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Action Items from OGSA-WG F2F
by Hiro Kishimoto 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Hi Andrew and Manuel, The following is your Action Items from OGSA and fellow WG F2F meeting. Please take them from here. - Frank Siebenlist, David Snelling Inline the "informational document" (written by D. Snelling & F. Siebenlist) into the normative specification document - Mark Morgan Add the formal element declaration of the ReferenceResolver (and the new element and its type) to the normative document. - Andrew Grimshaw Clarify the document purpose (as being a specification rather a profile) and align with the OGSA formal formatting. - David Snelling, Frank Siebenlist The "Web Service Endpoint Address Identifier Profile" needs to be added to the formal WS-Naming specification. - unassigned (tentatively: Frank, David) Write up the ResolverReferral solution that has been discussed at GGF17 and feed back into the WS-Naming group Thanks, -- Hiro Kishimoto

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Updated: OGSA Teleconference
by Andreas Savva 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

BEGIN:VCALENDAR PRODID:-//Microsoft Corporation//Outlook 11.0 MIMEDIR//EN VERSION:2.0 METHOD:REQUEST BEGIN:VEVENT ATTENDEE;ROLE=REQ-PARTICIPANT;RSVP=TRUE:MAILTO:ogsa-wg@gridforum.org ORGANIZER:MAILTO:andreas.savva@jp.fujitsu.com DTSTART:20060803T133000Z DTEND:20060803T153000Z TRANSP:OPAQUE SEQUENCE:3 UID:040000008200E00074C5B7101A82E0080000000000997D7960B5C6010000000000000000100 000001E68E842CF51A14191E3B4C9913315BE DTSTAMP:20060802T084426Z DESCRIPTION:When: 2006年8月3日木曜日 22:30 to 2006年8月4日金曜日 0:30 (GMT+09:00) 大阪、札幌、東京.\n\n*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*~*\n\n<pre>\n\nDial-in numbers for Thursday:\n Free: +1-888-452-0308\n Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505\n PIN: 71815\n\nScreen share service will be provided.\n URL: http://ogsa.glance.net\n Session key: 0803\nSee more explanation:\nhttp://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/m sg00077.html\n\n1) Early discussion (20 min)\n Note taker assignment\n Roll call\n Telecon minutes approval (July 31)\n - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13712?nav=1\n Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email)\n Agenda bashing\n\n2) July F2F meeting approval (Hiro and Andreas\, 20 min)\n Materials and minutes are available at meeting folder\nhttps://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.og sa-wg/docman.root.meeting_materials_and_minutes.interim_meetings.2006_summe r_interim\n\n Approve minutes 20060720-am-{1\,2\,3} and of\n the Joint Mgmt committee meeting.\n\n3) CDDLM joint discussion (Jun\, Dejan\, and Hiro\, 60 min)\n minutes from OGSA F2F meeting on July 20.\n> PROPOSAL 1a: Use XPath 2.0 as an interface between the CDL document \n> and the CDL components\n> PROPOSAL 1b: Use xsd:ID/xsd:IDREF to allow relations between elements in\n> CDL documents\n> \n> * Proposals 1a and 1b are recommendations for the further development of CDDLM\n> \n> PROPOSAL 2: Eliminate the EnvironmentVariable concept from the PosixComponent\n> (CDL plugin)\n> \n> * Proposal 2 is specific to the OGSA EMS scenarios document.\n\n See attached minutes.\n\n4) Wrap up (10 min)\n AOB\n\n<*NEXT CALL*>\nAug. 7 (Mon): Security (Takuya and Frank)\nAug. 10 (Thu): EMS scenarios (Andreas and Steven)\nAug. 14 (Mon): Roadmap (Chris)\nAug. 17 (Thu): Info/data model (Ellen and Fred)\,\n EMS and data joint scenarios (Allen and Steven)\nAug. 21 (Mon):\nAug. 24 (Thu): CDDLM joint (Jun\, Dejan\, and Hiro)\nAug. 28 (Mon): Security (Takuya and Frank)\nAug. 31 (Thu): EMS scenarios (Andreas and Steven)\nSept. 4 (Mon): No call (Labor Day)\nSept. 7 (Thu): Roadmap (Chris)\, GGF18 prep (Tom and Hiro)\n\n<*ACTION ITEMS*>\n\n > From July 31 call\n- Ellen to send an email to Chris Jordan with the information\n needed to add these two documents to the OGSA Roadmap\n- Hiro Schedule a joint call with OGSA-Data to explain the\n Information model work before GGF18.\n + This could be one agenda item on the joing EMS/Data call\n already being schedule.\n\n > From July 20 F2F\n- Andreas and Hiro to revise the EMS scenario document (i.e. examples)\n so that proposal 2 is fulfilled\n + Andreas will merge Hiro's updates into the next draft\n- Jun to feed back proposals 1a and 1b to the CDDLM Working Group\,\n i.e. pass back the minutes to the WG. Ask Michel in case of any\n questions related to these proposals.\n- EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to\n contribute use cases.\n- Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to\n Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes.\n\n > From July 17 F2F\n- BES-WG chairs to ask the data group to define the\n filesystems as their work product\n\n<postponed>\n- Steve McGough & Andreas to do a mapping from the current JSDL\n elements / terminology into the new information model structure\n (Proposed split into Description and Requirements)\n (from July 18th F2F\, postpone until Aug. 17)\n\n</pre>\n SUMMARY:Updated: OGSA Teleconference PRIORITY:5 X-MICROSOFT-CDO-IMPORTANCE:1 CLASS:PUBLIC END:VEVENT END:VCALENDAR

