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HPC Profile Call Minutes - 11/29
by Richard Ciapala 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Attendees * Luigi * Andrew * Mark * Duane * Marty * Glenn * Chris * Joel * Vivian * Stephen * Peter * Rich Notes * We decided to work through the BES issues in Marty's email over the next couple of weeks with the goal of submitting BES to public comment before Christmas * Andrew will send Chris v27 of the BES specification which will include the changes from the last face-to-face. This is the version we will work from. * We will work from the Axis 1.4 BES WSDL from wiki * We discussed having FactoryResourceAttributesDocumentType encapsulate BasicFactoryResourceAttributesDocumentType instead of derive from it. No one had any issues with this. * We discussed having GetFactoryAttributesDocument take any type of filter to limit the amount of data returned. Rich will write up more detail on this and send it out to mailing list. If we go down this route, there should also be a way for the service to publish the filters it supports. * Chris start writing up solutions to the other BES issues mentioned and send them out to the mailing list * Discussed use of WS-BaseFaults. Need to research what the previous issues were. Thanks

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29 Nov call minutes
by Michel Drescher 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, the minutes of today's call are on Gridforge: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14040?nav=1 Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbabCk0lMZTNKw4QRArkZAJ42KEm++e092U//y2pZJUn59p7U6QCdFvYc LmnHYT6493NpRIC2XMolk9A= =TvKM -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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JSDL Teleconference - 29 November 2006 (2pm UTC)
by Andreas Savva 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

As promised our next call is Wednesday, Nov. 29, at *2:00pm UTC*. Call-in details are at the bottom. As a proposed agenda: 1. Agenda bashing 2. Update on JSDL-related discussions from Nov. OGSA F2F / SC06 3. JSDL 1.1 - Review new issues and kick off work - Any volunteers to review email archive for issues from summer JSDL/HPCP discussions [Recall the plan is to have a completed draft by OGF19.] 4. New extension drafts - A new draft for Parallel Application (SPMDApplication) should be ready. 5. AOB - Initial OGF19 planning/discussion(?) Date: ** 29 November 2006 ** Time: 14:00 UTC / 9:00 EST / 6:00 PST / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net [Glance code: 1129] -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Reminder: HPC Profile conf call Wed Nov 29 8am Pacific time: post-SC2006 discussion
by Marty Humphrey 29 Nov '06

29 Nov '06

Folks, A reminder: we'll have a call tomorrow at 8am Pacific to discuss what we learned from the implementations of the HPC Profile for SC2006. We'll shortly send out telephone call info... -- Marty Quoting Marty Humphrey <humphrey(a)cs.virginia.edu>: > Folks, > > First, I want to THANK EVERYBODY for their hard work leading up to and > including the SC2006 interop demofest! I think we made tremendous progress > and I want to continue the momentum inside the BES, JSDL, and HPC Profile > working groups!!!! > > I propose that we have a conference call on Wed Nov 29 at 8am US Pacific > time to discuss what we each learned while we implemented the HPC Profile, > and where we as a group go from here. Please let me know if you can make > this call (a few people said that Fridays were not good, so we're trying a > different day -- but note: this is not necessarily proposed as a weekly > call, this is just a "special" call to discuss things while SC is still in > our minds). > > Rich Ciapala, Chris Smith and I tried to identify the unresolved issues that > we either directly encountered or someone raised on the mailing list. We > have certainly tried to capture everything but we probably missed a few > things. > > > Audience > > Topic > > > HPCP WG > > Finalize security additions to profile > > > BES WG > > Finalize faults for all operations > > > BES WG > > Limit amount of data that can be returned from GetAttributesDocument > > > HPCP WG > > Tools for which the schemas should work cleanly with > > > JSDL WG > > RangeValue_Type element clarifications > > * If a single min value and a single max value are to be specified, > should it be done with Boundary_Type's or a single Range_Type? > > * I assume Exact takes precedence over any specified Boundary_Type > or Range_Type's since Exact is a MUST and the others are optional. > > > BES WG > > Finalize Fault element's type for multiple response operations. We changed > this from soap:Fault to xsd:anyType for the demo. > > > HPCP WG > > Finalize list of dependent WS-I specs > > > BES WG > > Use of QNAMEs in GetAttributesDocument response > > > HPCP WG > > Data staging support > > > BES WG > > Clarify operations semantics (i.e. TerminateActivity) > > So, please let me know if you can make this call on Wed Nov 29. Also, let's > start email discussions on the appropriate mailing lists to attempt to > resolve some of these (or at least prioritize these and identify new ones) > before the call next Wednesday. > > Thanks again -- I think everything's coming together really well!!! > > -- Marty > > > > > > > > > > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------- This message was sent using IMP, the Internet Messaging Program.

