On 08/17/2017 02:47 PM, John Newman wrote:

On Aug 17, 2017, at 5:18 PM, Ryan Carboni mailto:ryacko@gmail.com> wrote:

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ah yes, you mentioned Nazis in the government?

It was a nazi that got America to the moon - good old Wernher.

My dad, a Zionist Jew, worked at Nasa Huntsville while he was there. He told me he was drawing caricatures of the Paperclip Rocket Nazi and leaving them on his own desk for people to see. Then "The guys in suits" showed up and told him: "Colonel (x). Doctor Von Braun is a guest of the US government and you (affects Capt Klink, Hogans Heroes, mock german voce) VILL DO NAHTHINK to embarrass him." Rr

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wernher_von_Braun

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Operation_Paperclip

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there is a secret society of Nazis tasked by THE Kennedy to protect American democracy. Maybe they are connected with all the Nazis the CIA rescued from WWII?

Nah they're the ones Wilson and Shea spoke of in Illuminatus! mothballed in suspended animation at the bottom of a Bavarian lake waiting for the correct frequency to wake them. And the occasional Croat or Uke camp guard discovered living innocuously into their 90s in some bumfuck place in Illinois. Someone owed them a favor and had a connection. Nationalist orgs who had organized militias for the allies could make those connects. Rr

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uh.... yeah. after the cubs won the world series, the weirdness only broke free

http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/2015/04/inside-the-special-forces-underground/ The legend of the Special Forces Underground reaches back to the same period. The story is that President Kennedy, an outspoken critic of the military-industrial complex, pulled selected Special Forces officers aside when he visited Fort Bragg in October of 1961. In a very informal conversation he asked these officers to promise that if the US military was ever used against the people of the United States the men of the Special Forces would use their very unique training to assist the people. According to the legend, this promise has been passed down through the decades to some of the soldiers wearing the Green Beret today. These men make up what the media and DOD investigations have referred to as “The Special Forces Underground.”

http://www.hoover.org/news/hoover-library-acquires-rare-periodical-army-spec...

On 08/17/2017 10:28 PM, Razer wrote:

On 08/17/2017 02:18 PM, Ryan Carboni wrote:

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ah yes, you mentioned Nazis in the government? there is a secret society of Nazis tasked by THE Kennedy to protect American democracy. Maybe they are connected with all the Nazis the CIA rescued from WWII? uh.... yeah. after the cubs won the world series, the weirdness only broke free

http://thefifthcolumnnews.com/2015/04/inside-the-special-forces-underground/ The legend of the Special Forces Underground reaches back to the same period. The story is that President Kennedy, an outspoken critic of the military-industrial complex, pulled selected Special Forces officers aside when he visited Fort Bragg in October of 1961. In a very informal conversation he asked these officers to promise that if the US military was ever used against the people of the United States the men of the Special Forces would use their very unique training to assist the people. According to the legend, this promise has been passed down through the decades to some of the soldiers wearing the Green Beret today. These men make up what the media and DOD investigations have referred to as “The Special Forces Underground.”

http://www.hoover.org/news/hoover-library-acquires-rare-periodical-army-spec...

Woah! I did not find any way to access these documents at hoover.org,, but follow the network bread crumbs to solid gold: https://archive.org/search.php?query=creator%3A%22The+Resister%22

The Special Forces collaborated with Nazis in Southeast Asia after WWII and before it became an 'inherited war' from France, and so did the French Foreign Legion which hired them directly I believe. The collaboration by the Special Forces with the Mafia to import Herowhine to US ghettos via Marseilles is much better known and there may be some connection to the earlier association but I haven't really researched it.

Rr

In the context of Col. Prouty's presentation of the history of U.S. involvement in Southeast Asia, this would be a case where Special Forces means Central Intelligence Agency. Where and as the well justified paranoia of "cooler heads" in Washington limited the CIA's access to funding, manpower and matériel for anti-Communist operations, Dulles and his guise had legal authorities and practical procedures for borrowing the resources of any branch of the U.S. military. For "borrowing" read "co-opting and infiltrating." Whole units became de facto CIA assets where and as required, along with effectively unlimited supplies of arms, vehicles, etc., all on the books as Army, Navy or etc. assets. After the operations in question were concluded, the personnel involved who had been read in regarding their temporary roles remained as de facto permanent agents in place, available on call for any favors etc. as required. CIA was supposed to reimburse the various services for the costs of their cooperation. The fact that such operations ever happened was disclosed only to properly cleared personnel on a need to know basis, so those in Pentagon accounting positions relevant to this process became de facto "double agents." They took all that information with them when transferred or promoted, so the payment obligations in question often got lost in the shuffle. How this creative accounting process evolved alongside the development of electronic bookkeeping methods since Prouty's day has not, as far as I know, been publicly disclosed. But that it did so successfully is a foregone conclusion. The Secret Team, Col. L. Fletcher Prouty, 1973 https://archive.org/details/pdfy-JnCrjsoqI22z8p9i Postscript: If you like that kind of stuff, you will probably also like the Christic Institute Newsletters: https://archive.org/details/ChristicInstituteNewsletter1988Spring :o) SK