August 2017 - cypherpunks@lists.ogf.org

Re: Is a BTC - BCC flippening in the offing?
by juan 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 14:40:20 -0500 Steven Schear <schear.steve(a)gmail.com> wrote: > Agreed. Atm its almost all gambling. I'm hoping BTC crashes because L2 > scaling is not tested and ready but L2 8MB blocks seem to be solid. well, I don't know how far development of the lightning network has gone, but there's no reason why it can't be further developed to make it "production ready" I would assume. On the other hand, it seem kinda obvious that bitcoin can't handle a lot of small transactions. And it's true that the bigger the blocks get, the more hardware you need to run a validating node and the more centralized the network becomes. Centralization is already pretty bad as far as miners and exchanges are concerned. > A currency can't just be used for gambling and have any lasting > value. Fees are so high on BTC as preclude any use BUT gambling > whereas BCCs are back where BTC was 2 years+ ago. Imagine if USD > could only be used for bank wires and SWIFT settlement. How useful > would it be to most people? Yes, limiting bitcoin to high value transactions, digital gold style, would limit its utility as 'currency'. So the second layer approach can make sense after all... Disclaimer : I don't necessarily trust blockstream either... > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 2:21 PM, juan <juan.g71(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 13:40:24 -0500 > > Steven Schear <schear.steve(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > On Fri, Aug 18, 2017 at 12:30 PM, juan <juan.g71(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > On Fri, 18 Aug 2017 09:29:54 -0500 > > > > Steven Schear <schear.steve(a)gmail.com> wrote: > > > > > > > > > [Disclosure: I am a strong supporter of L1 (Blockchain > > > > > scaling) occurring before any L2 (e.g., Segwit, Blockstream, > > > > > Lightening Network, etc.) is attempted. And even then all L2 > > > > > must be thoroughly examined not only for technical flaws but > > > > > for possible misuses > > > > > > > > > > > > misuses such as? And who is going to do the examination? > > > > > > > > > > For example, Lightning Networks, due to the methods of "channel" > > > controls, can enable fractional reserve of the blockchain assets. > > > > > > As far as I know payment channels only allow you to use the > > amount of btc you transferred to the channel. > > > > OK, maybe it's possible to explicitly create a 'fractional' > > system but that's not how the lightning network protocol is > > supposed to operate. > > > > > > > > > > Members of the community with the technical chops do the exams. > > > However, politics and self-interest being what they are I have > > > little doubt the debates will be 'lively' and degenerate into the > > > usual ad hominem as occurred in the lead up to the current fork. > > > > > > I guess it's a matter of "wait and see". Oh, so BCH price > > has doubled in a couple of days....but I don't think that means much > > since a lot of what's going on in cryptocurrency 'markets' > > is just gambling. > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > .... > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > >

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Re: Russian banks, Moscow exchange, to spearhead crypto currencies/ DCs race
by Steven Schear 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Unless its a permissionless blockchain its just hype. Warrant Canary creator On Aug 17, 2017 8:23 PM, "Zenaan Harkness" <zen(a)freedbms.net> wrote: Well, well, well :) I remember when I was a youngish child hearing my significant elders using the phrase "how about those clever Japanese!" in relation to some new SONY Walkman or whatnot. Perhaps the phrase for for our 3rd millennium shall be "how about those rational Russians!" (BTW, since it's a thousand years, not a million years, surely it should be called a thillenium, not a millenium?) ** Russia Turns to Cryptocurrencies to Counter US Sanctions http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click? u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413cb3652f&id=bd3d211491&e=5110f4b440 https://tomluongo.me/2017/08/13/russia-embrace-blockchain-counter-sanctions/ ------------------------------------------------------------ by Tom Luongo on Wed, Aug 16, 2017 The central depository for the Moscow Exchange, National Settlement Depository (NSD), announced that it is developing a platform to provide accounting services for digital assets like cryptocurrencies. The platform looks to be build a unit of account, very important in the volatile crypto-space, for people to value their assets in and have access to through a wallet platform. In short, the Moscow Exchange is taking a page out of Dan Larimer’s BitShares and its OpenLedger exchange to provide trading and accounting and banking services all validated and accessible through the blockchain.

