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Re: [ogsa-wg] OGSA WSRF BP Interop
by Michel Drescher 19 May '08

19 May '08

Hi Rachana, that's great news, thanks. Please, by all means do forward the mail to the Globus discussion lists as you see fit. As for the C developers, I do not have an explicit document; I plan to obtain the original Word document, and change that one more or less on the fly. All I have at the moment are the sketches in my previous mails. Cheers, Michel On 19 May 2008, at 16:08, Rachana Ananthakrishnan wrote: > Hi Michel, > > Thanks for the note, have been on work travel and vacation all of > last week. > > Both recommendations seem fine to me. On the notification issue, I > think > Globus already expects that the topic will be a QName and complying > with the > profile requirements should be straightforward. > > May I forward your previous email on this topic to globus discussion > list? > Is there an explicit document on this that I can forward to Globus > developers working on C code? > > Thanks, > Rachana > >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Michel Drescher [mailto:Michel.Drescher@uk.fujitsu.com] >> Sent: Thursday, May 15, 2008 8:39 AM >> To: Rachana Ananthakrishnan >> Cc: ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org >> Subject: OGSA WSRF BP Interop >> >> Hi Rachana, >> >> as you were not on today's OGSA phone conference on the OGSA WSRF BP >> interop effort, we would like to ask your opinion on the following. >> >> On the call the group agreed to change the WSRF Profile's resource >> properties "ResourcePropertyNames" and "WSResourceInterfaces" to the >> WSRF style of Resource Properties. >> >> The group also discussed to proceed with the proposal on the WS- >> Notification issue, i.e. creating a profile-specific topic >> dialect as >> proposed on the Mailing List (respective E-Mail attached). >> >> Based on your earlier comments we conjecture that you would not >> object, but we would like to solicit that before we proceed. >> >> >

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[Invitation] Modeling Guideline final review for publication @ Mon May 19 6pm – 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 May '08

19 May '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Modeling Guideline final review for publication Time: Mon May 19 6pm – 7pm (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0512 Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Modeling Guideline final review for publication The latest modeling guidelines document with all the comments addressed. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc12798 The comments and the resolutions are in a spreadsheet in the same folder. Please see: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14927 You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YW5sNDF1cDlyb2FranRuMm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Meeting minutes from May 15 ISV HTC usage primer
by Hiro Kishimoto 15 May '08

15 May '08

Hi all, Draft minutes attached. -- Hiro Kishimoto OGSA Teleconference ? 15 May 2008 - ISV HTC usage primer ========================================================= * Participants Michel Drescher Andreas Savva Donal Fellows Steven Newhouse Narfi Stefansson Andrew Grimshaw (at 20 minutes mark) Hiro Kishimoto (note taker) * Summary of New Actions ACTION ITEM: Andreas will provide a paragraph on JSDL-SPMD * Minutes 8th May approved with no changes AI: no items to review. Andreas asks if we need to re-schedule this Mondayfs ghigh level API call.h Hiro answers it is old name of gISV HTC usage primerh and is covered by this call. We donft need to re-schedule. Steven walks through his version 0.2 of the primer document. Steven copy paragraphs from Andrewfs primer. - ACTION ITEM: Andreas will provide a paragraph on JSDL-SPMD - ACTION ITEM: Steven will add a file transfer protocol with sending mails to RNS, DMI folks. - ACTION ITEM: Andreas will provide a paragraph on JSDL-parameter sweep. Donal asks if there are any low level file transfer protocols, e.g. grid ftp? Steven wants to add some of these. ACTION ITEM: Steven will add a file transfer protocol with sending mails to RNS, DMI folks. Andreas asks if Steven needs JSDL parameter sweep description as well? Steven answered he needs it. ACTION ITEM: Andreas will provide a paragraph on JSDL-parameter sweep. Andrew asks if section 3.3 is special case with file staging? Steven answered yes. It is file staging from client PC. Steven renames grealization profileh to gimplementation architectureh and will add useful notes afterward. Narfi points out gstorageh and gstorage serverh are very different things for some folks. Section 4.2 should be gexternal storageh instead of gexternal storage server.h Steven fixes this. Andrew wants to ask some of ISVs to buy-in this document. Does Mathworks interested in this? Narfi says that this document is tremendous useful for implementation. For decision making, he needs platform vendors to buy-in. Andrew has a plan to coordinate their buy-ins. Andrew is creating a gspec adoption table.h Current problem is this table is not enough granularity. Andrew is working on it. Steven made three sessions at OGF23. Andrew wants to talk about API; what is the right level of APIs. DRMAA? Andrew asks what the largest queuing system installation is. Steven answers several thousands as far as he knows. Steven wants to drill down this usecase rather than to collect another usecases at OGF23. Steven is unlikely to make a call next week. He will let Hiro and Andreas know if he wants to have another all on next week. Meeting adjourned 50 minutes mark.