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Re: [jsdl-wg] [ogsa-wg] BES Comments
by Donal K. Fellows 24 Nov '06

24 Nov '06

Strong, Paul wrote: > vii) Do you expect to extend the BES model to activities > that are not binaries running on operating systems? Such activity extensions do fit some of the ideas that have been floating around in the JSDL group for a few years now. In particular, activities might include things like database queries, webservice invokations, and data transfers. None of those three have had any serious effort into design of a real JSDL extension though, and there are some complexities in the understanding of the meaning of the concept of a resource in some of the cases. Given that, and the fact that BES is a JSDL enactment engine spec, I'd say that extending in the way you suggest is distinctly possible. The priority of what gets done when depends on who turns up to do the work, as always... :-) Donal.

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HPC Profile conf call Wed Nov 29 8am Pacific time: post-SC2006 discussion
by Marty Humphrey 22 Nov '06

22 Nov '06

Folks, First, I want to THANK EVERYBODY for their hard work leading up to and including the SC2006 interop demofest! I think we made tremendous progress and I want to continue the momentum inside the BES, JSDL, and HPC Profile working groups!!!! I propose that we have a conference call on Wed Nov 29 at 8am US Pacific time to discuss what we each learned while we implemented the HPC Profile, and where we as a group go from here. Please let me know if you can make this call (a few people said that Fridays were not good, so we're trying a different day -- but note: this is not necessarily proposed as a weekly call, this is just a "special" call to discuss things while SC is still in our minds). Rich Ciapala, Chris Smith and I tried to identify the unresolved issues that we either directly encountered or someone raised on the mailing list. We have certainly tried to capture everything but we probably missed a few things. Audience Topic HPCP WG Finalize security additions to profile BES WG Finalize faults for all operations BES WG Limit amount of data that can be returned from GetAttributesDocument HPCP WG Tools for which the schemas should work cleanly with JSDL WG RangeValue_Type element clarifications . If a single min value and a single max value are to be specified, should it be done with Boundary_Type's or a single Range_Type? . I assume Exact takes precedence over any specified Boundary_Type or Range_Type's since Exact is a MUST and the others are optional. BES WG Finalize Fault element's type for multiple response operations. We changed this from soap:Fault to xsd:anyType for the demo. HPCP WG Finalize list of dependent WS-I specs BES WG Use of QNAMEs in GetAttributesDocument response HPCP WG Data staging support BES WG Clarify operations semantics (i.e. TerminateActivity) So, please let me know if you can make this call on Wed Nov 29. Also, let's start email discussions on the appropriate mailing lists to attempt to resolve some of these (or at least prioritize these and identify new ones) before the call next Wednesday. Thanks again -- I think everything's coming together really well!!! -- Marty

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Next call will be Nov.29
by Andreas Savva 21 Nov '06

21 Nov '06

Our next call will be next Wednesday (Nov.29) at the usual UTC time. An agenda will be sent out early next week. We've started work on 1.1 so if you have any issues with 1.0 please put them in one of the trackers. The plan is to have a finished 1.1 draft by OGF19. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/tracker/do/listArtifacts/projects.jsdl-wg/tr… https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/tracker/do/listArtifacts/projects.jsdl-wg/tr… -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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OGF19 sessions deadline
by Andreas Savva 14 Nov '06

14 Nov '06

Hi, The deadline for session requests for OGF19 is this Friday, 17 Nov. I talked with Steve and we think to register for two sessions, 90 minutes each, both (mostly) working sessions. One to finish off current work, incl extensions. The second to start working on next topics. The second session may allow for some short presentations. In any case the detailed agenda will be worked out later. If you have any comments or suggestions please let me know within the next 1-2 days. (Sorry for leaving this almost to the last moment.) Andreas

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Minutes (25 October 2006) and next call
by Andreas Savva 26 Oct '06

26 Oct '06

I've uploaded the minutes of the call to gridforge: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc13974?nav=1 We may have a call next week if there is sufficient progress, or if there are things people want to discuss. Send me an email if there is anything you want on the agenda. Note that the week after next people will be traveling for the OGSA F2F and SC06 is the week after that. So, unless something urgent comes up, the next call is likely to be after SC06---probably on Nov 22. A separate call announcement email will be sent to the list. -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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JSDL Teleconference - (25 October 2006 - 2:00pm UTC)
by Andreas Savva 25 Oct '06

25 Oct '06

Our next call is on Wednesday, Oct. 25, at the usual time, 2:00pm UTC. Call-in details below. As a proposed agenda: 1. Agenda bashing 2. Logistics - Confirm UTC teleconference time slot after summer time ends; also call frequency - Confirm session at next OGSA F2F (Nov 9,10). OGSA F2F tentative agenda is on the wiki: https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.ogsa-wg/wiki/2006N… 3. Decide backwards compatibility approach (for JSDL 1.1) - Discuss draft to be sent out by Michel and Donal. 4. Review any new extension drafts - A new draft for Parallel Application (SPMDApplication) should be ready. Date: ** 25 October 2006 ** Time: 14:00 UTC / 15:00 BST / 10:00 EDT / 7:00 PDT / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net [Glance code: 1025] -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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