On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 08:47:07PM -0500, Geoffrey Fox wrote:
Here is a humourless reply so it can be ignored .....
As well as add-ons as you describe, I was thinking of idea of "GGF Community only meetings" organized to support a few communities e.g. a 2 day Midwest regional GGF community meeting in spring or summer (at a random place like Bloomington IN) where Midwest designation meant organizing committee came from Midwest. It would be aimed to support national communities and provide a US meeting between Boston 2005 and Boston 2006
I think this is a great idea, and might be easiest to start as regional university-based events, perhaps tied to favorite campus groups such as IEEE or ACM (get the students involved!). Another related idea is tying to other conferences.... BOFs or sessions...for a brief event. I wish we had been organized enough to do this at Supercomputing '05, but there are plenty of other conferences. -- Greg
Craig Lee wrote:
g) lack of humor in original email lulled me into complacency
My interpretation is that in addition to what we are doing now, e.g., community tracks at GGF meeting, we also need to do the dual, e.g., promote and support relatively small activities at the meetings of other communities. That is to say, rather than inviting a few people from other groups to talk at GGF meeting, we try to get ourselves invited to talk at the other group's meetings. Presumably this would be lower overhead for the other group and possibly GGF would get larger exposure to the other group.
This is essentially a more distributed operation with the number of meetings limited only by resources (time, staffing and money to attend other group meetings). Making the connections to get invited and then having effective presentations that speak to a particular community are essential. Follow-up would also be very necessary. I think this is all quite consistent with your Council Thoughts but certainly should be thought through some more.
--Craig
At 02:58 PM 9/8/2005, Gregory Newby wrote:
I sent the enclosed notes on a possible organization of community council But I got no response. I wonder if that meant a) Things are chugging along and organization is not important b) You were so amazed by brilliance of plan that you can't put words to email c) The plan seemed same as before d) You were so amazed by stupidity of plan that you can't put words to email e) You are too busy right now f) ggf emails are on your SPAM filter list
----------------------------------- I welcome comments on these thoughts and suggested reorganization whose main ideas are: A Community Plan designed to support communities rather than just exploiting GGF events Splitting of council roles into an advisory board and area
On Thu, Sep 08, 2005 at 04:02:49PM -0500, Geoffrey Fox wrote: directors as
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I think your ideas are right-on, Geoffrey. Highlights for me:
- success @ GGF14 - need more & smaller events - lack of GGF credibility/presence at some ongoing projects is a problem - high overhead for GFSG participation for likely community leaders is a problem
From my point of view, I'd say that the Community Council is already empowered to take most (nearly all) of the steps you mentioned. Some sort of 18-month calendar of possible activities, and expected changes in the status quo, would be good to present to the GFSG, perhaps at the upcoming f2f at GGF15.
One thing that is not so clear to me: how has recruiting gone for bringing in more people with ideas for community events, making community ties, and the like? It seems the NOMCOM made some progress, but your PPT points out that there needs to be a lot of activity that won't originate in the GFSG (or community advisory council). -- Greg
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