Hi Chen,

I didn't know about this presentation. But, in fact, I was also in favour of a 2.0 version that included as many thing as possible instead of going through a series of intermediate release that each add some specific things. Of course we should try to do it in a way that we are not overwhelmed by too many things but at least to produce something that is quite general in a reasonable amount of time.

As it was also pointed out we should be careful and try to avoid attributes that can be used in different ways in different condition so

Andrea




On 03/23/2010 05:11 PM, Xiaoyu Chen wrote:
Hello John:

      It's a good idea to have a UR 2.0 specification, but I won't recommend a separate storage usage record. In OGF 21, Donal and I came up with a long-term roadmap for UR 2.0 (as attached). How about come up with some storage metrics rather than another usage record template for storage. I will try to squeeze sometime for the UR core schema, which abstract common template for different types of usage records, computing, storage, service, etc. 

      PS: I've moved to university of Southampton (email: xc2@ecs.soton.ac.uk) and got a project deadline in May. But I will try my best to input something. I also asked for replacement of my chairship. 


      
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-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Tue 23/03/2010 15:42
To: andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it; ur-wg@ogf.org
Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule
 
Andrea, at OGF28 someone suggested that we had a choice of either
fitting the storage record into the existing UR or defining a new
standard.  I do not think that this is the case. The existing UR
UsageRecord element has a UsageRecordType type of which JobUsageRecord
is a defined type. I think we need to define a new type
StorageUsageRecord which can contain some of the existing Global
attributes defined for the JobUsageRecord. 

We could also define a FileUsageRecord to cover the case you were
defining Andrea.

John

  
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Of
  
Andrea Cristofori
Sent: 23 March 2010 14:49
To: ur-wg@ogf.org
Subject: Re: [UR-WG] OGF28 Schedule

Dear all,

While waiting for the minute I'll suggest we can already start to
discuss one basic topic that came up during the meeting before we move
to more specific things.

- Since the beginning I was thinking just to add new properties to the
existing UR definition. This would allow to choose those that are
needed
in each situation and reuse those that are common. In case of new
versions of the UR definition if we update a property then is not
needed
to update all the definition if this is common. Not all of us agreed
with that and it was proposed to create a different usage record for
the
Storage.
What do you think?

- What would you prefer to do in case we discuss other property not
directly connected with storage accounting? Should we include
everything
in the discussion now or concentrate only on this topic and try to
finalize an update before moving to other things?

Cheers
Andrea




On 03/18/2010 05:19 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
    
P.S.: here is the link

http://www.ogf.org/gf/event_schedule/?id=2029



On 03/18/2010 05:15 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:

      
Dear all,

I have uploaded the slide I presented in Munich last Monday. As
        
soon
  
as
    
we check the minute of the discussion I will upload the file, we
        
can
  
continue the discussion and decide how to proceed.

Cheers
Andrea




On 03/10/2010 04:40 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:


        
Dear all,

We have a session scheduled for Monday, March 15 from 4:00 pm to
          
5:30 pm
    
Location: HGB-A 016.

Agenda:
- UR for Storage Accounting discussion
- AUR discussion
- AOB

If you want to add or change something on the agenda please let me
          
know.
    
I'm plannig to prepare some slide to show to the people present
          
there
    
that can be a starting point for the discussion.

Cheers
Andrea




          

        

      

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