June 2007 - ogsa-wg - lists.ogf.org

JSDL documents in public comment
by Andreas Savva 20 Jun '07

20 Jun '07

[Apologies for the cross-posting.] This is a reminder that JSDL-WG has two documents in public comment until July 10. We'd appreciate people reviewing these documents and posting their comments to the public comment tracker. In particular the "JSDL HPC Profile Application Extension" document has already been implemented as part of the HPC Profile SC06 interop. It would be fine for people that have already implemented it to put in a comment to that effect. The second document "JSDL SPMD Application Extension" addresses MPI application requirements. Both documents are fairly short and should not take too long for you to review. > I'd like to alert you to two new documents that have started public > comment. Please find all documents in public comment here: > http://www.ogf.org/gf/docs/?public_comment > > For the recommendation track: > > JSDL HPC Profile Application Extension, Version 1.0. M. Humphrey > et al., via JSDL-WG. > > JSDL SPMD Application Extension, Version 1.0. A. Savva, via > JSDL-WG. > -- Andreas Savva

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[Reminder] Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw and Duane... @ 2007-06-18 17:00 - 18:00 ()
by Google Calendar 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw and Duane Merrill) Time: 2007-06-18 17:00 - 18:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval Action Item Review Agenda bashing 2) Express Authentication Profiles review (Andrew and Duane) Current drafts (4 documents) - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spuc Issue tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/isuc - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spsa - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spss - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/spst Blair's comments Minutes approval Apr. 31: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14579 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dnA4NWFuMGhzYmszNm1uYT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Teleconference minutes - 18 June 2007 - Roadmap
by Andreas Savva 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

Attached and on Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14620?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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[Invitation] AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) @ 2007-06-21 9am - 10am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: AuthZ-WG joint call (David Chadwick and Alan Sill) Time: 2007-06-21 9am - 10am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/?key=0621 Calendar: Description: When: 10-11am EDT, 9-10am CDT, 7-8am PDT, 11pm-midnight JST, 3-4pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA AuthZ-WG update (David Chadwick) 3) OGSA-AuthN-Wg update (Alan Sill) You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dGJjNm9nc2o4cjUzZnY1Ym… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) @ 2007-06-21 8am - 9am ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 19 Jun '07

19 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: General/Logistics (Hiro Kishimoto) Time: 2007-06-21 8am - 9am (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 9-10am EDT, 8-9am CDT, 6-7am PDT, 10-11pm JST, 2-3pm UK Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 PIN: 71815 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) OGSA Primer review (Andrew 30 min) - Agreed that the proposed structure of this document is fine. - Andrew is working on a new draft. He is updating the infrastructure section. He will upload a new draft by the next call. 3) August F2F meeting update (30 min Hiro) Minutes approval June 11: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14606 Action Item review AI-0511c: Steve Newhouse volunteered to look into the possible next documents for the EMS Architecture and draw up a proposal AI-0511d: Hiro to do another zoomerang to confirm summer F2F dates Hiro has issued the survey. He has received only 10 responses. Hiro will re-send the request and include who has replied so far AI-0611f: Dave S will use the HPC Profile wiki page as a starting point and produce a first draft for the interop wiki page, by the July 2 call AI-0611g: Jem will ask the people involved in the HP WSRF implementation about the possibility of taking part in the interop. AI-0611h: Once the wiki page is set up, Hiro will ask the IBM and HP OGF Board members for their teams to take part. You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=YXZibGI3cjFmanE4c3RtMX… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw and Duane... @ 2007-06-18 5pm - 6pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 18 Jun '07

18 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Express Authentication Profile (Andrew Grimshaw and Duane Merrill) Time: 2007-06-18 5pm - 6pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 6-7pm EDT, 5-6pm CDT, 3-4pm PDT, 7-8am JST, 11pm-midnight UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Minutes approval Action Item Review Agenda bashing 2) Express Authentication Profiles review (Andrew and Duane) Issue tracker Blair's comments Minutes approval Apr. 31: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14579 Action Item review You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=dnA4NWFuMGhzYmszNm1uYT… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Reminder] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-06-18 18:00 - 19:00 ()
by Google Calendar 17 Jun '07

