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Agenda for Tuesday's telcon
by Dave Berry 06 Jan '07

06 Jan '07

Dear PC, Here is a draft agenda for Tuesday's telephone conference. Time: 8am PST / 10am CST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET / 2am JST / 3am Sydney International dialin: +44 145 254 2309 USA Freephone: 1 866 838 0046 UK number: 0845 245 0224 Australia Freephone: 180 010 9603 Passcode: 275359 Topics for discussion: - Review of current event outline - Speaker suggestions (encouraging people to contribute proposals) - Roles of PC sub-groups I attach a draft outline of the event. Best wishes, Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039

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FW: New Name for MICC
by Stephen M Pickles 05 Jan '07

05 Jan '07

The name of the venue for OGF20 is in the process of changing. See below. Stephen -----Original Message----- From: W T Hewitt [mailto:w.t.hewitt@manchester.ac.uk] Sent: 03 January 2007 15:41 To: og20fpc(a)ogf.org Subject: New Name for MICC Some of you may be aware that MICC and the adjacent complex G-MEX, both exhibition facilities were merging, to become "Manchester Central" I had this this morning from our contact at MICC: "The name Manchester Central is officially in use now and the website will be www.manchestercentral.co.uk but is not fully functioning yet." Best wishes Terry W T Hewitt Director of Research Computing Manchester Computing University of Manchester Manchester M13 9PL United Kingdom t: +44 161 275 6095 e: w.t.hewitt(a)manchester.ac.uk w: http://www.manchester.ac.uk/mc

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OGF20 PC meetings in the new year
by Dave Berry 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

Dear PC members, I propose the following schedule of telephone meetings for the first months of the new year. This includes the run up to the deadline for proposal submissions and the judging period. I have rather arbitrarily chosen Tuesdays as the day for these. As we have members all round the world, I have used two different time slots to give everyone a chance to join some meetings. I hope that those of us attending OGF19 can get together there. 9 Jan: 8am PST / 10am CST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET / 2am JST / 3am Sydney - Review of programme plan, speaker suggestions 16 Jan: 8am PST / 10am CST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET / 2am JST / 3am Sydney - Review of programme plan, speaker suggestions 23 Jan: 2pm PST / 4pm PST / 5pm EST / 10pm GMT / 11pm CET / 7am JST / 8am Sydney - Review of programme plan, speaker suggestions 30 Jan: F2F at OGF19? Proposal Submission Deadline - February 9 13 Feb: 8am PST / 10am CST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET / 2am JST / 3am Sydney - First review of workshop proposals 20 Feb: 2pm PST / 4pm PST / 5pm EST / 10pm GMT / 11pm CET / 7am JST / 8am Sydney - Second review of workshop proposals Acceptance Notification - February 23 6 Mar: 8am PST / 10am CST / 11am EST / 4pm GMT / 5pm CET / 2am JST / 3am Sydney - Review of programme I will send out details of the teleconference arrangements in the new year. Best wishes, Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039

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OGF20 CFP
by Dave Berry 15 Dec '06

15 Dec '06

Dear PC, The Call for Proposals for OGF20 is now live! I attach a PDF version. It is also on the OGF web site - see http://www.ogf.org/OGF20/events_ogf20.php. Please distribute this CFP and encourage your colleagues to submit proposals for presentations, panels and workshops. The CFP includes the URL for submissions. Please also keep the PC informed of people you know who are interested in submitting something. For the industry sub-group, I also attach the outline programme that we developed for the "Grids mean Business" track. I will send out a schedule of PC meetings soon. Best wishes, Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039

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FW: [wg-all] Suggestions for OGF19 and OGF20 Software ProvidersPresentations
by Dave Berry 13 Dec '06

