All; We will have an NMC call this thurs at 15:00 UTC. Agenda is TBD, but will appear here: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.nmc-wg/wiki/2010052... Thanks; -jason
Sadly I'm unable to participate, I see the agenda is still 'TBD' for next conference I would like to discus altering the protocol to allow Streaming (the response in particular). There are a couple of not so obvious things that are required to allow for streaming, particular in the case of error handling. I'll try to get some reading out - should I put that on a wiki page? I was going to write a full blown proposal on this but I can't seem to reserve enough time to get it finished within a reasonable time frame. Allowing for streaming might well increase adoption rate of nmc as it's currently lacking in perfsonar and could seriously benefit current perfsonar services.(I'd even go so far as to state that it solves(together with compression) all performance problems that I know off.) Kind regards, Michael On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Jason Zurawski <zurawski@internet2.edu>wrote:
All;
We will have an NMC call this thurs at 15:00 UTC. Agenda is TBD, but will appear here:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.nmc-wg/wiki/2010052...
Thanks;
-jason _______________________________________________ Nmc-wg mailing list Nmc-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmc-wg
Hi All, Sorry, I have another call at 15:00 CET , which will hardly be completed in one hour. Would be good indeed to have streaming in the protocol. Best regards, Nina Michael Bischoff wrote:
Sadly I'm unable to participate,
I see the agenda is still 'TBD' for next conference I would like to discus altering the protocol to allow Streaming (the response in particular). There are a couple of not so obvious things that are required to allow for streaming, particular in the case of error handling. I'll try to get some reading out - should I put that on a wiki page? I was going to write a full blown proposal on this but I can't seem to reserve enough time to get it finished within a reasonable time frame.
Allowing for streaming might well increase adoption rate of nmc as it's currently lacking in perfsonar and could seriously benefit current perfsonar services.(I'd even go so far as to state that it solves(together with compression) all performance problems that I know off.)
Kind regards,
Michael
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Jason Zurawski <zurawski@internet2.edu <mailto:zurawski@internet2.edu>> wrote:
All;
We will have an NMC call this thurs at 15:00 UTC. Agenda is TBD, but will appear here:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.nmc-wg/wiki/2010052...
Thanks;
-jason _______________________________________________ Nmc-wg mailing list Nmc-wg@ogf.org <mailto:Nmc-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmc-wg
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Michael/All; Given that we have yet to make any significant progress on our core objectives I do not think introducing new concepts is the best use of our time. If this is something that you (and others) feel strongly enough about, you are more than welcome to organize a conference call to discuss ways forward. I am not going to be available on June 10th for the next conference call. I was going to cancel, but you may have the slot to talk about this topic if you would like it. Thanks; -jason On 5/26/10 8:01 PM, Michael Bischoff wrote:
Sadly I'm unable to participate,
I see the agenda is still 'TBD' for next conference I would like to discus altering the protocol to allow Streaming (the response in particular). There are a couple of not so obvious things that are required to allow for streaming, particular in the case of error handling. I'll try to get some reading out - should I put that on a wiki page? I was going to write a full blown proposal on this but I can't seem to reserve enough time to get it finished within a reasonable time frame.
Allowing for streaming might well increase adoption rate of nmc as it's currently lacking in perfsonar and could seriously benefit current perfsonar services.(I'd even go so far as to state that it solves(together with compression) all performance problems that I know off.)
Kind regards,
Michael
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Jason Zurawski <zurawski@internet2.edu <mailto:zurawski@internet2.edu>> wrote:
All;
We will have an NMC call this thurs at 15:00 UTC. Agenda is TBD, but will appear here:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.nmc-wg/wiki/2010052...
Thanks;
-jason _______________________________________________ Nmc-wg mailing list Nmc-wg@ogf.org <mailto:Nmc-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmc-wg
Hi, On Thu, 27 May 2010, Jason Zurawski wrote:
Michael/All;
Given that we have yet to make any significant progress on our core objectives I do not think introducing new concepts is the best use of our time.
If this is something that you (and others) feel strongly enough about, you are more than welcome to organize a conference call to discuss ways forward. I am not going to be available on June 10th for the next conference call. I was going to cancel, but you may have the slot to talk about this topic if you would like it.
