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OGSA Resource Selection Services-WG
by Mathias Dalheimer 28 Mar '05

28 Mar '05

Hello! On GGF13 I was beginning to work on the formation of an OGSA-related working group. It will deal with Resource Selection Services and tries to specify the interfaces a grid scheduler should provide to the outside world. Now, I would like to invite more people from both OGSA-WG and Grid Scheduling Architecture-RG to contribute. You can find my draft of a charter and a timetable to GGF14 here in a wiki I set up: http://h63759.serverkompetenz.net/snipsnap (Yes, this is a really ugly temporary address - it will change...) So far, the list of supporters reads as follows: * Satoshi Matsuoka, Hwang Soonwook and Kazushige Saga of the NAREGI team * David Snelling (GGF Vice Chair, OGSA) * Ramin Yahyapour and Philip Wieder, Grid Scheduling Architecture-RG * Andrew Grimshaw and Hiro Kishimoto, OGSA-WG * Various Scheduler people: Walfredo Cirne (Universidade Federal de Campina Grande), Donal Fellows (Uni Manchester), Chris Smith (Platform Computing) and of course me (Fraunhofer ITWM). I hope I can add other people to this list. If you have any questions or want to come up with concrete plans how to contribute, please contact me. Same applies of you know someone that may be interested. Cheers, Mathias -- ______________________________________________________________________ Dipl.-Wirtsch. Ing. (Inform.) Mathias Dalheimer Fraunhofer Institut für Techno- und Wirtschaftsmathematik (ITWM) Europaallee 10 67657 Kaiserslautern, Germany Phone +49(0)631/303-1827 | mailto:dalheimer@itwm.fraunhofer.de Fax +49(0)631/303-1877 | ______________________________________________________________________

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Proposed agenda for March 28th call
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Mar '05

28 Mar '05

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on March 28th Monday from 5pm to 7pm (CST). The dial-in number for Monday; Free: +1-866-639-4741 Toll: +1-574-935-6703 PIN: 8980700 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0328 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (10 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes (May 23) approval - http://tinyurl.com/6x26p Agenda bashing 2) GGF13 Minutes approval (20 min) - Minutes approval. Please upload session minutes before the call. #1 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/ggf13-minutes-session-1/en/1 #2 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/ggf13-minutes-session-2/en/1 #3 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/ggf13-minutes-session-3/en/1 #4 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/ggf13-minutes-session-4/en/1 #5 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/ggf13-minutes-session-5/en/1 #6 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/ggf13-minutes-session-6/en/1 #7 http://tinyurl.com/4h459 #8 not yet? #9 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/ggf13-minutes-session-9/en/1 #10 http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/ggf13-minutes-session-10/en/1 3) telecon schedule discussion (20 min) - Time allocation proposal for discussion o Basic Profile: every Wednesday until Apr. 20 (5 times, new time) o Profile Template: every other Monday (2 times) o roadmap: every Wednesday on and after Apr. 13 (3 times) o new WG & data design team reporting: monthly (2 times) See attached table (also http://tinyurl.com/5fxfd/telecon_schedule) 4) May F2F meeting discussion (10 min) We will have next interim F2F meeting in the week of May 23 in London UK. Please let me know your availability by answering simple four questions by accessing the following URL: http://www.zoomerang.com/survey.zgi?p=WEB2248D2NP9C3 As of May 28, 8 members have answered the survey. See attached table. 5) Wrap up (10 min) AOB Mar. 30 (noon-2pm CST) Basic Profile Mar. 20 (5-7pm CST) F2F schedule April 4 (5-7pm CDT) Profile template April 6 (noon-2pm CDT) Basic Profile April 6 (5-7pm CDT) TBD See telecon schedule until May F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/telecon_schedule ---- Hiro Kishimoto

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time
by Dave Berry 28 Mar '05

