UR session @ OGF31 and latest storage accounting record draft from EMI
Hi, OGF31 is approaching rapidly and there will be a session on "Next Generation Usage Records". A part of the session will about storage accounting, so I would like to draw your attention to the latest draft of EMI's definition of a storage accounting. http://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/pub/EMI/StorageAccounting/StAR-EMI-tech-doc-v7.pd... Please not that this is still a draft and not formally approved yet. It may however serve as input to a fruitful discussion. cheers Jon
Hi Jon, I hope I'm still in time for some short comments: - From 2.4.5 to 2.4.9 it only specify the field type. I assume that the field is optional (e.g.: FileCount and DirectoryPath, if I use the information system to create a UR I don't know how many file are in the storage or the directory path to them). - 2.5 Site I agree that this information can be dynamic but when the record is created it belong to a certain site. I think it might be useful to have this extra information. - 2.5 FileNames Not much to say. It is written from the beginning of the document that for this UR definition you don't consider a per file accounting so it make sense that is excluded (I would have liked to have the field as optional but maybe this can be discussed more in OGF) - 2.5 SpaceAvailable I would add that it is also not in the scope of a UR. - 2.5 Transfer Information Indeed it is not strictly storage. But maybe in a more general definition it could make sense. But I agree because StAR is focused only on storage. Unfortunately it's now clear that I won't be at OGF this time. I hope next time to be present. Please send update to the list after OGF. Thank you Andrea On 03/11/2011 12:05 PM, Jon Kerr Nilsen wrote:
Hi,
OGF31 is approaching rapidly and there will be a session on "Next Generation Usage Records". A part of the session will about storage accounting, so I would like to draw your attention to the latest draft of EMI's definition of a storage accounting.
http://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/pub/EMI/StorageAccounting/StAR-EMI-tech-doc-v7.pd...
Please not that this is still a draft and not formally approved yet. It may however serve as input to a fruitful discussion.
cheers Jon
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Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes. John -- Scanned by iCritical.
Hi John, As you suggested I prepared a Doodle: http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd I have not seen a clear agenda up to now but for the moment it could be useful to start filling it. At least we will know the days that are better suited for a possible meeting. Andrea On 08/01/2011 04:46 PM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes.
John
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Andrea, I think you have too many slots. The agenda is here with OGF slots marked. https://www.egi.eu/indico/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=452#all The slots are 90 mins and plenaries are blocked. There is also an accounting workshop on Thursday so any oeple just planning for OGF might like to stay on a day. Regards, John From: Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it] Sent: 02 August 2011 10:35 To: Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC) Cc: ur-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [UR-WG] Session at OGF Hi John, As you suggested I prepared a Doodle: http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd I have not seen a clear agenda up to now but for the moment it could be useful to start filling it. At least we will know the days that are better suited for a possible meeting. Andrea On 08/01/2011 04:46 PM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk> wrote: Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes. John -- Scanned by iCritical. -- ur-wg mailing list ur-wg@ogf.org<mailto:ur-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ur-wg -- Andrea Cristofori INFN-CNAF Viale Berti Pichat 6/2 40127 Bologna Italy Tel. : +39-051-6092920 Skype: andrea-cnaf -- Scanned by iCritical.
Hi John, I corrected the pool using your link. I believe that in any case there will be slots for 90 or 45 minutes. Regards, Andrea On 08/02/2011 11:47 AM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
Andrea, I think you have too many slots. The agenda is here with OGF slots marked. https://www.egi.eu/indico/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=452#all
The slots are 90 mins and plenaries are blocked.
There is also an accounting workshop on Thursday so any oeple just planning for OGF might like to stay on a day.
Regards,
John
*From:*Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it] *Sent:* 02 August 2011 10:35 *To:* Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC) *Cc:* ur-wg@ogf.org *Subject:* Re: [UR-WG] Session at OGF
Hi John,
As you suggested I prepared a Doodle:
http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd
I have not seen a clear agenda up to now but for the moment it could be useful to start filling it. At least we will know the days that are better suited for a possible meeting.
Andrea
On 08/01/2011 04:46 PM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk <mailto:john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes.
John
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Dear all, Just a reminder for those that have not filled the pool: http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd It will be closed next Friday, the 12th of August. Please select the preferred slots before that date and then we will request a session to the organizer accordingly to the overall preferences. Regards, Andrea On 08/02/2011 12:07 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Hi John,
I corrected the pool using your link. I believe that in any case there will be slots for 90 or 45 minutes.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/02/2011 11:47 AM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
Andrea, I think you have too many slots. The agenda is here with OGF slots marked. https://www.egi.eu/indico/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=452#all
The slots are 90 mins and plenaries are blocked.
