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[Cancelled Event] ISV HTC primer @ Mon Jun 23 6pm – 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

Hiro Kishimoto cancelled the following event: Title: ISV HTC primer Time: Mon Jun 23 6pm – 7pm (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Minutes approval and AI review Minutes for approval May 15th call: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15260 OGF23 workshop: Action Item review https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/tracker/do/listArtifacts/projects.ogsa-wg/tr… 3) ISV HPC usage primer (Steven Newhouse) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15209 Draft for OGF23 workshop. 4) AoB You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] ISV HPC primer @ Mon Jun 23 6pm – 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 23 Jun '08

23 Jun '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: ISV HPC primer Time: Mon Jun 23 6pm – 7pm (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Minutes approval and AI review Minutes for approval May 15th call: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15260 OGF23 workshop: Action Item review https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/tracker/do/listArtifacts/projects.ogsa-wg/tr… 3) ISV HPC usage primer (Steven Newhouse) https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15209 Draft for OGF23 workshop. 4) AoB You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=ZDZvNjV2M20ydmZwYXE0cj… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Updated WSRF Basic Profile 1.0, draft 45
by Michel Drescher 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

Guys, following-up to today's call, I had another go at the profile document. I found several more occurrences of "ResourcePropertyNames" etc, and I removed them. Please find attached the new draft 45, available for comments. Cheers, Michel -- Michel Drescher Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe, Ltd. Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE Reg. No. 4153469 +44 20 8606 4834 Michel.Drescher(a)uk.fujitsu.com

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Teleconference minutes - 29 May 2008
by Andreas Savva 19 Jun '08

19 Jun '08

Minutes attached. I'll upload later. -- Andreas Savva OGSA Teleconference - 29 May 2008 - ISV HTC Usage Primer ======================================================== * Participants Donal Fellows Steven Newhouse Ellen Stokes Narfi Stefansson Andrew Grimshaw Andreas Savva * Summary of New Actions ACTION: Andreas to provide JSDL SPMD and Parameter Sweep text ACTION: Andrew will provide overview of OGSA BSP 2.0 ACTION: Andreas will check whether NAREGI supports for BES * May 15 minutes approved with no changes * Document review (version 0.3) Document updated by Steven during the call. ACTION: Andreas to provide JSDL SPMD and Parameter Sweep text - Section 4: Implementation architecture - Client: Added that security mechanisms may be required - Byte-IO is only needed if delivering interim results - Table: Removed WS-DAI, WSRF BP as they are not used ACTION: Andrew will provide overview of OGSA BSP 2.0 ACTION: Andreas will check whether NAREGI supports for BES The document will be reviewed at the OGF23 session - Steven will add line numbers - Donal will send Steven the OGF template * OGF23 sessions - Andrew will lead SDK/API - Steven will lead the middle section OGSA Teleconference - 28 May 2008 - WSRF BP Interop =================================================== * Participants Joe Bester Donal Fellows Tom Howe Vivian Lee Andreas Savva Apologies: Michel Drescher, Mark Morgan, Hiro Kishimoto * Summary of New Action ACTION: Vivian will ask each project to check the table and update their information ACTION: Tom will update the Globus entries ACTION: Andreas will ask Mark about getting the Genesis II endpoint back up ACTION: Vivian will check with Michel that the example is complete and correct * Postponed minutes approval * Interop document review - Fix header information. Andreas will send Vivian an example. - Delete 'Obsoletes' section as it is not applicable - Table 1 needs update by each project ACTION: Vivian will ask each project to check the table and update their information - Interop tables need update with final results from each project. ACTION: Tom will update the Globus entries ACTION: Andreas will ask Mark about getting the Genesis II endpoint back up - Formatting: Make identified issues into sections - English: Change 'discovered' to 'identified' - WS-Notification example seems incomplete. ACTION: Vivian will check with Michel that the example is complete and correct - Contributors section needs update. Add at least Tom Howe, Dave Snelling. Vivian will prepare an update version before the OGF23 OGSA session next week.

