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JSDL Teleconference - 24 January 2007 (2pm UTC)
by Andreas Savva 22 Jan '07

22 Jan '07

Our next call is *Wednesday, Jan. 24, at 2:00pm UTC*. Full call-in details are at the bottom. As a proposed agenda: 1. Early discussion - Note OGF IPR rules - Agenda bashing 2. OGF19 session planning/preparation (if any updates) 3. JSDL 1.1 - Continue work on issues in trackers 4. Extensions: - Parallel (SPMD) Application issues Date: ** 24 January 2007 ** Time: 14:00 UTC / 9:00 EST / 6:00 PST / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net/?key=0124 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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phone conference minutes 17 January 2007
by Michel Drescher 17 Jan '07

17 Jan '07

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, the minutes are on GridForge: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc14096?nav=1 Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFrj8/k0lMZTNKw4QRApx7AKC7GHpSzQ2RAga7S1B2y4zg/BrNwgCfUsqu zUu+wfIvSdr0MsKQB9bgAcE= =jYk0 -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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JSDL Teleconference - 17 January 2007 (2pm UTC)
by Andreas Savva 16 Jan '07

16 Jan '07

Our next call (and first for the year) is Wednesday, Jan. 17, at *2:00pm UTC*. Full call-in details are at the bottom. As a proposed agenda: 1. Early discussion - Note OGF IPR rules - Agenda bashing 2. OGF19 planning/preparation 3. JSDL 1.1 - Continue reviewing issues in trackers Date: ** 17 January 2007 ** Time: 14:00 UTC / 9:00 EST / 6:00 PST / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net/?key=0117 -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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No call this week
by Andreas Savva 19 Dec '06

19 Dec '06

There is no call this week. Our next call will be in January, probably on the 10th. I'll send out an agenda a few days in advance. Happy holidays. -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Teleconference schedule till OGF19
by Andreas Savva 15 Dec '06

15 Dec '06

Just an update on what our teleconference schedule looks like going into OGF19. (I'll also put this information on the wiki as well.) - Dec.20: No call (A number of people have said they may not be available. If you are a regular participants and can make a call on this day could you send me an email? We may still have a call if we can get quorum.) - Dec.27: No call - Jan.3: No call - Jan.10: Call (Perhaps at a different timeslot because I'm traveling.) - Jan.17: Call - Jan.24: Call - OGF 19 is Jan.29-Feb.2 The schedule is still not fixed. At the moment (just checked) our two sessions are on Wednesday afternoon/evening. -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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JSDL Teleconference - 13 December 2006 (2pm UTC)
by Andreas Savva 11 Dec '06

11 Dec '06

Our next call is Wednesday, Dec. 13, at *2:00pm UTC*. Full call-in details are at the bottom. As a proposed agenda: [Note OGF IPR rules apply to the call] 1. Agenda bashing 2. JSDL 1.1 [Complete draft by OGF19.] - Review issues in trackers 3. OGF19 planning/preparation 4. AOB - When to arrange a repeat of the XQuery demo (Michel) - Any updates on other extension work Date: ** 13 December 2006 ** Time: 14:00 UTC / 9:00 EST / 6:00 PST / 23:00 JST Duration: 1 hour Dial-in numbers (toll): US: +1 718 3541071 (New York) or +1 408 9616509 (San Jose) UK: +44 207 3655269 (London) Japan: +81 3 3570 8225 (Tokyo) Other countries: http://tinyurl.com/eg48j User guide: http://tinyurl.com/qknrf Teleconference participant PIN: 4371991 Screen share: http://jsdl.glance.net [Glance code: 1213] -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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Re: [jsdl-wg] [ogsa-wg] Nov 30 call minutes
by Donal K. Fellows 30 Nov '06

30 Nov '06

Ian Foster wrote: > Like Steven Newhouse, I'd like to urge caution on the workflow issue. > There are so many research projects, standards activities, and industry > initiatives in this area, and workflow is such a broad area, that we > could easily spend a lot of time to little purpose. I think the one thing that would really make a big difference is a special version of the general workflow problem: co-scheduled activities. This is an important area because it affects how you discover and book resources for jobs, and many of the most interesting computational applications that I've seen have been coupled jobs (e.g. where you hook an oceanographic model to a climate model to make better predictions about the global climate, or a local weather model to a hydrographic model to a series of engineering models to work out which bridges over a river are likely to be washed out by a predicted flash flood). The distinguishing thing about these applications is that they are made up out of components that need to be run together (I suppose we could come up with other examples too, such as coordinating scheduling with other resources for things like computer-aided surgery) and yet this is an area which is not as widely tackled as other parts of the overall workflow space. So if we concentrate on how to do this specific part, we get a big gain without treading on too many people's toes; they'll all still be able to use their favourite orchestration and coordination services to run things. The other key thing here is that very often you want to have co-scheduling, but you (the user) don't actually want to pick a specific time; so long as the timeslices of the apps are coordinated, the times themselves are far less important. (I can remember trying to do demos of coupled applications without such a coupled reservation system; it all failed completely, which was supremely embarrassing!) I also think it also fits well with JSDL's step-by-step bottom-up mission. Donal.