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Russian banks, Moscow exchange, to spearhead crypto currencies/ DCs race
by Zenaan Harkness 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Well, well, well :) I remember when I was a youngish child hearing my significant elders using the phrase "how about those clever Japanese!" in relation to some new SONY Walkman or whatnot. Perhaps the phrase for for our 3rd millennium shall be "how about those rational Russians!" (BTW, since it's a thousand years, not a million years, surely it should be called a thillenium, not a millenium?) ** Russia Turns to Cryptocurrencies to Counter US Sanctions http://russia-insider.us9.list-manage1.com/track/click?u=fa2faf7034c3c3c413… https://tomluongo.me/2017/08/13/russia-embrace-blockchain-counter-sanctions/ ------------------------------------------------------------ by Tom Luongo on Wed, Aug 16, 2017 The central depository for the Moscow Exchange, National Settlement Depository (NSD), announced that it is developing a platform to provide accounting services for digital assets like cryptocurrencies. The platform looks to be build a unit of account, very important in the volatile crypto-space, for people to value their assets in and have access to through a wallet platform. In short, the Moscow Exchange is taking a page out of Dan Larimer’s BitShares and its OpenLedger exchange to provide trading and accounting and banking services all validated and accessible through the blockchain.

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free speech: Trump more like to pardon Julian Assange than The Butcher of Lybia
by Zenaan Harkness 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

There's a possibility Trump may be considering a pardon to Julian Assange. For free speech, and for whistleblowers, this would be an excellent day, should it happen. Here's a great irony of our age - the Liberal/Democrats of yesteryear, proclaiming the absolute right and unquestionable importance of free speech, have today been completely replaced by the "conservative right". Quite an amazing turn of history, really. ** Julian Assange meets Congressional Trump ally–remains tight lipped http://theduran.com/julian-assange-meets-congressional-trump-ally-remains-t… ------------------------------------------------------------ The meeting comes as Trump flaunts his ability to invoke Presidential pardons. The USA is building a massive military base on "Ukraine"'s Black Sea coast, so of course the USA MIBSC is going to "overlook" a few little fascist "indiscretions" in Ukraine. The hypocrisy of the USA knows no bounds. ** Ukraine erects a new fascist statue and America remains silent http://theduran.com/ukraine-erects-a-new-fascist-statue-and-america-remains… ------------------------------------------------------------ The American elites are not concerned with fascism and Donald Trump is certainly not a fascist nor anything else but a new brand of American politician. While non-fascist statures in the US are being vandalised, actual fascist statues are being erected in Ukraine. ** Vladimir Putin is more trusted globally than Donald Trump, survey shows http://theduran.com/new-survey-putin-more-trusted-globally-than-trump/ ------------------------------------------------------------ The results contain many surprises especially from South Korea, India and Turkey.

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Re: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides
by Steven Schear 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

Aren't we now facing an equivalent of China's Great Wall? The only acceptable response to unwanted free speech is more free speech. Since there may be no good legal avenues (at least in the short term) for the alt-right supporters, they should to push for using i2p. tor and cjdns, Bitcoin payment and namecoin (.bit) domains and/or launch an alt-DNS server + add-on software to tag ISP DNS' as "non-authoritative" in OS stacks (voluntary or otherwise). That way if a site, which was banned by registrars, can't be found via the ISP's DNS server, their OS will automatically select a user-provided DNS server (or from list of servers) to check for IP address resolution. One downside is failed DNS resolution notifications will take longer. Steve On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 7:31 PM, Zenaan Harkness <zen(a)freedbms.net> wrote: > "... > > Then they came for me — and there was no one left to speak for me." > > Martin Niemöller (1892–1984), German Lutheran pastor > https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... > > > "so glad" hey? > > This "glad"ness is the sad truth of our generation - despite (and > regardless of) all the comedy, tragedy, indifference and corruption, > the deepest issues of our day are inevitably sacrificed on the altar > of virtue signalling, thus not only blindly indulging in the most > superficial society the world has ever seen, but perpetuating its > very existence. > > > > On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 05:09:44PM -0400, Joshua wrote: > > I'm so glad to hear it! > > > > Sent from ProtonMail Mobile > > > > ---------- Forwarded message ---------- > > From: Mike Duvos<[mpd@wolf359.net](mailto:mpd@wolf359.net class=)> > > Date: On Wed, Aug 16, 2017 at 4:57 PM > > Subject: Fwd: Daily Stormer Hit From All Sides > > To: <[cypherpunks@cpunks.org](mailto:cypherpunks@cpunks.org )> > > CC: > > > > > Everyone's favorite Neo-Nazi parody and trolling site, The Daily > Stormer, written by Andrew Anglin, has had a bad several days. They > published an article calling the road rage victim at the "Unite the Right " > rally a "fat childless 32-year-old slut, " and the forces of political > correctness went wild. GoDaddy gave them 24 hours to find a new domain > registrar, and they moved to Google. Google cancelled their registration > and froze the domain, preventing them from moving it again, effectively > stealing it. They came back up as dailystormer.wang, in Chinese > jurisdiction, but that domain was seized after a few hours. They then tried > dailystormer.ru, but Cloudflare then dumped them after a Quartz article > accused Cloudflare of "Enabling Hate. " Twitter then cancelled their status > page. They've managed to get an onion address up, at dstormer6em3i4km.onion > which points to the few places they haven't been kicked off of yet. With > major chunks of important Internet infrastructure in the hands of giant > private corporations, who can decline service to anyone at any time for any > reason, unpopular speech can get stomped on without it technically being > "censorship ", which is regulation of speech by the government. Reading The > Daily Stormer doesn't make anyone a Nazi, anymore than reading The Landover > Baptist Church makes someone a Baptist. It will be interesting to see what > happens with the site, because right now, they are kind of the Spotted Owl > in the free speech forest. -- Mike Duvos mpd(a)wolf359.net >