28 Mar '05

A final(?) correction: I should also have changed the names of the time zones affected by DST. Some readers weren't sure which time I meant. 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 4.30pm BST / 5.30 pm CEST Dave. > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On > Behalf Of Dave Berry > Sent: 27 March 2005 15:50 > To: ogsa-wg > Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; > gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; > jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; > ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; > annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen > Luniewski; Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke > (UCL); David E Martin; Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; > Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; > Stephen Langella; Shannon Hastings; Manuel Pereira; Ted > Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan > Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time > > Of course, it would help if I got the correction right. As Susan > pointed out in e-mail, the times should actually be: > > 7.30am PST / 10.30amm EST / 4.30pGMT / 5.30 pm CET. > > I assume that everyone is now thoroughly confused ;-). > > Dave. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On > Behalf Of > Dave Berry > Sent: 26 March 2005 17:36 > To: ogsa-wg > Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; > gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; > jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; > ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; > annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; > Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; > Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; > Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon > Hastings; > Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan > Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time > > > Correction: the time of this meeting will be: > > 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 2.30pm GMT / 3.30 pm CET > > Dave. > > > -----Original Message----- > From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On > Behalf Of > Dave Berry > Sent: 24 March 2005 12:58 > To: ogsa-wg > Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; > gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; > jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; > ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; > annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; > Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; > Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; > Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon > Hastings; > Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan > Subject: [ogsa-wg] Data: proposed agenda for Wednesday March 30th > > > Dear all, > > I propose we have a telcon next Wednesday, March 30th, at our > new usual > time of 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 3.30pm GMT / 4.30 pm CET. > > UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 > US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 > International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 > > PIN: 632 065 > > The two main topics I intend to cover are: > > - draft charter for becoming a working group > > - progress with the straw man document > > I will post a full agenda early next week. In the interim I intend to > circulate a draft of the WG charter and an update on the document. > > Best wishes, > > Dave Berry > Research Manager, National e-Science Centre > 15 South College St., Edinburgh > Tel: +44 131 6514039 > >

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Re: [ogsa-wg] RE: Update on OGSA Basic Profile Security work
by Hiro Kishimoto 28 Mar '05

28 Mar '05

Hi all, Takuya's email bounced. ---- Hiro Kishimoto Date: Fri, 25 Mar 2005 11:58:39 -0600 (CST) To: security-area(a)ggf.org Cc: ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] RE: Update on OGSA Basic Profile Security work From: Takuya Mori <mori(a)mcs.anl.gov> Dear All, There is an update on the telecon schedule. I applogize my duplicate, if you guys have already been noticed it. It is proposed to have the Basic Profile sessions 1-3pm ET on Wednesdays. The security related issues is also scheduled in the same time slot on Mar 30th now. If it does not work for you, please let me know it. Thank you, Takuya Mori From: "Hiro Kishimoto" <hiro.kishimoto(a)jp.fujitsu.com> Subject: [ogsa-wg] RE: Update on OGSA Basic Profile Security work Date: Wed, 23 Mar 2005 17:05:37 +0900 > Thanks Dane for your obliging email, > > Certainly OGSA-WG welcomes and requires security experts. Proposed > telecon date is March 30th. If it does not work for you, April 6th is > another option. Please let me know your preference. > > You can sub-scribe our mailing list; > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/sourceforge/document/majordomo_he > lp/en/1/ma > jordomo_help.doc > http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/threads.html > > Our Wednesday call is 5-7pm CST. The dial in number is 1-888-452-0308 > or 1-484-644-0505 and the pass code is 71815. > > You can download the latest basic profile draft from; > https://forge.gridforum.org/projects/ogsa-wg/document/draft-ggf-ogsa-b > asic-profi > le/en/3 > > Now we have four open security related issues on this profile; > #1320: Transport and/or Message Level security > MUST or SHOULD?? > #1321: Discovery of key-info for encryption in message level security > Service Group Profile/ EPR embedding > #1322: Use of Proxy Certificates > Standard but not widely adopted outside of grid communit > Time boxed certificates (short lived certs) > #1323: Communication of assertions > Profiles for common assertions in headers or Proxy > Certificate > #1324: Separate Security Basic Profile > Should we have a separate profile document for security > > Basic profile tracker is at; > https://forge.gridforum.org/tracker/index.php?group_id=42&atid=780 > > Thanks, > ---- > Hiro Kishimoto > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: Dane Skow [mailto:dane@fnal.gov] > > Sent: Thursday, March 17, 2005 6:03 PM > > To: security-area(a)ggf.org > > Cc: Ian Foster; Hiro Kishimoto > > Subject: Update on OGSA Basic Profile Security work > > > > As Frank mentioned in the Security Area Meeting, the OGSA Basic > > Profile is now being worked intensely toward conclusion. The Working > > Group has set a goal of > > mid April for resolving all the open issues with the current draft. The > > majority of > > the new issues opened this meeting have to do with security. Takuya has > > asked for > > a week to allow the interested parties in the Security Area to read the > > current draft > > and comment on the current open issues (or raise others). This means > > that interested > > parties will need to engage within the next few days to have maximal > > effectiveness. > > I encourage those interested in OGSA to engage on the Basic Profile now. > > > > The response to the question about which use cases from the OGSA > > use case document must be supported by the Basic Profile was "all of > > them". However, since > > we will not have a normative spec for WS-Delegation by June, nor do I > > know > > any other credential delegation standard, I suspect there > > was likely a misunderstanding. Takuya will follow up on that question. > > > > I believe Hiro and Ian (chairs of OGSA-WG) > > will second me in saying that input on this document from security > > experts is welcomed and requested. The most effective form would be > > for people to join the mailing list and attend the relevant > > phonecons. The next most > > effective is to download and read the current drafts and provide > > comments to the list. > > > > Frank and Takuya have volunteered to try to alert the area about > > relevant phonecons and open issues. However, they will not be able > > to relay comments/discussion with this > > short timeline. Interested parties will have to join them directly to > > keep up with the discussion. > > > > Cheers, > > Dane > >