13 Dec '06

Dear OGF20 PC, Please see this message from Geoffrey Fox. Please send replies to him. My view is that commercial vendors should definitely be invited to participate in such sessions. Best wishes, Dave. -----Original Message----- From: wg-all-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:wg-all-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Joel Replogle Sent: 13 December 2006 14:15 To: wg-all(a)ggf.org Subject: [wg-all] Suggestions for OGF19 and OGF20 Software ProvidersPresentations All - The following is a call for a new Software Provider initiative from Geoffrey Fox, VP of eScience: A highlight of OGF19 and OGF20 will be an eScience Software Providers track whose rationale is eloquently described by Charlie Catlett -- who originally suggested it - below. We expect about 3 days at OGF19 and 2 days at the rather busier OGF20 for this track. The track will feature the developers of core software that has broad use or interest among Grid systems. The audience will typically be those that are building Grids e.g. Charlie can send his staff to capture in one place a set of user forums on the software used to build TeraGrid. We expect the track to be interesting to both Enterprise and Standards as well; the software in this track should be major consumers of OGF standards. We have invited so far 11 such Grid software developers to OGF19 as listed below and we ask for your suggestions on the omissions we have surely made; what core software is broadly used and should be invited? In particular should we have commercial vendors as well? Please send any suggestions to Geoffrey Fox <gcf(a)indiana.edu> Thank you Condor Scheduling system Genesis II OGSA Grid Infrastructure (Grimshaw) Globus core Grid Infrastructure Grid-Shib Grid security GridSphere portlet container for portals Ninf-G core Grid RPC Infrastructure NWS and BQP Network/Queuing Tools (Rich Wolski) OGCE Open Grid Computing Environments collection of portlets (for Science Gateways) OMII core Grid infrastructure (includes OGSA-DAI and Taverna) SRB data Grid infrastructure Unicore core Grid infrastructure Each software system will be allocated one or occasionally two 90 minute sessions. Excerpts from Charlie Catlett's description of the new Software Providers Track ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Friends- I am sure I've left someone out (sorry), but wanted to send a note to those of us who are trying to build grids out of our own and other peoples' tools, which often means we are selecting and integrating software, supporting it, in some cases packaging it in things like VDT, gLite, OMII products or CTSS. As we have worked together on the GIN project this year I think one lesson is that having software providers work with us as a collective group of consumers would be useful to us as well as to them. A number of us in OGF (formerly GGF) have grown concerned about the fact that there is not a convenient way for our software providers and ourselves (their customers) to interact regularly and substantively. As importantly, OGF meetings do not seem to inspire the kind of Grid-to-Grid collaborations (solving common problems, as we are all doing) that we originally envisioned 8 years ago (yes, 8!) when we first proposed such a forum to the community. Yes, the Globus folks have their Globus World and the Condor folks have their Condor Week, but there are many other packages we use that have no such events, and if they did would we send people to a dozen of them a year? (I think not) I wanted to give you a heads up that Geoffrey Fox and several others of us from the OGF steering group are going to try to experiment with a "software provider forum" at OGF-19 in North Carolina at the end of January. This is meant for groups like us who use perhaps a dozen packages from as many providers - we want to bring them together for mini "customer groups" (I say customer, meaning us, rather than user, which we generally think of as the end-user who is our customer). What does "provider of software" mean? I'm glad you asked. The sessions are meant for people who already have software packages used by projects like ours. Having a session does not in any way imply an endorsement by OGF (or anyone else). Some providers may choose to ask for sessions to try to sell wares, but that is a risky move on their part, as people not in a shopping mood may walk out, but then again maybe people want to hear what XYZ's software might do for them. The sessions are *not* meant for us, even though some of us are in a sense "suppliers" of things I listed in the opening paragraph. If we want to have that kind of session with our users we should think about how to do that, but if we try to do it at the same time as our providers then we'll miss out on interacting with them (and with our fellow consumers of their software). Feel free to pass this note on as a heads up to anyone who is in our shoes - trying to build grids out of collections of software packages. Also, I plan to encourage TeraGrid sites system administrators and software leaders to participate in these sessions at OGF-19 and I hope you will do the same. Not because I care how many people show up in North Carolina for a head count (I don't care about that, actually), but because I want my software people to interact with their counterparts in your projects. If this is successful at OGF-19 we will encourage OGF to keep doing it. But for now call it an experiment. Best Regards- CeC --: : Geoffrey Fox gcf(a)indiana.edu FAX 8128567972 http://www.infomall.org : Phones Cell 812-219-4643 Home 8123239196 Lab 8128567977 : SkypeIn 812-669-0772 with voicemail, International cell 8123910207 -- wg-all mailing list wg-all(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/wg-all

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OGF20 PC update
by Dave Berry 17 Nov '06