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AI-11.29c: WS-Addressing "optionnal tag on extension"
by Michel Drescher 30 Nov '06

30 Nov '06

-----BEGIN PGP SIGNED MESSAGE----- Hash: SHA1 Folks, here's the relevant information how WS-Addressing solved a similar issue regarding the WS-Addressing binding: The main WS-Addressing page can be found at http://www.w3.org/2002/ws/addr/ The latest published recommendations for WS-Addressing are: - WS-Addressing 1.0 - core http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-ws-addr-core-20060509/ - WS-Addressing 1.0 - SOAP Biding http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/REC-ws-addr-soap-20060509/ The third document that completes the WS-Addressing 1.0 specification family of documents specifies the WSDL Binding. This document, however, is still a Candidate Recommendation: - WS-Addressing 1.0 - WSDL Binding http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/CR-ws-addr-wsdl-20060529/ The relevant information can be found in the WSDL Binding document, and in the accompanying XML Schema definition, which can be found at http://www.w3.org/2006/02/addressing/wsdl/ws-addr-wsdl.xsd Chapter 3.1 of the WSDL Binding document describes the indication of the use of WS-Addressing in a WSDL document. It defines an empty element "wsaw:UsingAdddressing" element that allows for composition with any attribute from other namespaces. In particular, the WS-Addressing 1.0 WSDL Bining document uses the "wsdl:required" attribute to mix-in the level of WS-Adddressing enfoorcement. The "wsaw:UsingAddressing" element SHOULD appear in the wsdl:binding section, but MAY instead appear in wsdl:port (WSDL 1.1) or wsdl20:endpoint if WS-Addressing compliance shall be indicated for a specific endpoint. Cheers, Michel - -- Michel <dot> Drescher <at> uk <dot> fujitsu <dot> com Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe +44 20 8606 4834 -----BEGIN PGP SIGNATURE----- Version: GnuPG v1.4.3 (Darwin) Comment: Using GnuPG with Mozilla - http://enigmail.mozdev.org iD8DBQFFbxEMk0lMZTNKw4QRAiIfAJ9i7mURuiYmumoHpKes8kx6hnSL5ACgwIXK JwEE8K+90nalDZyTfOunSjo= =DPUC -----END PGP SIGNATURE-----

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ws-policy specification
by Fabio Benedetti 30 Nov '06

30 Nov '06

Following up today discussion on the call about the specification of optional or mandatory extension to JSDL, following is the link to the WS-Policy specification http://www.w3.org/TR/2006/WD-ws-policy-20061117/ In section 4.3.1 is described how domain specific policy assertions can specify if they are optional or mandatory Ciao, Fabio Fabio Benedetti STSM SWG/Tivoli Job Scheduling Development Via Sciangai, 53 00144 Rome Phone: +39 06596 62433 Fax: +39 06596 62077 eMail: fabio.benedetti(a)it.ibm.com

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FYI: workflow discussion (was [Fwd: [ogsa-wg] Materials for tomorrows call])
by Andreas Savva 30 Nov '06

30 Nov '06

I think the material to the attached email should be of interest to at least a few people on this list. Note that the call referred to is today at 1pm UTC, if you would like to attend. > The following is a proposed agenda for OGSA-WG telecon on Nov. 30th. > Thursday from 7am - 9am (CST). > > ** attention: new international number ** > > Dial-in numbers for Thursday: > Free: +1-888-452-0308 > Intl/Toll: +(210) 234-7446 > PIN: 71815 > See more information: > - https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1477 > > Screen share service will be provided. > URL: http://ogsa.glance.net > Session key: 1130 > See more explanation: > https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/wiki1584 The link to the full agenda: http://www.ogf.org/pipermail/ogsa-wg/2006-November/002312.html -- Andreas Savva Fujitsu Laboratories Ltd

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