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time
by Dave Berry 27 Mar '05

27 Mar '05

Of course, it would help if I got the correction right. As Susan pointed out in e-mail, the times should actually be: 7.30am PST / 10.30amm EST / 4.30pGMT / 5.30 pm CET. I assume that everyone is now thoroughly confused ;-). Dave. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: 26 March 2005 17:36 To: ogsa-wg Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon Hastings; Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time Correction: the time of this meeting will be: 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 2.30pm GMT / 3.30 pm CET Dave. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: 24 March 2005 12:58 To: ogsa-wg Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon Hastings; Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan Subject: [ogsa-wg] Data: proposed agenda for Wednesday March 30th Dear all, I propose we have a telcon next Wednesday, March 30th, at our new usual time of 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 3.30pm GMT / 4.30 pm CET. UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 PIN: 632 065 The two main topics I intend to cover are: - draft charter for becoming a working group - progress with the straw man document I will post a full agenda early next week. In the interim I intend to circulate a draft of the WG charter and an update on the document. Best wishes, Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Data: correction for EU daylight saving time
by Dave Berry 26 Mar '05

26 Mar '05

Correction: the time of this meeting will be: 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 2.30pm GMT / 3.30 pm CET Dave. -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: 24 March 2005 12:58 To: ogsa-wg Cc: Dave Pearson; Mario Antonioletti; Martin Westhead; gtr(a)ast.cam.ac.uk; chappella(a)battelle.org; arun(a)sdsc.edu; jxu(a)us.ibm.com; o.tatebe(a)aist.go.jp; Yves.Denneulin(a)imag.fr; ppadala(a)cise.ufl.edu; ivm(a)fnal.gov; jalameda(a)ncsa.uiuc.edu; annc(a)isi.edu; madsen(a)us.ibm.com; allcock(a)mcs.anl.gov; Allen Luniewski; Malcolm Atkinson; Susan Malaika; Peter Clarke (UCL); David E Martin; Peter Kunszt; Ian.Bird(a)cern.ch; Erwin.Laure(a)cern.ch; Gavin.Mccance(a)cern.ch; Scott Oster; Stephen Langella; Shannon Hastings; Manuel Pereira; Ted Anderson; Leo Luan; Mark M. Morgan Subject: [ogsa-wg] Data: proposed agenda for Wednesday March 30th Dear all, I propose we have a telcon next Wednesday, March 30th, at our new usual time of 7.30am PST / 10.30am EST / 3.30pm GMT / 4.30 pm CET. UK Dial In: 0845 245 0224 US Dial In: 1866 838 0046 International Dial In: +44 1452 542309 PIN: 632 065 The two main topics I intend to cover are: - draft charter for becoming a working group - progress with the straw man document I will post a full agenda early next week. In the interim I intend to circulate a draft of the WG charter and an update on the document. Best wishes, Dave Berry Research Manager, National e-Science Centre 15 South College St., Edinburgh Tel: +44 131 6514039