There is also an accounting workshop on Thursday so any oeple just planning for OGF might like to stay on a day.
Regards,
John
*From:*Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it] *Sent:* 02 August 2011 10:35 *To:* Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC) *Cc:* ur-wg@ogf.org *Subject:* Re: [UR-WG] Session at OGF
Hi John,
As you suggested I prepared a Doodle:
http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd
I have not seen a clear agenda up to now but for the moment it could be useful to start filling it. At least we will know the days that are better suited for a possible meeting.
Andrea
On 08/01/2011 04:46 PM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk <mailto:john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes.
John
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Dear all, I closed the doodle and asked for a slot on Wednesday afternoon from 4:00 PM to 5:30 PM. Regards, Andrea On 08/09/2011 02:48 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Dear all,
Just a reminder for those that have not filled the pool:
http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd
It will be closed next Friday, the 12th of August. Please select the preferred slots before that date and then we will request a session to the organizer accordingly to the overall preferences.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/02/2011 12:07 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Hi John,
I corrected the pool using your link. I believe that in any case there will be slots for 90 or 45 minutes.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/02/2011 11:47 AM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
Andrea, I think you have too many slots. The agenda is here with OGF slots marked. https://www.egi.eu/indico/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=452#all
The slots are 90 mins and plenaries are blocked.
There is also an accounting workshop on Thursday so any oeple just planning for OGF might like to stay on a day.
Regards,
John
*From:*Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it] *Sent:* 02 August 2011 10:35 *To:* Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC) *Cc:* ur-wg@ogf.org *Subject:* Re: [UR-WG] Session at OGF
Hi John,
As you suggested I prepared a Doodle:
http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd
I have not seen a clear agenda up to now but for the moment it could be useful to start filling it. At least we will know the days that are better suited for a possible meeting.
Andrea
On 08/01/2011 04:46 PM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk <mailto:john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes.
John
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Dear all, The organizers were not able to schedule a slot on Wednesday afternoon from 4:00 PM to 5:30 PM. An alternative could be on Tuesday at 2:00-3:30pm. What do you think? Regards, Andrea On 08/16/2011 04:28 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Dear all,
I closed the doodle and asked for a slot on Wednesday afternoon from 4:00 PM to 5:30 PM.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/09/2011 02:48 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Dear all,
Just a reminder for those that have not filled the pool:
http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd
It will be closed next Friday, the 12th of August. Please select the preferred slots before that date and then we will request a session to the organizer accordingly to the overall preferences.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/02/2011 12:07 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Hi John,
I corrected the pool using your link. I believe that in any case there will be slots for 90 or 45 minutes.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/02/2011 11:47 AM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
Andrea, I think you have too many slots. The agenda is here with OGF slots marked. https://www.egi.eu/indico/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=452#all
The slots are 90 mins and plenaries are blocked.
There is also an accounting workshop on Thursday so any oeple just planning for OGF might like to stay on a day.
Regards,
John
*From:*Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it] *Sent:* 02 August 2011 10:35 *To:* Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC) *Cc:* ur-wg@ogf.org *Subject:* Re: [UR-WG] Session at OGF
Hi John,
As you suggested I prepared a Doodle:
http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd
I have not seen a clear agenda up to now but for the moment it could be useful to start filling it. At least we will know the days that are better suited for a possible meeting.
Andrea
On 08/01/2011 04:46 PM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk <mailto:john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk> wrote:
Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes.
John
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Hi, Tuesday 2-3:30pm works for me. cheers, Jon On 14. sep. 2011, at 13:51, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Dear all,
The organizers were not able to schedule a slot on Wednesday afternoon from 4:00 PM to 5:30 PM. An alternative could be on Tuesday at 2:00-3:30pm. What do you think?
Regards, Andrea
On 08/16/2011 04:28 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Dear all,
I closed the doodle and asked for a slot on Wednesday afternoon from 4:00 PM to 5:30 PM.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/09/2011 02:48 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Dear all,
Just a reminder for those that have not filled the pool:
http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd
It will be closed next Friday, the 12th of August. Please select the preferred slots before that date and then we will request a session to the organizer accordingly to the overall preferences.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/02/2011 12:07 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote:
Hi John,
I corrected the pool using your link. I believe that in any case there will be slots for 90 or 45 minutes.