17 Nov '06

Dear PC, We've had some useful meetings at SC06, which have confirmed the overall structure of the joint event, including timing of plenaries, receptions, etc., and also a draft outline of the e-Science tracks. I will now take this a stage further and produce a straw man programme which will suggest which rooms will be assigned to each track as each time. Once I've completed this I will ask the list for comments. There will be calls for participation in the E-Science and Industry programmes. I was asked to produce a list of PC members grouped by function - which makes sense, given that there are a large number of us. I've grouped you into Standards, E-Science, Industry/Enterprise, Geographical and Operational. This is not an exact science as some members will have overlapping concerns. Please let me know if you think you should be listed in a different group. Subgroups may meet to discuss particular aspects of the programme - as we've already done for the industry track - but the whole committee will see the developing programme. In particular, the geographical members are welcome to comment on any aspect of the programme that affects them, as well as encouraging people from their areas to contribute to the success of the event. I would like to welcome Satoshi Sekiguchi (Japan) and Max Lemke (European Commision) to the committee. Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039 List of Members ----------------------- e-Science Geoffrey Fox (Indiana) David Wallom (Oxford) David Fergusson (Edinburgh) Malcolm Atkinson (Edinburgh) David de Roure (Southampton) Stephen McGough (London) Standards Steven Newhouse (OMII) Chris Higgins (Edinburgh: OGC) Neil Chue Hong (Edinburgh) Geographical Fotis Karayannis (Greece) John O'Callaghan (Australia) Jysoo Lee (Korea) Peter Kacsuk (Hungary) Kimmo Koski (Finland) Rosa Badia (Spain) Victor Alessandrini (France) Vincent Breton (France) Satoshi Sekiguchi (Japan) Max Lemke (European Commision) Industry/Enterprise Jim Austin (York) Bob Cohen (ESI) Brooklin Gore (Micron) Craig Lee (Aerospace) Douglas Mckinley (Metaware) Gary Tyreman (Platform) Ian Osborne (Grid Computing Now!) John Brooke (Manchester) Jamil Appa (BAE systems) John Easton (IBM) John Barr (Intel) Guy Lonsdale (NEC) Mark Parsons (EPCC) Martin Walker (HP) Paul Watson (Newcastle) Paul Strong (Ebay) Ron Perrott (Belfast) Robert Fogel (Intel) Steve Caughey (Arjuna) William Fellows (The 451 Group) Operations (Local, OGF staff, EGEE, etc.) Dave Berry (PC Chair) Wolfgang Gentzsch (General Chair) Ann Collins (OGF Office) Steve Crumb (OGF Office) Joel Replogle (OGF Office) Gwen Nichols-White (OGF Office) Erwin Laure (EGEE) Hannelore Hammerle (EGEE) Massimo Lamanna (EGEE) Robin Middleton (EGEE) Terry Hewitt (Local Organising Committee) Rizos Sakellariou (Local Organising Committee) Rob Procter (Local Organising Committee) Roger Barlow (Local Organising Committee) Stephen Pickles (Local Organising Committee)

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Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track
by Ian Osborne 15 Nov '06