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Minutes of March 23 Telecon (resend)
by Treadwell, Jem 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Sorry, the version I attached before was illegible on Windows. The attached version should be better, but if not here's the URL: http://tinyurl.com/6x26p - Jem ________________________________ From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org] On Behalf Of Treadwell, Jem Sent: Thursday, March 24, 2005 11:04 AM To: ogsa-wg Subject: [ogsa-wg] Minutes of March 23 Telecon Hi, The minutes of last night's (yesterday's) call are attached and on GridForge. - Jem -- Jem Treadwell Hewlett-Packard Company Phone: (732) 577-6043 200 Route 9 North Fax: (732) 577-6003 Manalapan, NJ 07726 E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com

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Minutes of March 23 Telecon
by Treadwell, Jem 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Hi, The minutes of last night's (yesterday's) call are attached and on GridForge. - Jem -- Jem Treadwell Hewlett-Packard Company Phone: (732) 577-6043 200 Route 9 North Fax: (732) 577-6003 Manalapan, NJ 07726 E-mail: Jem.Treadwell(a)hp.com

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion
by Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Correction: BST starts on Sunday 27th (not 28th) March. Abdeslem /////////////// -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org]On Behalf Of Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) Sent: 24 March 2005 14:20 To: Tom Maguire; ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: RE: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion Excellent idea. By the way the UK moves to summer time (GMT+1) on Sunday 28 March. I believe Daylight Saving Time starts on April 3 in the US. So apart from Wednesday 30 March, the relative difference should be the same. Abdeslem /////////// -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org]On Behalf Of Tom Maguire Sent: 24 March 2005 13:59 To: ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion Importance: High During the OGSA telecon last night (3/23) we discussed the telecon schedule for moving forward on OGSA BP 1.0. The suggestion was to move the telecon time to a more 'friendly' time for key contributors. In that spirit the suggestion is that we move the OGSA BP discussion to Wednesdays 1:00PM - 3:00PM ET (6:00PM - 8:00PM GMT, 10:00AM-11:00AM PT). The plan is to finalize the OGSA BP document by the end of April, as such these calls will take place through April 20th. The calls will devote the first hour to security discussions related to OGSA BP until the issues/trackers related to BP security section are closed down. We need to lock down on a telecon time by Monday 3/28. Is this time acceptable to those who wish to participate? Tom Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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RE: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion
by Djaoui, A (Abdeslem) 24 Mar '05

24 Mar '05

Excellent idea. By the way the UK moves to summer time (GMT+1) on Sunday 28 March. I believe Daylight Saving Time starts on April 3 in the US. So apart from Wednesday 30 March, the relative difference should be the same. Abdeslem /////////// -----Original Message----- From: owner-ogsa-wg(a)ggf.org [mailto:owner-ogsa-wg@ggf.org]On Behalf Of Tom Maguire Sent: 24 March 2005 13:59 To: ogsa-wg(a)gridforum.org Subject: [ogsa-wg] Proposed new telecon time for OGSA Basic Profile discussion Importance: High During the OGSA telecon last night (3/23) we discussed the telecon schedule for moving forward on OGSA BP 1.0. The suggestion was to move the telecon time to a more 'friendly' time for key contributors. In that spirit the suggestion is that we move the OGSA BP discussion to Wednesdays 1:00PM - 3:00PM ET (6:00PM - 8:00PM GMT, 10:00AM-11:00AM PT). The plan is to finalize the OGSA BP document by the end of April, as such these calls will take place through April 20th. The calls will devote the first hour to security discussions related to OGSA BP until the issues/trackers related to BP security section are closed down. We need to lock down on a telecon time by Monday 3/28. Is this time acceptable to those who wish to participate? Tom Perfection is achieved, not when there is nothing more to add, but when there is nothing left to take away. – Antoine de Saint-Exupery T o m M a g u i r e STSM, On Demand Architecture Poughkeepsie, NY 12601

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