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Minutes from today's UR-WG session
by Jon Kerr Nilsen 14 Mar '12

14 Mar '12

Hi all, Thanks to all that attended! Please find attached the minutes from today's meeting. (Actually it's the slides we edited during the meeting but you get the picture :)) We also did some modifications in the requirements section on the wiki. cheers, Jon

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Today's telcon cancelled
by Jon Kerr Nilsen 06 Mar '12

06 Mar '12

Hi all, As one chair is at home being sick and one chair has to attend another four-times-postponed meeting we have to cancel today's meeting. As this frees up some time I suggest that all have a look at Mike's take on sampling/monitoring in storage accounting: https://forge.ogf.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ur-wg/wiki/StorageSensor… See you next week! cheers, Jon

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Added wiki info as discussed in meeting
by Mike Jones 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Folks, I've published a first stab at a section entitled: Storage Accounting with Sampling/Monitoring in the wiki as per action from today's skype call. https://forge.ogf.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ur-wg/wiki/StorageSensor… The notes section also there and I've put in a few starters. Mike

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Reminder: Telcon meeting today 28.02.2012 @ 15:00 CET
by Jon Kerr Nilsen 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Hi all, As we postponed last week's meeting one week, the next meeting is today. We'll go through the actions mentioned below and possibly make some new ones. Just to try out something new, I suggest we try the Skype conference room in Lund (which is starting to get stable now). So you can call in to Place: Skype Skype contact: lund.room.1 Phone bridge: +46462884608 cheers, Jon Actions from last meeting: - AC: Ask for another session the same day at OGF and update the agenda on OGF website - JKN: make public the document - All: write some examples for the different use cases (minima, grid, local, etc.) (Ralph local, JAK Grid/dCache) Especially for John Gordon: can you please comment on those two use cases: As a project I would like to be able to view the used and unused storage space that I have on a storage resource. - Thus I can see how much headroom I have. All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required As a project I would like to be able to view the requested storage I have on a specific resource and the allocated/reserved resources I have on that resource. - Thus I can see I asked for 100TB and I currently have only 80TB at my disposal (of which i am using 50TB). All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required

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Actions for next phone meeting on 21.02.2012
by Andrea Cristofori 28 Feb '12

28 Feb '12

Dear all, Most of the phone conference has been focused on the comments on the use cases provided by John AK. We commented directly inline on the wiki. Feel free to add more Use cases if not present. We will comment them during next phone conference. We also agreed in asking for a second time slot during OGF (if possible the same day) and divide the agenda in two parts and JKN will look for information on how to make the document he circulated the 25th public. The actions for next meeting are the following: - AC: Ask for another session the same day at OGF and update the agenda on OGF website - JKN: make public the document - All: write some examples for the different use cases (minima, grid, local, etc.) (Ralph local, JAK Grid/dCache) Especially for John Gordon: can you please comment on those two use cases: 1. As a project I would like to be able to view the used and unused storage space that I have on a storage resource. - Thus I can see how much headroom I have. All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required 1. As a project I would like to be able to view the requested storage I have on a specific resource and the allocated/reserved resources I have on that resource. - Thus I can see I asked for 100TB and I currently have only 80TB at my disposal (of which i am using 50TB). All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required Cheers Andrea

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EMI StAR – Definition of a Storage Accounting Record - ready for public comments
by Jon Kerr Nilsen 13 Feb '12