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OGSA WSRF BP Interop
by Michel Drescher 15 May '08

15 May '08

Hi Rachana, as you were not on today's OGSA phone conference on the OGSA WSRF BP interop effort, we would like to ask your opinion on the following. On the call the group agreed to change the WSRF Profile's resource properties "ResourcePropertyNames" and "WSResourceInterfaces" to the WSRF style of Resource Properties. The group also discussed to proceed with the proposal on the WS- Notification issue, i.e. creating a profile-specific topic dialect as proposed on the Mailing List (respective E-Mail attached). Based on your earlier comments we conjecture that you would not object, but we would like to solicit that before we proceed. Cheers, and see you on the next call, Michel

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Minutes for WSRF BP interop session
by Donal K. Fellows 15 May '08

15 May '08

Here are the minutes of today's first session. Let me know if I missed anything important Donal. GENERAL BUSINESS Attendees: Mark Morgan Michel Drescher Vivian Li Hiro Kishimoto Andreas Savva Shiraz Memon Donal Fellows (note taker) Apologies: Dave Snelling Minutes: approved (3/4/08, 24/4/08) AI: no items to review (Andrew Grimshaw not present) INTEROP Come to a halt because of issues with RPs. AGREED: Change RP definitions as proposed, no dissention Notification Topics (encoding of namespaces for XPath): AI (Michel): Contact Rachana Ananthakrishnan from Globus directly to check that this is OK. How to proceed: Write up experiences from current interop round. No re-interop for RP changes. Try for another round of interop on notification, but only after draft of changes done. AI (Vivian): Start writeup of experience document; other participants to supply info as required AOB Next call: 29 May 2008, slot 1

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ISV Guide - Draft for discussion
by Steven Newhouse 15 May '08

15 May '08

Draft for discussion on the call... in a few hours. Steven

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[Invitation] ISV HTC usege primer @ Thu May 15 9am – 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 14 May '08

14 May '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: ISV HTC usege primer Time: Thu May 15 9am – 10am (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When:10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers: US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Minutes approval and AI review Minutes for approval May 8th call: Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist 3) ISV HPC usage primer (Steven Newhouse) 4) AoB You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=bTZudGo3Z2Y3ZjZrZWRtMT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] OGSA WSRF BP interop call @ Thu May 15 8am – 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 14 May '08

14 May '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: OGSA WSRF BP interop call Time: Thu May 15 8am – 9am (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK The dial-in number; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Minutes approval April 3rd call: April 24th call: Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist 3) OGSA WSRF profile inteop (David Snelling) Interop page - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1744 4) Proposal for fixing the specification Dave has checked with Ian Foster and Tom Maguire, co-authors on the OGSA BP, and we all three agree to the following: 1) We should create a profile specific topic for change notification to circumvent the problem with WS-Notification/WS-Topics. 2) We should change the representation of the plural QName lists from a [1..1] property contain a list to a [1..n] property with one QName each. 5) AoB You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=NHVscDk5ZWppbTh2NWt2cm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] High level spec @ 2008-05-12 5pm – 6pm ()
by OGSA WG 12 May '08

12 May '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: High level spec Time: 2008-05-12 5pm – 6pm (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK Dial-in numbers: US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist 2) High level specification discussion Continuation of April workshop discussion on access layer specifications. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=OTExMnFuMWV2ZmttYzU1bm… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] OGSA BSP 2.0 PC review @ 2008-05-12 6pm – 7pm ()
by OGSA WG 12 May '08

12 May '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: OGSA BSP 2.0 PC review Time: 2008-05-12 6pm – 7pm (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0512 Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Review BSP 2.0 public comments Public comments: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/discussion/do/listTopics/projects.ggf-editor… PC version: http://www.ogf.org/Public_Comment_Docs/Documents/2008-02/draft-gwdrp-ogsa-b… You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=aTVidGFpM2psMGoxZmZ2bj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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