From GN3 project point of view it would be good to start the discussion on streaming in the protocol. It is planned to have a proposal of it in this year in the project.
Michael, you already have the experience in this topic (the work in GN2). I remember that DFN guys also did some solution for their tools. Would you be interested to lead the discussion and work on it? regards, Roman
Thanks;
-jason
On 5/26/10 8:01 PM, Michael Bischoff wrote:
Sadly I'm unable to participate,
I see the agenda is still 'TBD' for next conference I would like to discus altering the protocol to allow Streaming (the response in particular). There are a couple of not so obvious things that are required to allow for streaming, particular in the case of error handling. I'll try to get some reading out - should I put that on a wiki page? I was going to write a full blown proposal on this but I can't seem to reserve enough time to get it finished within a reasonable time frame.
Allowing for streaming might well increase adoption rate of nmc as it's currently lacking in perfsonar and could seriously benefit current perfsonar services.(I'd even go so far as to state that it solves(together with compression) all performance problems that I know off.)
Kind regards,
Michael
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Jason Zurawski <zurawski@internet2.edu <mailto:zurawski@internet2.edu>> wrote:
All;
We will have an NMC call this thurs at 15:00 UTC. Agenda is TBD, but will appear here:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.nmc-wg/wiki/2010052...
Thanks;
-jason _______________________________________________ Nmc-wg mailing list Nmc-wg@ogf.org <mailto:Nmc-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmc-wg
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Michael; I have started you a wiki page for this meeting: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.nmc-wg/wiki/2010061... Please try to take good notes or nominate someone else to do so. Thanks; -jason On 5/27/10 9:21 AM, romradz@man.poznan.pl wrote:
Hi,
On Thu, 27 May 2010, Jason Zurawski wrote:
Michael/All;
Given that we have yet to make any significant progress on our core objectives I do not think introducing new concepts is the best use of our time.
If this is something that you (and others) feel strongly enough about, you are more than welcome to organize a conference call to discuss ways forward. I am not going to be available on June 10th for the next conference call. I was going to cancel, but you may have the slot to talk about this topic if you would like it.
From GN3 project point of view it would be good to start the discussion on streaming in the protocol. It is planned to have a proposal of it in this year in the project.
Michael, you already have the experience in this topic (the work in GN2). I remember that DFN guys also did some solution for their tools. Would you be interested to lead the discussion and work on it?
regards, Roman
Thanks;
-jason
On 5/26/10 8:01 PM, Michael Bischoff wrote:
Sadly I'm unable to participate,
I see the agenda is still 'TBD' for next conference I would like to discus altering the protocol to allow Streaming (the response in particular). There are a couple of not so obvious things that are required to allow for streaming, particular in the case of error handling. I'll try to get some reading out - should I put that on a wiki page? I was going to write a full blown proposal on this but I can't seem to reserve enough time to get it finished within a reasonable time frame.
Allowing for streaming might well increase adoption rate of nmc as it's currently lacking in perfsonar and could seriously benefit current perfsonar services.(I'd even go so far as to state that it solves(together with compression) all performance problems that I know off.)
Kind regards,
Michael
On Mon, May 24, 2010 at 2:12 PM, Jason Zurawski <zurawski@internet2.edu <mailto:zurawski@internet2.edu>> wrote:
All;
We will have an NMC call this thurs at 15:00 UTC. Agenda is TBD, but will appear here:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.nmc-wg/wiki/2010052...
Thanks;
-jason _______________________________________________ Nmc-wg mailing list Nmc-wg@ogf.org <mailto:Nmc-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmc-wg
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Hi, Unfortunately and unexpectedly I will have to leave the call after 15 minutes. Apologize :( Roman On Mon, 24 May 2010, Jason Zurawski wrote:
All;
We will have an NMC call this thurs at 15:00 UTC. Agenda is TBD, but will appear here:
https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.nmc-wg/wiki/2010052...
Thanks;
-jason _______________________________________________ Nmc-wg mailing list Nmc-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/nmc-wg
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Jason Zurawski -
Michael Bischoff -
Nina Jeliazkova -
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