17 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, this is a reminder for Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-06-18 18:00 - 19:00 (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval June 4: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14580 Action Item review * AI-0402d: Chris J to add new table for 5.2.2 (Core) * AI-0416a: Chris J to confirm the adoption levels for the WS-Addressing and WSRF and WS-N specs * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416d: Michael B to remove IUDD from text (ACS entry) * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap * AI-0604a: Michael B will check SOAP/http usage in Architecture document and update text, probably to say just 'SOAP' * AI-0604b: Michael B will check the formatting of "web services" term and make it consistent through the document * AI-0604c: Michael will revise Figure according to comments You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=cWRxOTE5MDBvdjg2Mm1mZ2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Updated Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-06-18 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 16 Jun '07

16 Jun '07

Details for the following event have changed: Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-06-18 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval June 4: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14580 Action Item review * AI-0402d: Chris J to add new table for 5.2.2 (Core) * AI-0416a: Chris J to confirm the adoption levels for the WS-Addressing and WSRF and WS-N specs * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416d: Michael B to remove IUDD from text (ACS entry) * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap * AI-0604a: Michael B will check SOAP/http usage in Architecture document and update text, probably to say just 'SOAP' * AI-0604b: Michael B will check the formatting of "web services" term and make it consistent through the document * AI-0604c: Michael will revise Figure according to comments You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=cWRxOTE5MDBvdjg2Mm1mZ2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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[Invitation] Roadmap (Chris Jordan) @ 2007-06-18 6pm - 7pm ()
by Hiro Kishimoto 16 Jun '07

16 Jun '07

ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org, you are invited to Title: Roadmap (Chris Jordan) Time: 2007-06-18 6pm - 7pm (Central Time) Where: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Calendar: Description: When: 7-8pm EDT, 6-7pm CDT, 4-5pm PDT, 8-9am JST, midnight-1am UK The dial-in number for Monday; US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 (0)207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 (0)3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) PIN: 4371991 See more information: - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 Screen share service: URL: http://ogsa.glance.net/ Usage: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 Note: ** OGF IPR POLICY APPLIES ** http://www.ogf.org/About/abt_policies.php 1) Early discussion Social study notification - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1717 Note taker assignment Roll call Agenda bashing 2) roadmap document review roadmap v1.1 draft - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13733 Issue Tracker - http://forge.ogf.org/short/ogsa-wg/roadmap11 Minutes approval June 4: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14580 Action Item review * AI-0402d: Chris J to add new table for 5.2.2 (Core) * AI-0416a: Chris J to confirm the adoption levels for the WS-Addressing and WSRF and WS-N specs * AI-0416b: Chris J to ask andrew grimshaw for implementation status of WS-Naming * AI-0416c: Andreas S to update JSDL entry * AI-0416d: Michael B to remove IUDD from text (ACS entry) * AI-0416e: Chris J to remove IUDD from the spreadsheet * AI-0416f: Chris J to look into status of RSS (Donal Fellows) and whether it should be included in the Roadmap * AI-0604a: Michael B will check SOAP/http usage in Architecture document and update text, probably to say just 'SOAP' * AI-0604b: Michael B will check the formatting of "web services" term and make it consistent through the document * AI-0604c: Michael will revise Figure according to comments You can view this event at http://www.google.com/calendar/event?action=VIEW&eid=cWRxOTE5MDBvdjg2Mm1mZ2… You are receiving this courtesy email at the account ogsa-wg(a)ogf.org because you are an attendee of this event. To stop receiving future notifications for this event, decline this event. Alternatively you can sign up for a Google Calendar account at http://www.google.com/calendar/ and control your notification settings for your entire calendar.