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[Invitation] WSRF BP interop @ Thu Jun 19 8am – 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 18 Jun '08

18 Jun '08

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: WSRF BP interop Time: Thu Jun 19 8am – 9am (Timezone: Central Time) Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK The dial-in number; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Germany: +49 (0)69 50070802 (Frankfurt) Switzerland: +41 (0)1 8009574 (Zurich) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Note taker assignment - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1848 Roll call Agenda bashing 2) Minutes approval and AI review (see the bottom of this agenda) Minutes approval May 29th call: Action Item review http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/ailist 3) Experimental document status (Vivian Li) 4) AoB You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=azA4N2psNWo4OHRkc3JyOT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Two security profiles are published as GFD
by Hiro Kishimoto 15 Jun '08

15 Jun '08

Hi Duane and OGSA-WG, Two security profiles are published as GFD. GFD.132: Secure Communication Profile 1.0 GFD.131: Secure Addressing Profile 1.0 http://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/?final Thank you very much for your excellent work. -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Re: [ogsa-wg] [DRMAA-WG] Grid Command Line interfaces
by Daniel Templeton 04 Jun '08

04 Jun '08

DRMAA is narrowly focused on offering an API, but as was already pointed out, as soon as you have a Perl binding (which we do), the API itself also becomes a set of commands. Daniel Andre Merzky wrote: > Well, DRMAA is an API specification as well, so does not > really define command line tools in the spec. There are a > number of tools available, but I am not qualified to say if > the DRMAA group intended to have a complete API mapping, or > plan to standardize these tools, etc. > > Cc to the DRMAA group, maybe they have input on the topic... > > Quoting [Omer F. Rana] (Jun 04 2008): > >> Date: Wed, 04 Jun 2008 16:35:13 +0100 >> From: "Omer F. Rana" <o.f.rana(a)cs.cardiff.ac.uk> >> To: Andre Merzky <andre(a)merzky.net> >> Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] Grid Command Line interfaces >> >> Hi Andre, >> >> Thanks. It might be useful to understand the relationship between these >> and commands provided >> in DRMAA perhaps? Just a thought. >> >> best wishes >> Omer >> >> Andre Merzky wrote: >> >>> Hi Omer >>> >>> Quoting [Omer F. Rana] (Jun 04 2008): >>> >>> >>>> Hi, >>>> >>>> Doesn't DRMAA already do this? >>>> >>>> Andre: I thought the aim of SAGA was to provide a programmatic >>>> API rather than a command line tools interface? >>>> >>>> >>> Of course, you are perfectly right. However, several people >>> (including our won group) use SAGA for the purpose to write >>> such command line tools (which are then middleware >>> independent), and thus we considered mappings from the SAGA >>> API to command line tools since quite a while... >>> >>> Best, Andre. >>> >>> >>> >>>> regards >>>> Omer >>>> >>>> Steven Newhouse wrote: >>>> >>>> >>>>> It may make sense to define common tools for job: >>>>> >>>>> Submit >>>>> Status >>>>> Terminate >>>>> >>>>> I'm not sure what broader interest we would have to do generic SAGA >>>>> commands. >>>>> >>>>> Steven >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>>> -----Original Message----- >>>>>> From: Andre Merzky [mailto:andre@merzky.net] >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, June 04, 2008 2:48 PM >>>>>> To: Steven Newhouse >>>>>> Cc: Andre Merzky; ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org; ogsa-hpcp-wg(a)ogf.org >>>>>> Subject: Re: [ogsa-wg] Grid Command Line interfaces >>>>>> >>>>>> Quoting [Steven Newhouse] (Jun 04 2008): >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>>> is a SAGA command line binding something you would >>>>>>>> conider worth pursuing? We actually started to do >>>>>>>> something like that, in a pet project... >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>>> >>>>>>> Do you mean the ability to implement any defined command >>>>>>> line interface using the SAGA APIs? (i.e. internal to the >>>>>>> command) Or To define a set of command line tools to cover >>>>>>> elements of the SAGA API? >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> The latter. For example, for the SAGA call >>>>>> >>>>>> class saga::filesystem::file >>>>>> { >>>>>> void copy (saga::url src, saga::url tgt, it flags); >>>>>> } >>>>>> >>>>>> define the command line tool >>>>>> >>>>>> saga_file_copy [flags] <src> <tgt> >>>>>> >>>>>> flags: >>>>>> session related flags >>>>>> -s|--session <s> run command in session s >>>>>> -c|--context <c> use context c >>>>>> >>>>>> operational flags >>>>>> -a|--async=<Sync|Async|Task> >>>>>> use async mode Sync, Async or Task >>>>>> default is Sync >>>>>> call specific flags >>>>>> -r|--recursive copy recursively >>>>>> -o|--overwrite overwrite target if exists >>>>>> ... >>>>>> >>>>>> So, the command line tools would basically reflect what we >>>>>> define in the SAGA API spec, with a set of flags which are >>>>>> consistent for all command line tools such defined. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> A session could look like: >>>>>> >>>>>> # saga_create_context --name=my_context --type=UserPass --user=anon >>>>>> <prompts for password> >>>>>> >>>>>> # saga_create_session --name my_session --add_context=my_context >>>>>> >>>>>> # /bin/date | saga_file_cat --session=my_session --write >>>>>> gsiftp://localhost/tmp/in.dat >>>>>> >>>>>> # saga_file_copy --session=my_session gsiftp://localhost/tmp/in.dat >>>>>> gsiftp://remotehost/tmp/out.dat >>>>>> >>>>>> # saga_file_cat --session=my_session gsiftp://remotehost/tmp/out.dat >>>>>> Wed Jun 4 14:43:27 CEST 2008 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> or, with some default assumptions of course (default session >>>>>> and context): >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> # /bin/date | saga_file_cat --write gsiftp://localhost/tmp/in.dat >>>>>> # saga_file_copy gsiftp://localhost/tmp/in.dat >>>>>> gsiftp://remotehost/tmp/out.dat >>>>>> # saga_file_cat gsiftp://remotehost/tmp/out.dat >>>>>> Wed Jun 4 14:43:27 CEST 2008 >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> Best, Andre. >>>>>> >>>>>> PS.: As for option (a) of yours: yes, that would be trivial to >>>>>> implement in SAGA :-) Well, at least it would be easy (one >>>>>> needs to add some magick for state management, to keep track >>>>>> of async ops and security credentials between separate calls >>>>>> to different tools. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>>> Steven >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>>> >>>>>> -- >>>>>> Nothing is ever easy. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>> -- >>>>> ogsa-wg mailing list >>>>> ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org >>>>> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogsa-wg >>>>>

