future extension. We will submit a revision and make response to the comments. - Comments can viewable at below link: https://forge.gridforum.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=592 Action: Keisuke, to send proposed revision of the draft to acs-wg ML early next week. Action: Mike, to check the proposed revision. 3. GGF17 session (10 min) I have requested one session for GGF17. However, I'd like to propose canceling our session this time and have one at GGF18 in September. Information about the current assignment for the session request is shown below: http://www.ggf.org/gf/event_schedule/index.php?id=284 Date, Time, Place: 2006-05-10 11:00 G408 Action: Keisuke, to check with Naregi PSE team about GGF17 plan. 4. Updates (5 min) - SDD TC Calls for submission. Tom will post the call for submission for proposed SDD specification draft to the acs-wg ML. Our plan is to tribute the Archive format part of ACS specification. - GIG Enterprise Services The list of standard specification is included in the announcement. 5. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min)

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email should be back up....
by pete.ziu.ggf＠ziu.net 25 Apr '06

25 Apr '06

Hi Keisuke and group, My email should be straightened out now. Sorry to have caused any difficulties. Pete.

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Agenda for the Call on Apr 19 Wed 20:00 EDT/Apr 20 Thu 9:00 JST
by Keisuke Fukui 24 Apr '06

24 Apr '06

Folks, Here is an agenda for the call tomorrow. See you there! ### Proposed Agenda 1. Role call, note taker & time keeper, agenda bashing. (5 min) 2. ACS Spec. 1.0 Public Comments Results (10 min) - The public comments ended on 10 Apr, 2006. - 190+ comments from Dr. Nakata of NEC; including many language improvements. - 14 comments from Hiro, AD of management area. - One tribute comment from Prof. Kawata Utsunomiya-univ. - Expecting completion of revision in April, addressing all comments except for those involves future extension. We will submit a revision and make response to the comments. - Comments can viewable at below link: https://forge.gridforum.org/forum/forum.php?forum_id=592 3. GGF17 session (10 min) I have requested one session for GGF17. However, I'd like to propose canceling our session this time and have one at GGF18 in September. Information about the current assignment for the session request is shown below: http://www.ggf.org/gf/event_schedule/index.php?id=284 Date, Time, Place: 2006-05-10 11:00 G408 4. Updates (5 min) If there is any... 5. Wrap up, Next meeting(5 min) Total: 35 min ### Logistics for the call Date & Time: Apr 19 Wed 20:00 EDT/Apr 20 Thu 9:00 JST Dial-in Number: 1-712-432-2000 (Iowa) Participant Access Code: 7771111 -Keisuke

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Proposing ACS-WG call this week.
by Keisuke Fukui 17 Apr '06

17 Apr '06

Folks, As for the acs-wg call, I'm thinking about having one this week, regular day and time of Wednesday 20:00 EDT, unless anyone propose alternative. The agenda will include about the public comments for the ACS Spec. 1.0 and GGF17 plan. (The chance is that we skip the session at GGF17 since we may finish a revision to the public comments on ACS Spec. 1.0.) I will announce the detail by Wednesday so please keep your eyes on it. See you then! -Keisuke

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Last call for Application Contents Service Specification 1.0
by Keisuke Fukui 08 Mar '06

08 Mar '06

Folks in ogsa-wg, cddlm-wg and acs-wg, We, acs-wg, has come to completion of the ACS Specification 1.0 after discussions and reviews. This is the last call for comments before submission to the GGF Editor for publication. If you have comments, please get them to me by 9 am Japan time on Monday November 7. If there are no significant comments I plan to submit the document on Monday afternoon. Below is the link for the document: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/draft-ggf-acs-spec-1.0… Regards, Keisuke Fukui ACS-WG co-chair

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Next tele-conference
by Keisuke Fukui 07 Mar '06

07 Mar '06

Folks, We had a successful acs sessions at GGF16 in February. I'd like to emphasize your involvement was a big assist on this. Our draft is now under the public comment and may collect some valuable input to refine them anytime by the end of comment period, April 10. Also, we will have GGF17 in May in Japan that will be a good chance to recruit early adopters of ACS and exchange information. # I'm looking for off-the-shelf technologies or toolkit that # helps ACS early adopters to build their implementations. Meanwhile, we are approaching toward the end of fiscal year in Japan and it keeps me busy in many aspects. I expect it will end around the early April. I hear some of you are also observing activeness in your business, too. If it is the case for you and you don't have any immediate agenda, I propose to wait for few weeks until we are really ready to start discussion for out next action and resume regular tele-conferences. We can have discussions on Mailing lists meanwhile, for example, when we get public comments on ACS specification. Please let me know your thoughts, especially if you have immediate agenda to discuss. Thanks for your considerations. -Keisuke