15 Nov '06

Dave, I've been speaking to William Fellows and exchanged emails with Dave Wallom and I would like to target a session on Software Licensing for the industry track at OGF 20. It's a topic which is gaining momentum in the marketplace as end users begin to adopt virtualisation more aggressively, and with the emergence of multi-core and server (Hardware) virtualisation capabilities, the problems that grid has always had look to be multiplying along several dimensions. The basic plan would be to offer a view of user requirements for licensing models and encourage an industry response. Its early days, but I have started a work stream aimed at this, targeting OGF20 for a roundtable, possibly covered by a media partner. Be interested to get feedback from the program committee on this idea too! Ian Ian Osborne Project Director, Intellect Grid Computing Now! Knowledge Transfer Network www.gridcomputingnow.org <http://www.gridcomputingnow.org/> M: +44 (0) 7793 258219 T: +44 (0) 20 7331 2054 ian.osborne(a)intellectuk.org <mailto:ian.osborne@intellectuk.org> www.intellectuk.org <http://www.intellectuk.org/> ________________________________ From: ogf20pc-bounces(a)ogf.org [mailto:ogf20pc-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Dave Berry Sent: 14 November 2006 18:20 To: Brooklin Gore; bcohen(a)bway.net Cc: ogf20pc(a)ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track I agree with Bob's explanation here. I see these as two related tracks. The program I mailed out is aimed at new users and would be one track. Bob's requirements workshop would run alongside and be aimed at established users. We have just moved the industry track to Tuesday & Wednesday (because Monday will be a public holiday in the UK). We could probably schedule the requirements workshops on either day - I'll talk offline with Bob about this. Are there other industry & enterprise sessions that we want to schedule (or indeed issue a call for)? Best wishes, Dave. ________________________________ From: Brooklin Gore [mailto:bgore@micron.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 17:48 To: bcohen(a)bway.net Cc: Dave Berry; ogf20pc(a)ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track Ok, that is helpful. Also helpful to hear from John Brooke that there is a good concentration of pharma startups in the Manchester area that should be easy to attract to the show. Thanks all, ~Brooklin ________________________________ From: Robert Cohen <bcohen(a)bway.net> Reply-To: <bcohen(a)bway.net> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:33:47 -0500 To: Brooklin Gore <bgore(a)micron.com> Cc: Dave Berry <daveb(a)nesc.ac.uk>, <ogf20pc(a)ogf.org> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track Hi Brooklin, I am not sure that you are aware of what the Industry Group was trying to do in Washington at GGF18, but we had two sessions with industry people with extensive experience using Grids. The idea is to get industry oriented users to pinpoint issues they face in using Grids (issues that will probably prove to be similar to what other firms in that industry will face). These issues are to feed into an exercise that is part of promoting greater collaboration between the standards side of OGF and the Enterprise/Science side. Issues from the user side can identify areas where advances in standards would be most helpful to users in industry and science. In the Washington sessions, there was certainly evidence from users that Grids were adding value and could be used at a wide range of firms in the sectors that were part of the discussion. There were also a number of attendees that were relatively new users of Grids. In previous discussions of the OGF20PC, there was no attempt to have the industry sessions be the only sessions available for users to attend. But the idea was to continue the process that was begun in Washington. If many people feel that is not a productive way to move ahead, the entire process should be canned. Bob Cohen Brooklin Gore wrote: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track I'm still a little confused with the concept on industry tracks like auto and pharma, etc. I wonder how many businesses 'new' to the grid would be attracted by these sessions. Certainly one or two companies from this segment doing a case study on why the grid is good for their business (with elements that could be applied to other companies not yet doing grid) would be great, I just don't understand the value of branding along an industry segment. I think every presentation should make attendees not using grid yet 1) want to come and 2) walk away beleiving 1) this stuff is really adding business value 2) we can use this stuff. ~Brooklin ________________________________ From: Robert Cohen <bcohen(a)bway.net> <mailto:bcohen@bway.net> <mailto:bcohen@bway.net> Reply-To: <bcohen(a)bway.net> <mailto:bcohen@bway.net> <mailto:bcohen@bway.net> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:08:00 -0500 To: Dave Berry <daveb(a)nesc.ac.uk> <mailto:daveb@nesc.ac.uk> <mailto:daveb@nesc.ac.uk> , <ogf20pc(a)ogf.org> <mailto:ogf20pc@ogf.org> <mailto:ogf20pc@ogf.org> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track Dave, This looks ok, but it does leave out the main sessions for the industry track that we had discussed that would be parallel sessions on Tuesday. These would include the sessions from the draft "Straw man OGF20 industry": Also on Tuesday: Enterprise Requirements workshops These are scheduled to run at the same time as the "Issues in Grids" sessions. We can take advantage of the people attending these workshops to give presentations in other sessions, e.g. in the Collaborative Grids session. 11:00-12:30: Auto & Aerospace industry requirements 16:00-17:30: Pharma industry requirements 18:00-19:30 Requirements roll-up meeting It would be useful to have the Collaboration Grids session after the Auto and Aerospace industry requirements meeting so that people from the requirements session could present there. Bob Cohen Dave Berry wrote: Dear PC, At the last meeting of industry sub-committee I took a task to prepare an outline of the industry track, as we understand it so far, that people could give to potential participants. I have now done this and attach the result. 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Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track
by Dave Berry 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

