Reminder: Telcon meeting today 28.02.2012 @ 15:00 CET

Hi all, As we postponed last week's meeting one week, the next meeting is today. We'll go through the actions mentioned below and possibly make some new ones. Just to try out something new, I suggest we try the Skype conference room in Lund (which is starting to get stable now). So you can call in to Place: Skype Skype contact: lund.room.1 Phone bridge: +46462884608 cheers, Jon Actions from last meeting: - AC: Ask for another session the same day at OGF and update the agenda on OGF website - JKN: make public the document - All: write some examples for the different use cases (minima, grid, local, etc.) (Ralph local, JAK Grid/dCache) Especially for John Gordon: can you please comment on those two use cases: As a project I would like to be able to view the used and unused storage space that I have on a storage resource. - Thus I can see how much headroom I have. All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required As a project I would like to be able to view the requested storage I have on a specific resource and the allocated/reserved resources I have on that resource. - Thus I can see I asked for 100TB and I currently have only 80TB at my disposal (of which i am using 50TB). All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required

In this document you will find the WLCG Requirement defined. I won't have time to transcribe it to the wiki before today's meeting. https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/pub/LCG/WLCGCommonComputingReadinessChallenges/W... From: ur-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ur-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Jon Kerr Nilsen Sent: 28 February 2012 09:26 To: ur-wg@ogf.org Subject: [UR-WG] Reminder: Telcon meeting today 28.02.2012 @ 15:00 CET Hi all, As we postponed last week's meeting one week, the next meeting is today. We'll go through the actions mentioned below and possibly make some new ones. Just to try out something new, I suggest we try the Skype conference room in Lund (which is starting to get stable now). So you can call in to Place: Skype Skype contact: lund.room.1 Phone bridge: +46462884608 cheers, Jon Actions from last meeting: - AC: Ask for another session the same day at OGF and update the agenda on OGF website - JKN: make public the document - All: write some examples for the different use cases (minima, grid, local, etc.) (Ralph local, JAK Grid/dCache) Especially for John Gordon: can you please comment on those two use cases: 1. As a project I would like to be able to view the used and unused storage space that I have on a storage resource. - Thus I can see how much headroom I have. All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required 1. As a project I would like to be able to view the requested storage I have on a specific resource and the allocated/reserved resources I have on that resource. - Thus I can see I asked for 100TB and I currently have only 80TB at my disposal (of which i am using 50TB). All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required -- Scanned by iCritical.

Do I understand from this that your wish is to use usage records to populate local BDII/MDS information systems with current status information which adheres to the Glue schema? If that is the case then surely status information fed directly into the BDII/GRIS infrastructure is the better approach. If system snapshots are taken for the generation of URs then why not use this data directly to populate BDII/GRIS, send status data their way and at the same time create URs and send usage data to the systems the rely upon URs; rather than encode as UR then decode UR to insert into BDII/GRIS/GIIS. Or have I missed something? Mike On Tuesday 28 February 2012 10:05:41 john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk wrote:
In this document you will find the WLCG Requirement defined. I won't have time to transcribe it to the wiki before today's meeting.
https://twiki.cern.ch/twiki/pub/LCG/WLCGCommonComputingReadinessChallenges/ WLCG_GlueSchemaUsage-1.8.pdf
From: ur-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:ur-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Jon Kerr Nilsen Sent: 28 February 2012 09:26 To: ur-wg@ogf.org Subject: [UR-WG] Reminder: Telcon meeting today 28.02.2012 @ 15:00 CET
Hi all,
As we postponed last week's meeting one week, the next meeting is today. We'll go through the actions mentioned below and possibly make some new ones. Just to try out something new, I suggest we try the Skype conference room in Lund (which is starting to get stable now). So you can call in to
Place: Skype Skype contact: lund.room.1 Phone bridge: +46462884608
cheers, Jon
Actions from last meeting:
- AC: Ask for another session the same day at OGF and update the agenda on OGF website - JKN: make public the document - All: write some examples for the different use cases (minima, grid, local, etc.) (Ralph local, JAK Grid/dCache)
Especially for John Gordon: can you please comment on those two use cases:
1. As a project I would like to be able to view the used and unused storage space that I have on a storage resource. - Thus I can see how much headroom I have. All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required
1. As a project I would like to be able to view the requested storage I have on a specific resource and the allocated/reserved resources I have on that resource. - Thus I can see I asked for 100TB and I currently have only 80TB at my disposal (of which i am using 50TB). All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required

Hi Jon, I'll try to join. I have another meeting at 14:30 but I hope I can leave early. I didn't finish my homework but I did learn a few things... johnk p.s. I am trying to finish an example grid UR now in the next 25 mins - don't hold your breath. On 02/28/2012 10:25 AM, Jon Kerr Nilsen wrote:
Hi all,
As we postponed last week's meeting one week, the next meeting is today. We'll go through the actions mentioned below and possibly make some new ones. Just to try out something new, I suggest we try the Skype conference room in Lund (which is starting to get stable now). So you can call in to
Place: Skype Skype contact: lund.room.1 Phone bridge: +46462884608
cheers, Jon
Actions from last meeting:
- AC: Ask for another session the same day at OGF and update the agenda on OGF website - JKN: make public the document - All: write some examples for the different use cases (minima, grid, local, etc.) (Ralph local, JAK Grid/dCache)
Especially for John Gordon: can you please comment on those two use cases:
1. As a project I would like to be able to view the used and unused storage space that I have on a storage resource. - Thus I can see how much headroom I have.
All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required
1. As a project I would like to be able to view the requested storage I have on a specific resource and the allocated/reserved resources I have on that resource. - Thus I can see I asked for 100TB and I currently have only 80TB at my disposal (of which i am using 50TB).
All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required
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Hi all, I added a local example to the Wiki. Cheers, Ralph Jon Kerr Nilsen wrote on 28.02.2012 10:25:
Hi all,
As we postponed last week's meeting one week, the next meeting is today. We'll go through the actions mentioned below and possibly make some new ones. Just to try out something new, I suggest we try the Skype conference room in Lund (which is starting to get stable now). So you can call in to
Place: Skype Skype contact: lund.room.1 Phone bridge: +46462884608
cheers, Jon
Actions from last meeting:
- AC: Ask for another session the same day at OGF and update the agenda on OGF website - JKN: make public the document - All: write some examples for the different use cases (minima, grid, local, etc.) (Ralph local, JAK Grid/dCache)
Especially for John Gordon: can you please comment on those two use cases:
1. As a project I would like to be able to view the used and unused storage space that I have on a storage resource. - Thus I can see how much headroom I have.
All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required
1. As a project I would like to be able to view the requested storage I have on a specific resource and the allocated/reserved resources I have on that resource. - Thus I can see I asked for 100TB and I currently have only 80TB at my disposal (of which i am using 50TB).
All: seems to be more monitoring Comments from John are required
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participants (5)
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john alan kennedy
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john.gordon@stfc.ac.uk
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Jon Kerr Nilsen
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Mike Jones
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Ralph Mueller-Pfefferkorn