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Teleconference minutes - 14 June 2007 - Workflow
by Andreas Savva 15 Jun '07

15 Jun '07

Workflow call minutes are attached. Gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14616?nav=1 OGSA Teleconference - 14 June 2007 - Workflow ============================================= * Participants Donal Fellows (UMAN) Andrew Grimshaw (UVA) Chris Kantarjiev (Oracle) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Steve McGough (IC) Mark Morgan (UVA) Steven Newhouse (Microsoft) Bahareh Rahmanzadeh Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) Adrian Toth (Univ of Miskolc) Minutes: Andreas Savva * Approved Minutes with no changes - Apr. 26: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14416 - OGF20 workflow: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc1445 - OGF20 F2F: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14536 * Summary of New Actions AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services AI-0614b: Andreas will put the initial presentation points on the wiki AI-0614c: Andreas will put the initial questionnaire points on the wiki AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF - Assign AI-0508a to Donal Fellows * Action Items Review ** AI-0508a: - The action to contact Taverna has no owner - One immediate question, following from the OGF20 discussion, is whether contacting projects for end-user use cases is the right approach - They might have actual use cases; it is worth asking - Taverna is based in Manchester and Donal is the person closest - Donal agreed to contact them, but cannot do so until the week after next - This is not a problem since the next workflow call is in three weeks time - Eventually ask them to do a introductory presentation (see discussion further down) - Assigned action to Donal - Andreas will send reminder to Donal after 1 week * Recap of discussion from the last F2F and followup - Consensus at the last F2F was for a community practice document, before making any decisions on technical work. - Who will contribute? - No volunteers at this time. - Some people indicated that they would be interested in the output; but not to work on producing it - Which language? Unclear - Does it include tools in addition to languages? - Yes, if we are dealing with end user requirements. - Donal mentioned that his current project has a relevant survey report (a project deliverable) but unfortunately it cannot be released yet - It was suggested that the goal should be to do workflow with the services currently available/defined (BES, etc) - What tools are people using? - Windows Workflow was mentioned. Also Platform, Kepler, ... AI-0614a: Steven Newhouse will check whether Windows Workflow can also be used with CCS / BES style services - Andrew volunteered to contact the Kepler project and arrange for a 30 minutes presentation on a future call; with a focus on the use cases they are addressing. - Agreed to postpone this until the group can work out in more detail what the presentations should focus on - Andrew will send an email with the url of their website [done] ** Agreed on the following approach - Prepare a questionnaire and ask projects to fill it in - Select which projects to invite to give presentations based on the questionnaire replies - Provide an outline or key points that the presentations should address - Send invitations to projects once we decide what the presentations should focus on ** Suggested presentation points (initial draft) - How web services fit in - How security is handled - What use cases are addressed - What standard tooling and standards are being using AI-0614b: Andreas will put the initial presentation points on the wiki ** Suggested questionnaire points (initial draft) - User base: grid or not - Technologies used: web services, or .. - Standard tools and standards are they basing their work on - If using a standard why did you choose it? - if chose to build your own; why? - User's key requirements; key decision making - number of deployments/ and how many users they have - What is their future release plan, i.e., where are they planning to be after one year (there were some reservations with adding this in) AI-0614c: Andreas will put the initial questionnaire points on the wiki ** Initial candidate list for presentations - Taverna - Kepler - Triana - OMII-bpel - Microsoft - Platform - Condor - Unicore - ... AI-0614d: Steve McGough will compile the list and put it on the wiki In addition to sending emails to specific projects it was agreed to send emails to the OGSA-WG list and to other related lists. One other list mentioned was the Workflow Management RG. Even though their current focus might be different. There are a number of communities represented there. ** Other input There was an ad-hoc BOF on workflow at the Berlin GGF. It might be worth reviewing the material from there, if available. AI-0614e: Steve McGough will look for the workflow material from the Berlin GGF * Next workflow call -- July 5th

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