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Updated WSRF BP document
by Michel Drescher 04 Jun '08

04 Jun '08

Folks, in some spare time I dared updating the WSRF BP Word document as taken from Gridforge. Please find the new version attached (draft 47, document revision 44) - I feel uneasy trying to put it on Gridforge... Please comment. Cheers, Michel -- Michel Drescher Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe, Ltd. Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE Reg. No. 4153469 +44 20 8606 4834 Michel.Drescher(a)uk.fujitsu.com

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Grid Command Line interfaces
by Steven Newhouse 04 Jun '08

04 Jun '08

At the discussion in the workshop today we discussed defining a command line interface to interact with the HPCBP/BES service. Oxana pointes us to these tools generated by Nordu Grid. > I meant the NorduGrid's ARC CLI and API. The "classic" pre-BES CLI and > API are documented here: > > http://www.nordugrid.org/documents/ui.pdf > http://www.nordugrid.org/documents/arclib.pdf > > and the new BES-compatible prototypes here: > > http://www.nordugrid.org/documents/arc1-clients.pdf > > Hope it helps, > Oxana

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Re: [ogsa-wg] Grid Command Line interfaces
by Hugo Mills 04 Jun '08

04 Jun '08

On Wed, Jun 04, 2008 at 02:48:25PM +0100, Omer F. Rana wrote: > Andre: I thought the aim of SAGA was to provide a programmatic > API rather than a command line tools interface? If you're a shell programmer (as I tend to be these days), the command-line tools *are* the API binding for the language... Hugo. -- Hugo Mills <hugo(a)soton.ac.uk | hugo(a)omii.ac.uk> OMII-UK, Southampton, SO18 1NP, UK

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