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Skipping the acs-wg call on March 1.
by Keisuke Fukui 01 Mar '06

01 Mar '06

Folks, May I ask to skip the acs-wg call on this Wednesday March 1? I am swamped by some tasks in my company. I hope that we meet next week on regular call. Thanks! -Keisuke

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GGF16 minutes
by Sachiko Wada 27 Feb '06

27 Feb '06

Hi team, Here are the minutes of the GGF16 sessions. Please review it and point out where the record is not correct, if any. They are also available at Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/ggf16-minutes-session-… https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/acs-wg/document/ggf16-minutes-session-… Also, all the materials can be downloaded from GridForge: https://forge.gridforum.org/docman2/ViewCategory.php?group_id=147&category_… Thank you, Sachiko ====================================================================== GGF16 ACS Session #1 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Feb 14 13:30-15:00 EET 2006 Lead: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Notes: Sachiko Wada (Ascade) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Overview of ACS Material: ACS Overview, Sample AA Keisuke gave a brief introduction of ACS specification and a sample application archive which contains AAD, CDL and JSDL. [Q&A] NAREGI: The sample AA includes only one binary. Can I include multiple binaries in a single AA? Keisuke: Yes. This is just a simplest example. * NAREGI-PSE presentation Material: NAREGI_PSEwithACS NAREGI PSE team introduced the PSE architecture, which implements an Application Pool based on ACS 1.0. The presentation included a short demonstration. [Q&A] Keisuke: I understand that the PSE didn't include JSDL as a part of the AA, because parameters are different for each submission of the Job. However, a template JSDL may be included in an AA so that user can retrieve it and modify it with job specific parameters. Keisuke: Is there relationship between AA instances? NAREGI: Yes, we maintain the relationship outside of ACS repository. Mike: Can I obtain the source code? NAREGI: Not yet. But the open source will be available at NAREGI site by next GGF. * Business Grid Computing Project Material: ACS sample implementation by Business Grid Computing Keisuke presented the overview of their implementation on behalf of Business Grid Computing team. No question. ====================================================================== GGF16 ACS Session #2 ----------------------------------------------------------------------- Date and Time: Feb 14 15:30-17:00 EET 2006 Lead: Keisuke Fukui (Fujitsu) Notes: Sachiko Wada (Ascade) ------------------------------------------------------------------------ * Detailed Discussion for Next Step Material: R2AD Vision Starting with Mike's presentation of his idea about ACS future use case, ACS next step was discussed in detail. Keisuke: Regarding to the slide 4, what is the typical use case for the "large complex multi-node system"? Mike: Executing parallel tasks across multiple grid systems. For example, video streaming service which processes the images on the fly. Keisuke: As for "Distribution Challenges" on slide 9, these challenges may be addressed by the other WG/RGs in GGF or existing technologies. For example, OGSA data team addresses data distribution and replication. NAREGI: We have a requirement to maintain relationship between single source code and multiple libraries, and we decided to keep the relationship information outside of the AA. Keisuke: Since the specification is expected to be composable with other standards/technologies and applicable to various systems, it is preferable to manage the relationship between AAs in domain specific way. Mike: My suggestion is adding meta data to AA, such as linkage and type of AA. In some case, conditional linkage will be useful. Keisuke: To specify meta data, we need to model the relationship based on use case analysis. When we find a appropriate representation for models or relationship, which covers diversity of the ACS enabled systems, it is the time the specification address to this. Mike: How about having placeholders in AA for the meantime? NAREGI: We are interested in which direction ACS 2.0 will go. Currently NAREGI PSE has the following plans: - Full Support of ACS V1.0 - AA management based on policy and role. Keisuke: The ACS-WG welcomes the feedback from NAREGI team or any other projects about what is the requirements and how they implement them on top of ACS Spec. 1.0.

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Skipping the acs-wg call this week.
by Keisuke Fukui 21 Feb '06

21 Feb '06

Folks, I'd like to skip the acs-wg call this week since I have a schedule for the regular time. Besides, I'm being tied up with some tasks in my company and is not ready for discussion. I got some potentially useful information for acs at GGF, but not ready to make use of it. After all, thanks again for your assistances to the successful sessions. See you next week! -Keisuke

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