Regards, Andrea
On 08/02/2011 11:47 AM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
Andrea, I think you have too many slots. The agenda is here with OGF slots marked. https://www.egi.eu/indico/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=452#all
The slots are 90 mins and plenaries are blocked.
There is also an accounting workshop on Thursday so any oeple just planning for OGF might like to stay on a day.
Regards,
John
From: Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it] Sent: 02 August 2011 10:35 To: Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC) Cc: ur-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [UR-WG] Session at OGF
Hi John,
As you suggested I prepared a Doodle:
http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd
I have not seen a clear agenda up to now but for the moment it could be useful to start filling it. At least we will know the days that are better suited for a possible meeting.
Andrea
On 08/01/2011 04:46 PM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk wrote: Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes.
John
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I had hoped to go to the virtualisation workshop then but I would give priority to the UR-WG. John From: Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it] Sent: 14 September 2011 12:52 To: Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC) Cc: ur-wg@ogf.org Subject: Re: [UR-WG] Session at OGF Dear all, The organizers were not able to schedule a slot on Wednesday afternoon from 4:00 PM to 5:30 PM. An alternative could be on Tuesday at 2:00-3:30pm. What do you think? Regards, Andrea On 08/16/2011 04:28 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote: Dear all, I closed the doodle and asked for a slot on Wednesday afternoon from 4:00 PM to 5:30 PM. Regards, Andrea On 08/09/2011 02:48 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote: Dear all, Just a reminder for those that have not filled the pool: http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd It will be closed next Friday, the 12th of August. Please select the preferred slots before that date and then we will request a session to the organizer accordingly to the overall preferences. Regards, Andrea On 08/02/2011 12:07 PM, Andrea Cristofori wrote: Hi John, I corrected the pool using your link. I believe that in any case there will be slots for 90 or 45 minutes. Regards, Andrea On 08/02/2011 11:47 AM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk> wrote: Andrea, I think you have too many slots. The agenda is here with OGF slots marked. https://www.egi.eu/indico/conferenceTimeTable.py?confId=452#all The slots are 90 mins and plenaries are blocked. There is also an accounting workshop on Thursday so any oeple just planning for OGF might like to stay on a day. Regards, John From: Andrea Cristofori [mailto:andrea.cristofori@cnaf.infn.it] Sent: 02 August 2011 10:35 To: Gordon, John (STFC,RAL,ESC) Cc: ur-wg@ogf.org<mailto:ur-wg@ogf.org> Subject: Re: [UR-WG] Session at OGF Hi John, As you suggested I prepared a Doodle: http://www.doodle.com/wg6kirm7wbbyikyd I have not seen a clear agenda up to now but for the moment it could be useful to start filling it. At least we will know the days that are better suited for a possible meeting. Andrea On 08/01/2011 04:46 PM, john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk<mailto:john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk> wrote: Can we schedule a UR-WG meeting in Lyon? There are lots of EGI and EMI things happening in parallel so perhaps we should doodle to avoid clashes. John -- Scanned by iCritical. -- ur-wg mailing list ur-wg@ogf.org<mailto:ur-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ur-wg -- Andrea Cristofori INFN-CNAF Viale Berti Pichat 6/2 40127 Bologna Italy Tel. : +39-051-6092920 Skype: andrea-cnaf -- Scanned by iCritical. -- Andrea Cristofori INFN-CNAF Viale Berti Pichat 6/2 40127 Bologna Italy Tel. : +39-051-6092920 Skype: andrea-cnaf -- ur-wg mailing list ur-wg@ogf.org<mailto:ur-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ur-wg -- Andrea Cristofori INFN-CNAF Viale Berti Pichat 6/2 40127 Bologna Italy Tel. : +39-051-6092920 Skype: andrea-cnaf -- ur-wg mailing list ur-wg@ogf.org<mailto:ur-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ur-wg -- Andrea Cristofori INFN-CNAF Viale Berti Pichat 6/2 40127 Bologna Italy Tel. : +39-051-6092920 Skype: andrea-cnaf -- ur-wg mailing list ur-wg@ogf.org<mailto:ur-wg@ogf.org> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/ur-wg -- Andrea Cristofori INFN-CNAF Viale Berti Pichat 6/2 40127 Bologna Italy Tel. : +39-051-6092920 Skype: andrea-cnaf -- Scanned by iCritical.
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Jon Kerr Nilsen