Hi Chen, I didn't know about this presentation. But, in fact, I was also in favour of a 2.0 version that included as many thing as possible instead of going through a series of intermediate release that each add some specific things. Of course we should try to do it in a way that we are not overwhelmed by too many things but at least to produce something that is quite general in a reasonable amount of time. As it was also pointed out we should be careful and try to avoid attributes that can be used in different ways in different condition so Andrea On 03/23/2010 05:11 PM, Xiaoyu Chen wrote:
Hello John:
It's a good idea to have a UR 2.0 specification, but I won't recommend a separate storage usage record. In OGF 21, Donal and I came up with a long-term roadmap for UR 2.0 (as attached). How about come up with some storage metrics rather than another usage record template for storage. I will try to squeeze sometime for the UR core schema, which abstract common template for different types of usage records, computing, storage, service, etc.
PS: I've moved to university of Southampton (email: xc2@ecs.soton.ac.uk) and got a project deadline in May. But I will try my best to input something. I also asked for replacement of my chairship.
Best Regards!
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-----Original Message----- From: ur-wg-bounces@ogf.org on behalf of john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk Sent: Tue 23/03/2010 15:42 To: andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it; ur-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
Andrea, at OGF28 someone suggested that we had a choice of either fitting the storage record into the existing UR or defining a new standard. I do not think that this is the case. The existing UR UsageRecord element has a UsageRecordType type of which JobUsageRecord is a defined type. I think we need to define a new type StorageUsageRecord which can contain some of the existing Global attributes defined for the JobUsageRecord.
We could also define a FileUsageRecord to cover the case you were defining Andrea.
John
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Andrea Cristofori Sent: 23 March 2010 14:49 To: ur-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
Dear all,
While waiting for the minute I'll suggest we can already start to discuss one basic topic that came up during the meeting before we move to more specific things.
- Since the beginning I was thinking just to add new properties to the existing UR definition. This would allow to choose those that are needed in each situation and reuse those that are common. In case of new versions of the UR definition if we update a property then is not needed to update all the definition if this is common. Not all of us agreed with that and it was proposed to create a different usage record for the Storage. What do you think?
- What would you prefer to do in case we discuss other property not directly connected with storage accounting? Should we include everything in the discussion now or concentrate only on this topic and try to finalize an update before moving to other things?
Cheers Andrea
On 03/18/2010 05:19 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
P.S.: here is the link
http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/?id=2029
On 03/18/2010 05:15 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Dear all,
I have uploaded the slide I presented in Munich last Monday. As
soon
as
we check the minute of the discussion I will upload the file, we
can
continue the discussion and decide how to proceed.
Cheers Andrea
On 03/10/2010 04:40 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Dear all,
We have a session scheduled for Monday, March 15 from 4:00 pm to
5:30 pm
Location: HGB-A 016.
Agenda: - UR for Storage Accounting discussion - AUR discussion - AOB
If you want to add or change something on the agenda please let me
know.
I'm plannig to prepare some slide to show to the people present
there
that can be a starting point for the discussion.
Cheers Andrea
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