I agree with Bob's explanation here. I see these as two related tracks. The program I mailed out is aimed at new users and would be one track. Bob's requirements workshop would run alongside and be aimed at established users. We have just moved the industry track to Tuesday & Wednesday (because Monday will be a public holiday in the UK). We could probably schedule the requirements workshops on either day - I'll talk offline with Bob about this. Are there other industry & enterprise sessions that we want to schedule (or indeed issue a call for)? Best wishes, Dave. _____ From: Brooklin Gore [mailto:bgore@micron.com] Sent: 14 November 2006 17:48 To: bcohen(a)bway.net Cc: Dave Berry; ogf20pc(a)ogf.org Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track Ok, that is helpful. Also helpful to hear from John Brooke that there is a good concentration of pharma startups in the Manchester area that should be easy to attract to the show. Thanks all, ~Brooklin _____ From: Robert Cohen <bcohen(a)bway.net> Reply-To: <bcohen(a)bway.net> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 12:33:47 -0500 To: Brooklin Gore <bgore(a)micron.com> Cc: Dave Berry <daveb(a)nesc.ac.uk>, <ogf20pc(a)ogf.org> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track Hi Brooklin, I am not sure that you are aware of what the Industry Group was trying to do in Washington at GGF18, but we had two sessions with industry people with extensive experience using Grids. The idea is to get industry oriented users to pinpoint issues they face in using Grids (issues that will probably prove to be similar to what other firms in that industry will face). These issues are to feed into an exercise that is part of promoting greater collaboration between the standards side of OGF and the Enterprise/Science side. Issues from the user side can identify areas where advances in standards would be most helpful to users in industry and science. In the Washington sessions, there was certainly evidence from users that Grids were adding value and could be used at a wide range of firms in the sectors that were part of the discussion. There were also a number of attendees that were relatively new users of Grids. In previous discussions of the OGF20PC, there was no attempt to have the industry sessions be the only sessions available for users to attend. But the idea was to continue the process that was begun in Washington. If many people feel that is not a productive way to move ahead, the entire process should be canned. Bob Cohen Brooklin Gore wrote: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track I'm still a little confused with the concept on industry tracks like auto and pharma, etc. I wonder how many businesses 'new' to the grid would be attracted by these sessions. Certainly one or two companies from this segment doing a case study on why the grid is good for their business (with elements that could be applied to other companies not yet doing grid) would be great, I just don't understand the value of branding along an industry segment. I think every presentation should make attendees not using grid yet 1) want to come and 2) walk away beleiving 1) this stuff is really adding business value 2) we can use this stuff. ~Brooklin _____ From: Robert Cohen <bcohen(a)bway.net> <mailto:bcohen@bway.net> <mailto:bcohen@bway.net> Reply-To: <bcohen(a)bway.net> <mailto:bcohen@bway.net> <mailto:bcohen@bway.net> Date: Tue, 14 Nov 2006 10:08:00 -0500 To: Dave Berry <daveb(a)nesc.ac.uk> <mailto:daveb@nesc.ac.uk> <mailto:daveb@nesc.ac.uk> , <ogf20pc(a)ogf.org> <mailto:ogf20pc@ogf.org> <mailto:ogf20pc@ogf.org> Subject: Re: [ogf20pc] Draft outline for industry track Dave, This looks ok, but it does leave out the main sessions for the industry track that we had discussed that would be parallel sessions on Tuesday. These would include the sessions from the draft "Straw man OGF20 industry": Also on Tuesday: Enterprise Requirements workshops These are scheduled to run at the same time as the "Issues in Grids" sessions. We can take advantage of the people attending these workshops to give presentations in other sessions, e.g. in the Collaborative Grids session. 11:00-12:30: Auto & Aerospace industry requirements 16:00-17:30: Pharma industry requirements 18:00-19:30 Requirements roll-up meeting It would be useful to have the Collaboration Grids session after the Auto and Aerospace industry requirements meeting so that people from the requirements session could present there. Bob Cohen Dave Berry wrote: Dear PC, At the last meeting of industry sub-committee I took a task to prepare an outline of the industry track, as we understand it so far, that people could give to potential participants. I have now done this and attach the result. Best wishes, Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039 _____ _______________________________________________ ogf20pc mailing list ogf20pc(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf20pc _____ _______________________________________________ ogf20pc mailing list ogf20pc(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ogf20pc

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Slides for today's discussion
by Steve Crumb 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

Attached are a set of slides that we will use to guide our discussion today. We will be in the Ybor Room on the second floor of the Hyatt Regency. For those of you who cannot attend this meeting in person, you may use the following dial-in information: Toll Free Dial-In Number (US & Canada): 1-866-875-2241 International Dial-In Number: +1-832 445-1174 Conference Code- 8755618 Thanks, Steve Crumb Executive Director, OGF scrumb(a)ogf.org +1 312-895-5931 (new)

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Draft outline for industry track
by Dave Berry 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

Dear PC, At the last meeting of industry sub-committee I took a task to prepare an outline of the industry track, as we understand it so far, that people could give to potential participants. I have now done this and attach the result. Best wishes, Dave Berry Deputy Director, Research & E-infrastructure Development National e-Science Centre, 15 South College Street Edinburgh, EH8 9AA +44 131 651 4039

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