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Proposed agenda for Aug. 3rd call
by Hiro Kishimoto 02 Aug '06

02 Aug '06

Hi all, The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Aug. 3rd Thursday from 8:30am - 10:30am (CDT). Dial-in numbers for Thursday: Free: +1-888-452-0308 Intl/Toll: +1-484-644-0505 PIN: 71815 Screen share service will be provided. URL: http://ogsa.glance.net Session key: 0803 See more explanation: http://www-unix.gridforum.org/mail_archive/ogsa-wg/2004/06/msg00077.html 1) Early discussion (20 min) Note taker assignment Roll call Telecon minutes approval (July 31) - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13712?nav=1 Action Items status review (see the bottom of this email) Agenda bashing 2) July F2F meeting approval (Hiro and Andreas, 20 min) Materials and minutes are available at meeting folder https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.ogsa-wg/doc… Approve minutes 20060720-am-{1,2,3} and of the Joint Mgmt committee meeting. 3) CDDLM joint discussion (Jun, Dejan, and Hiro, 60 min) minutes from OGSA F2F meeting on July 20. > PROPOSAL 1a: Use XPath 2.0 as an interface between the CDL document > and the CDL components > PROPOSAL 1b: Use xsd:ID/xsd:IDREF to allow relations between elements in > CDL documents > > * Proposals 1a and 1b are recommendations for the further development of CDDLM > > PROPOSAL 2: Eliminate the EnvironmentVariable concept from the PosixComponent > (CDL plugin) > > * Proposal 2 is specific to the OGSA EMS scenarios document. See attached minutes. 4) Wrap up (10 min) AOB <*NEXT CALL*> Aug. 7 (Mon): Security (Takuya and Frank) Aug. 10 (Thu): EMS scenarios (Andreas and Steven) Aug. 14 (Mon): Roadmap (Chris) Aug. 17 (Thu): Info/data model (Ellen and Fred), EMS and data joint scenarios (Allen and Steven) Aug. 21 (Mon): Aug. 24 (Thu): CDDLM joint (Jun, Dejan, and Hiro) Aug. 28 (Mon): Security (Takuya and Frank) Aug. 31 (Thu): EMS scenarios (Andreas and Steven) Sept. 4 (Mon): No call (Labor Day) Sept. 7 (Thu): Roadmap (Chris), GGF18 prep (Tom and Hiro) <*ACTION ITEMS*> > From July 31 call - Ellen to send an email to Chris Jordan with the information needed to add these two documents to the OGSA Roadmap - Hiro Schedule a joint call with OGSA-Data to explain the Information model work before GGF18. + This could be one agenda item on the joing EMS/Data call already being schedule. > From July 20 F2F - Andreas and Hiro to revise the EMS scenario document (i.e. examples) so that proposal 2 is fulfilled + Andreas will merge Hiro's updates into the next draft - Jun to feed back proposals 1a and 1b to the CDDLM Working Group, i.e. pass back the minutes to the WG. Ask Michel in case of any questions related to these proposals. - EGR-WG (Ravi) will contact Geoffrey Fox and invites him to contribute use cases. - Andreas to go through the minutes and formulate a reply mail to Geoffrey on each artifact covered in these minutes. > From July 17 F2F - BES-WG chairs to ask the data group to define the filesystems as their work product <postponed> - Steve McGough & Andreas to do a mapping from the current JSDL elements / terminology into the new information model structure (Proposed split into Description and Requirements) (from July 18th F2F, postpone until Aug. 17) -- Hiro Kishimoto ** Participants ** David Snelling, Fujitsu Hiro Kishimooto, Fujitsu Andreas Savva, Fujitsu Michel Drescher, Fujitsu Jay Unger, IBM Jun Tatemura, NEC (via phone) * Jun walks the group through the document "Designing a POSIX component in CDL" written by Jun and with latest edits from Hiro. * Hiro asks Jun to correct his edits while walking through the document. - The newly added elements "cmp:CodeBase" and "bcp:ArchiveType" are