13 Feb '12

Hi, The StAR document has been submitted and entered a 30-day public comment period, see https://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/artf6532 Please distribute to interested parties for reading and comments. cheers, Jon Begin forwarded message: > From: SourceForge Administrator <ogf-it(a)ogf.org> > Subject: Artifact changed: EMI StAR – Definition of a Storage Accounting Record > Date: 10. februar 2012 19:43:17 GMT+01:00 > To: Jon Kerr Nilsen <j.k.nilsen(a)fys.uio.no> > Reply-To: artf6532(a)forge.ogf.org > > > artf6532: EMI StAR – Definition of a Storage Accounting Record > > Modified on 02/10/2012 by Greg Newby > Status: - New: "Public Comment Period" Old: "AD Review" > Assigned To: - New: "Joel Replogle" Old: "Andre Merzky" > resolution: - New: "" Old: "Accepted" > > Comment was added: > Tanks for this. It will next go to 30-day public comment. Please ask WG members and other constituents to read & provide comments. > > Respond by visiting: > https://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/artf6532 > > --------------------------------------------------------------------- > Artifact details:- > > Project: Editor > Tracker: Submit OGF Draft > > Group: Management > Status: Public Comment Period > Category: Informational > Priority: 3 > Assigned To: Joel Replogle > resolution: > > Description: In this informational document the EU-project European Middleware Initiative (EMI) describes a storage accounting record (StAR), defined to reflect practical, financial and legal requirements of storage location, usage and space and data flow. The defined record might be the base for a standardized schema or an extension of an existing record like the OGF UR and this document is intended as information to be taken as input for incorporating storage resources into the OGF UR. > > The described definition is agreed upon and will be implemented by the storage elements within EMI >

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Actions for next phone meeting on 07/02/2012
by Andrea Cristofori 07 Feb '12

07 Feb '12

Dear all, here is a list of actions for next phone meeting - All: write some use cases on the wiki - All: check the attributes on the wiki page and give comments - All: comments on the document: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1953002/StAR-OGF-info-doc-v1.docx - CA & JKN: split the common block in two parts (recordidentity and useridentity) and add some attributes (issuer, authorization type, wheretheusercamefrom,...) - CA & JKN: write a preliminary agenda for next OGF - JKN: change the title on the document to reflect the fact that it is not an OGF document and circulate it before next meeting If I forgot something please feel free to add. Cheers, Andrea

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Strorage Usage Record - use cases and requirements...
by john alan kennedy 03 Feb '12

03 Feb '12

Hi All, I have added some use cases and requirements to the UR-WG wiki. I have tried to go through previous meeting notes and e-mails and to be honest I guess I did a bit or reverse engineering from the StAR document to end up with a set which I hope reflects much of what we have talked about in the past. I think if we can defined the use-cases and requirements we can better define what we aim to do with the UR and also we'll know when we've done it. This isn't supposed to be a definitive list, it's just a start and things can easily be dropped and added. So please feel free to add (and correct). I also included some things which we have discussed but that are probably (or definitely) out of scope. I have done this so we can discuss why they are out of scope and tag them as such. I think it will help us if later in the day we can point to this - we've discussed these topics so others may ask and we can then say. "yep we talked about that and it's considered to be out of scope because ..." cheers (and bon weekend) John https://forge.ogf.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ur-wg/wiki/UseCases -- +------------------------------------------------------------+ |Dr. John Alan Kennedy Rechenzentrum Garching (RZG) | |Mail: jkennedy(a)rzg.mpg.de Boltzmannstrasse 2 | |Phone: +49 89 3299 2694 85748 Garching | |Fax: +49 89 3299 1301 | +------------------------------------------------------------+

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EMI StAR OGF info doc take 2
by Jon Kerr Nilsen 25 Jan '12

25 Jan '12

Hi all, As agreed on the last meeting, here is a slightly adjusted version of the StAR info doc. The title and abstract are slightly changed to make it clear that this document is input from EMI to OGF. The current document can be found here: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/1953002/EMI-StAR-OGF-info-doc-v2.docx Comments appreciated as always. cheers, Jon

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Agenda fo next phone meeeting on 17.01.2012 at 15:00 CET
by Andrea Cristofori 24 Jan '12

24 Jan '12

Dear all, Following is the agenda for next UR-WG phone meeting on 17.01.2012 at 15:00 CET: - discuss the document that Jon will provide soon (we should send it not later than the 5th of February, just after our phone meeting on the 3rd) - discuss the new charter - comments on the attributes for the new UR proposed on the wiki pages - shall we ask for 2 sessions at next OGF? - AOB Cheers, Andrea and Jon

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