Thanks for including me in this discussion. The topic of an aggregate accounting record is being discussed in the Usage Record Working group. Donal Fellows (of Manchester University in the UK) is working on version 2 of the UR specification, which is intended to be more conducive to aggregation than the original specification (version 1) was. I would like to continue discussion of the AAR with you and anyone you're working with, within the context of the Usage Record Working Group. I have included the UR-WG on this email. Could you please bring us up to date on what you've been working on and what your plans are? Also, if you have a draft of this document, please pass it on to the group. Thx LM ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++ Laura F. McGinnis, Project Coordinator Data & Information Resource Services Pittsburgh Supercomputing Center email: lfm@psc.edu 300 South Craig St, #313 phone: 412-268-5642 Pittsburgh, PA 15213 fax: 412-268-5832 ++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

-----Original Message----- From: Andre Merzky [mailto:andre@merzky.net] Sent: Sunday, July 30, 2006 12:47 PM To: Xiaoyu Chen Cc: Andre Merzky; lfm@psc.edu; Joel Replogle Subject: Re: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate Accounting Record

Hi Xiaoyu,

if its an document which goes into the UR-WG project, you don't need to create a new project (that is what you did). You should do:

- login to grid forge http://forge.ggf.org/ - go to the project home http://forge.ggf.org/sf/projects/ur-wg - click on the 'Document' toll tab (top) - select the right folder the doc should go to - select 'Create' to create a document entry, and upload the document.

To upload documents, you need to be a member of the group. As you were not group member, I made you one (you have two SF logins, xchen and x_chen, I picked xchen).

I Cc Laura McGinnis, who chairs the group. Laura, is that ok?

Hope that helps,

Andre.

Quoting [Xiaoyu Chen] (Jul 27 2006):

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hi, Andre:

I am totally confused!

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schema which is supposed to be uploaded. If i am right, the schema and draft specification should go to GGF-URWG. So what should i do?

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From: Andre Merzky [mailto:andre@merzky.net] Sent: 27/07/2006 (??????) 16:13 To: Xiaoyu Chen Cc: Joel Replogle Subject: Re: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate Accounting Record

Hi Xiaoyu,

we have been discussion the creation of new GridForge

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seems I was somewhat rash to confirm the project creation for you. In fact, we think that projects should not get created unless the respective groups did undergo the correct chartering

I am working for LCG and defined an aggregate accounting projects, and it process, and have

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acceptance from their ADs etc.

For chartering a new group, please use

http://www.ggf.org/gf/group_info/charter.php?new

(your GridForge loging is valid there). If a group is created, we will automatically create a GF project page for it.

If you want to have separate projects for work which is done in an existing group, please try first to do that work with that groups project - let us know if that meets any technical challenges.

So, I removed the projects again (fortunately they still seems empty), and hope that you can work on either to create a new group, or to use a current group project.

Best regards, sorry for the confusion,

Andre.

Quoting [Andre Merzky] (Jul 27 2006):

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Hi Xiaoyu,

would it be possible to use an acronym for the project, such as 'AAR'? Also, is that intended to be a WG or RG? Then we

would very

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much prefer 'AAR-WG' or 'AAR-RG', in order to keep the project naming in GridForge somewhat consistent.

Best regards,

Andre.

Quoting [SourceForge Administrator] (Jul 27 2006):

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From: SourceForge Administrator <ggf-it@ggf.org> To: Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net> Subject: SourceForge project creation request: Aggregate Accounting Record Date: Wed, 26 Jul 2006 19:17:23 -0500 (CDT)

A new project was requested.

Title: Aggregate Accounting Record Name:

Description: This project recommends representation format for aggregate usage record that encapsulates high-level view information for different accounting user agents. Extending from GGF-UR, the aggregate schema is to facilitate common extensibility for data sharing between multiple sites and Grid infrastructures. Some element names are redefined from GGF-UR standard for usage conventions in real Grid environment. Although this document does not intend to recommend the usage of an aggregate usage record and underlying transport mechanism, it is proposed to facilitate resource usage service based on implementation experiences and potential issues.

Requested By: Xiaoyu Chen

Approve or reject the project by visiting:

http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/global/do/viewProjectRequest/rqst100

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