effectively the same as "bcp:Binary". * An example in the document is provided how to use these elemeents. * Andreas asks whether the "cdl:ArchiveTye" element is a global element, or an anonmous sub-element of "cdl:PosixApplication". * bcp:PosixApplication is a base type. It is extended to e.g. define the BLAST appplication ddescription for a CDDLM system. * [example XML document] Andreas asks whether the name of a declared file system can be a child element instead of being part of the element name itself. - Yes, this is possible, as given in a proposal later in this document. * Andreas asks whether there is a way to define that the value of an element comes from another element in that CDL document, or whether that is out of scope of CDDLM. - It is not defined by either CDL language spec or component model spec. It should be part of the BasicPosixComponent spec. * Hiro proposes to remove the Environment Variable concept from CDDLM. - Because components can give predefined information that otherwise would have to be encoded in Environment Variables. - The Environment Variables concept os too general to transport such semantically special information like cdl:Hostname (where the applicaiton is to be deployed to). * The group discusses the Environment Variable cconcept, particularly the possibility that, through CDL, the values of certain environment variables can be retrieved from the target deployment system. The group shows consensus that the CDL document needs to carry enviroment variables that must be set on the target system so that the configured application can run. * The group discusses the relationships between "cdl:FileSystem" declarations and the definition of "lazy environment variables". In particular, the group is wondering about the exact mechanismms how the operation that provides the provisioning of the requested FileSystem feeds back the moint point of that file system into the appropriate environment variable PROPOSAL 1a: Use XPath 2.0 as an interface between the CDL document and the CDL components PROPOSAL 1b: Use xsd:ID/xsd:IDREF to allow relations between elements in CDL documents * Proposals 1a and 1b are recommendations for the further development of CDDLM PROPOSAL 2: Eliminate the EnvironmentVariable concept from the PosixComponent (CDL plugin) * Proposal 2 is specific to the OGSA EMS scenarios document. ** Action Items ** 1) Revise the scenario document (i.e. examples) so that proposal 2 is fulfilled (Andreas, Hiro) 2) Feed back proposals 1a and 1b to the CDDLM Working Group, i.e. pass back the minutes to the WG. Ask Michel in case of any questions related to these proposals. (Jun)

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OGSA F2F RNS/GFS minutes uploaded
by Christopher Jordan 01 Aug '06

01 Aug '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 I've uploaded the minutes of the F2F RNS/GFS session to GridForge. Hiro and Andreas, please feel free to edit them or e-mail me to add anything I may have missed, as I was simultaneously presenting and trying to listen, so it's easily conceivable that I didn't get it all. The minutes are available at: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13713?nav=1 Thanks, Chris Jordan Data Reliability Manager San Diego Supercomputer Center ctjordan(a)sdsc.edu 858.534.8347 "Mother, I feel so far away from everything." - The Enigma of Kaspar Hauser -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.1 (Darwin) iD8DBQFEztzEPCVtcXn6kg8RAvrzAJ0Tp5zVjWNGcpvgnPi+7T0ToCNATACfcvzt bfdri5KJYE7XxfGB9yZZsgs= =KYhV -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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Teleconference minutes - 31 July 2006
by Andreas Savva 01 Aug '06