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No one driving
by b0z0＠SDF.ORG 18 Aug '17

18 Aug '17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I0_vGhASjtU b0z0(a)sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

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Re: Tails prevents MAC changes as design feature
by Ryan Carboni 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

> > Geographical movement is revealed by device leaks before Tails boots. Tor is not meant to protect against a global active adversary. In any case, one should look at who was caught using Tor, and how one should improve upon them.

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2008 revision of Bitcoin whitepaper - original paper by satoshi nakamoto
by mark M 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Seeking original paper by satoshi nakamoto posted by satoshi at vistomail.com <cryptography%40metzdowd.com?Subject=Re%3A%20Bitcoin%20v0.1%20released&In-Reply-To=%3CCHILKAT-MID-3d087dc8-b531-1fd3-bebb-15dcffb225ce%40server123%3E> The current version of the whitepaper uploaded on Sourceforge is from 2009-03-24. This is the second version of the whitepaper. The first version was published on 2008-10-31. It was uploaded to www.bitcoin.org/bitcoin.pdf which is where the current version also resides. Did anyone here happen to download and save it? Does anyone have the original 2008 version of the whitepaper which was posted to this mailing list on Oct 31 2008/Nov 1 2009? thanks mark

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Ex NASA employee describes satellite weapons used for targeting individuals
by b0z0＠SDF.ORG 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pAtVbTDo3aA&index=2&list=UU9-Mn8xGQpTpuY-6k… Published on Aug 5, 2017 1 week ago Triumph Over Targeting Podcast with Ella Free, recorded August 1, 2017: Prolific author and prior NASA employee, Richard Lighthouse, discusses the possibility of satellite-based electromagnetic assaults on ordinary citizens. Richard also gives advice on shielding and other possible countermeasures that targeted victims can use to minimize or discourage such attacks. Richard Lighthouse has published 100+ e-books, many of which are available for free on his website (http://www.rlighthouse.com/) Some of his books may also be obtained from Apple iBooks, Lulu.com, BarnesAndNoble.com, Amazon.com, Google Play, Smashwords.com, and other websites. One of his books related to the topic of this podcast is titled 34 Patents on Subliminal Mind Control. Richard holds a Master's Degree in Mechanical Engineering from Stanford University and has previously worked for NASA. This author has been investigating satellite weapons, and the global microwave torture of thousands of people, since January, 2016. He has written several books on the topic, referencing a number of credible sources including Dr. Barrie Trower, a retired British Intelligence Officer with expertise in microwave warfare, interrogation techniques, and the dangers of EMF. Richard is emphatic that covert electromagnetic assaults and abuses amount to serious violations of our Constitutional rights, as well as war crimes according to international treaties. When such electromagnetic assaults are conducted against White House cabinets members and top government officials, they are nothing less than TREASON. b0z0(a)sdf.lonestar.org SDF Public Access UNIX System - http://sdf.lonestar.org

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Doxing White Supremacist Violent Crime; Search Tools
by Razer 17 Aug '17

17 Aug '17

Lawfare: https://lawfareblog.com/search-data-white-supremacist-violent-crime > In Search of Data on White Supremacist Violent Crime > > By Sarah Tate Chambers > > Thursday, August 17, 2017, 12:31 PM > > A cursory Google search for statistics on international terrorism, > including acts committed on U.S. soil by individuals linked to foreign > terrorist organizations, yields a gold mine. You can sort by group, > country, or year. Curious about how ISIS prosecutions differ among > federal districts? There’s data on that. > > But attempt to figure out the amount of violent crime committed by > white supremacists, internationally or domestically, and you’ll find > yourself sorting through various government documents that are > incomplete in a number of ways, covering only a small set of offenses > or failing to label the offender’s ideology with specificity. > > Why does this matter? Too often, white supremacists’ violent crimes > are dismissed as the workings of semi-isolated, but certainly > contained, individuals—so-called lone wolves. Without comprehensive > data made available to the public, this characterization is difficult > to rebut. Public access to this data is essential to full appreciation > of the breath and severity of this criminal behavior. > > In this post, I will explain the data and point out the gaps, > cataloging what is available from federal and state governments and > the non-governmental realm, as well as the data that might exist > despite not being open to public access. >

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