Hi, notwithstanding the fact that the group did not yet finalize its decision on WG/RG formationsplitflip, we don't have much time until GGF16 to settle the formal issues of that process. As a split is amongst our options, we need to discuss the appropriate charter updates for the resulting groups (Thanks to the ADs for the reminder). Attached are drafts for a WG and RG charter (they are in CVS). Please note that the groups in question are named SAGA RG and SAGA WG -- that is not normative ;-) as we did not decide on the names yet, either. Please also note that the list of deliverables etc. is sketchy at best - I am not sure what document should get finalized in which group. However, feedback would be most welcome to the scope and goals section of the RG charter. As we settle on that part, the remaining pieces should fall into place. The drafts are solely my opinion right now, and probably somewhat off target - so don't blame the other chairs, please :-) I assume that we don't need to answer the (in)famous 'Seven Questions' again, as I think there is no doubt that the groups have a right to exist - they are called for by the GFSG, right? Cheers, Andre. -- "So much time, so little to do..." -- Garfield