01 Aug '06

Minutes attached. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13712?nav=1 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd OGSA Teleconference - 31 July 2006 ================================== * Participants Chris Jordan (SDSC) Hiro Kishimoto (Fujitsu) Fred Maciel (Hitachi) Andreas Savva (Fujitsu) Ellen Stokes (IBM) Jem Treadwell (HP) Jay Unger (IBM) Ken Wood (Hitachi) Minutes: Andreas Savva * July 13 minutes approved with no changes * Summary of new actions ACTION: Ellen to send an email to Chris Jordan with the information needed to add these two documents to the OGSA Roadmap ACTION: Chris jordan to upload GFS and Roadmap minutes ACTION: Schedule a joint call with OGSA-Data to explain the Information model work before GGF18. - This could be one agenda item on the joing EMS/Data call already being schedule. - Ellen is unavailable from Aug 18 to Sep 4. * Action items review [Only items with updates are shown below] - Andreas and Hiro to revise the EMS scenario document (i.e. examples) so that proposal 2 is fulfilled + Andreas will merge Hiro's updates into the next draft - Michel to brain dump on difference between hold, suspend, cancel. - Michel to talk to Dave on BES design pattern. + Both of these are OGSA-DMI and should be left to that WG. Delete from this list. - Steve McGough & Andreas to do a mapping from the current JSDL elements / terminology into the new information model structure (Proposed split into Description and Requirements) + This is for the September OGF but some discussion/review on a call before the meeting might be good. Leave it on the list but there is no need to review progress on each call. Check again at the next Information Model call. + Agreed to move the Information Model discussion from Aug'14 to Aug'17 so that a prospective participant from Italy can join. - Frank Siebenlist, David Snelling Inline the "informational document" (written by D. Snelling & F. Siebenlist) into the normative specification document - Mark Morgan Add the formal element declaration of the ReferenceResolver (and the new element and its type) to the normative document. - Andrew Grimshaw Clarify the document purpose (as being a specification rather a profile) and align with the OGSA formal formatting. - David Snelling, Frank Siebenlist The "Web Service Endpoint Address Identifier Profile" needs to be added to the formal WS-Naming specification. - unassigned (tentatively: Frank, David) Write up the ResolverReferral solution that has been discussed at GGF17 and feed back into the WS-Naming group + These five actions are for OGSA-Naming and should be left to that WG. Delete from this list. - Marvin to do first draft of BES parallel state - draft schema - worked examples for identified specialized states Andrew and Dave S have volunteered to review the document + This action is for the HPC-Profile/BES-WG and should be deleted from this list. - BES-WG chairs to ask the data group to define the filesystems as their work product + This is BES & Data action and fits in a more general discussion between EMS & Data. Include it on an agenda of a joint EMS/Data call. * July F2F minutes review ** Discussed ways of making the meeting materials more approachable. - Agreed as proposed by Andreas that in the future the Agenda/Meeting overview should be done in the Wiki and that it should be updated with links to the minutes and presentations of each session. Also a short conclusion to each session should be put in this meeting wiki page - The meeting folder do not need to be organized differently. ** Minutes of 20060717-am_1 (Info Model) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060718-am_1 (Info Model) - approved with no changes - Discussed deliverables of the Info Model design team. - Agreed to stay with the current two document structure of a guidelines (Fred) and position/architecture (Ellen) document. - There are a number of actions on various groups (BES mainly, but also HPCP and JSDL) to provide input and these should be added to the expected material for GGF18. ACTION: Ellen to send an email to Chris Jordan with the information needed to add these two documents to the OGSA Roadmap ** Minutes of 20060717-am_2 (Data) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060717-pm (BES) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060718-am_2 (BES) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060718-am_bes2 (BES) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060717-pm-2 (HPCP) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060718-pm_1 (Naming) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060718-pm_3 (Ad hoc JSDL) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060719-am_1 (DMI) - approved with no changes ** Minutes of 20060719-am_2 (GGF18) - approved with no changes ** Postponed approval of remaining minutes 20060720-am-{1,2,3} and of the Joint Mgmt committee meeting. ACTION: Chris jordan to upload GFS and Roadmap minutes * Information model Discussion of Information Model postponed. As discussed(?) during the F2F a joint call with Data should be arranged. ACTION: Schedule a joint call with OGSA-Data to explain the Information model work before GGF18. - This could be one agenda item on the joing EMS/Data call already being schedule. - Ellen is unavailable from Aug 18 to Sep 4.

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