August 2006 - tsc - lists.ogf.org

Draft 0.1 of the technical Strategy Document.
by David Snelling 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Folks, Here is the initial draft I promised last week based on our agreement around the outline. Sorry for the slight delay, I had no network access over the weekend. Here is the todo list: 1) Tuesday I go on Holiday and will probably not have email access, but you never know. 2) Geoffery has the pen, so send all change suggestions to the list and let Geoffery add them to the document. 3) There are outstanding actions (highlighted in yellow in the document) for Steven and Chris. Send text to Geoffery via the list. 4) This document will be presented to the BoD on the 24th. Geoffery: Make sure Mark L has the latest version on Wednesday night! 5) The following is the status section for this document: This is a DRAFT document. The contents at this time DO NOT yet reflect the consensus view of the Technical Strategy Committee. It is being provided to gain input and feedback with respect to the structure and type of content, e.g. is this document fit for purpose? Feedback on the technical content is NOT expected at this early stage of development. Eventually, distribution will be unlimited, but for the time being, distribution is limited to the Technical Strategy Committee (TSC), the Board of Directors (BoD), and the Grid Forum Steering Group (GFSG). 6) Mark PLEASE make sure the BoD read this paragraph at least. I am not happy showing documents outside of any group with so little time to generate consensus. 7) Mark also lead the BoD to provide comments as requested, e.g. wrt fit for purpose rather than technical content. The later needs more time. There is now a GF project for the TSC. I have put the document under Drafts and attached it here. In future, let's try to limit attachments. https://forge.gridforum.org/sf/projects/tsc -- Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)

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TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC
by Joel Replogle 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

All - The next TSC call is tomorrow, 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC (9:00am CDT). Toll-free numbers: United Kingdom 0808 1005145 USA 866-248-5984 Netherlands 0800 0223422 Passcode: 2051278 Thanks, Joel ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org

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Re: [tsc] TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC
by Chris Kantarjiev 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

FoxClocks (http://www.stemhaus.com/firefox/foxclocks/) and http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html are your friend :-) -----Original Message----- >From Joel Replogle <replogle(a)ggf.org> Sent Thu 8/31/2006 6:27 AM To David Snelling <David.Snelling(a)UK.Fujitsu.com> Cc tsc(a)ogf.org Subject Re: [tsc] TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC My apologies - The UTC time is correct, my time-zone math was off. :-) Thanks for the clarification, Dave. Joel On Aug 31, 2006, at 8:40 AM, David Snelling wrote: > Folks, > > I make 1600 UTC 11:00 CDT. > > On 30 Aug 2006, at 18:25, Joel Replogle wrote: > >> All - The next TSC call is tomorrow, 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC >> (9:00am CDT). >> >> Toll-free numbers: >> United Kingdom 0808 1005145 >> USA 866-248-5984 >> Netherlands 0800 0223422 >> >> Passcode: 2051278 >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joel >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> ----------- >> Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum >> replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tsc mailing list >> tsc(a)ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc > > -- > > Take care: > > Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe > Hayes Park Central > Hayes End Road > Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE > > +44-208-606-4649 (Office) > +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) > +44-7768-807526 (Mobile) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org _______________________________________________ tsc mailing list tsc(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc

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Re: [tsc] TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC
by Chris Kantarjiev 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

FoxClocks (http://www.stemhaus.com/firefox/foxclocks/) and http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html are your friend :-) -----Original Message----- >From Joel Replogle <replogle(a)ggf.org> Sent Thu 8/31/2006 6:27 AM To David Snelling <David.Snelling(a)UK.Fujitsu.com> Cc tsc(a)ogf.org Subject Re: [tsc] TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC My apologies - The UTC time is correct, my time-zone math was off. :-) Thanks for the clarification, Dave. Joel On Aug 31, 2006, at 8:40 AM, David Snelling wrote: > Folks, > > I make 1600 UTC 11:00 CDT. > > On 30 Aug 2006, at 18:25, Joel Replogle wrote: > >> All - The next TSC call is tomorrow, 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC >> (9:00am CDT). >> >> Toll-free numbers: >> United Kingdom 0808 1005145 >> USA 866-248-5984 >> Netherlands 0800 0223422 >> >> Passcode: 2051278 >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joel >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> ----------- >> Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum >> replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tsc mailing list >> tsc(a)ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc > > -- > > Take care: > > Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe > Hayes Park Central > Hayes End Road > Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE > > +44-208-606-4649 (Office) > +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) > +44-7768-807526 (Mobile) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org _______________________________________________ tsc mailing list tsc(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc

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Re: [tsc] TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC
by Chris Kantarjiev 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

FoxClocks (http://www.stemhaus.com/firefox/foxclocks/) and http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html are your friend :-) -----Original Message----- >From Joel Replogle <replogle(a)ggf.org> Sent Thu 8/31/2006 6:27 AM To David Snelling <David.Snelling(a)UK.Fujitsu.com> Cc tsc(a)ogf.org Subject Re: [tsc] TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC My apologies - The UTC time is correct, my time-zone math was off. :-) Thanks for the clarification, Dave. Joel On Aug 31, 2006, at 8:40 AM, David Snelling wrote: > Folks, > > I make 1600 UTC 11:00 CDT. > > On 30 Aug 2006, at 18:25, Joel Replogle wrote: > >> All - The next TSC call is tomorrow, 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC >> (9:00am CDT). >> >> Toll-free numbers: >> United Kingdom 0808 1005145 >> USA 866-248-5984 >> Netherlands 0800 0223422 >> >> Passcode: 2051278 >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joel >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> ----------- >> Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum >> replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tsc mailing list >> tsc(a)ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc > > -- > > Take care: > > Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe > Hayes Park Central > Hayes End Road > Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE > > +44-208-606-4649 (Office) > +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) > +44-7768-807526 (Mobile) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org _______________________________________________ tsc mailing list tsc(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc

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Re: [tsc] TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC
by Chris Kantarjiev 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

FoxClocks (http://www.stemhaus.com/firefox/foxclocks/) and http://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/converter.html are your friend :-) -----Original Message----- >From Joel Replogle <replogle(a)ggf.org> Sent Thu 8/31/2006 6:27 AM To David Snelling <David.Snelling(a)UK.Fujitsu.com> Cc tsc(a)ogf.org Subject Re: [tsc] TSC call 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC My apologies - The UTC time is correct, my time-zone math was off. :-) Thanks for the clarification, Dave. Joel On Aug 31, 2006, at 8:40 AM, David Snelling wrote: > Folks, > > I make 1600 UTC 11:00 CDT. > > On 30 Aug 2006, at 18:25, Joel Replogle wrote: > >> All - The next TSC call is tomorrow, 31 August 2006 at 1600 UTC >> (9:00am CDT). >> >> Toll-free numbers: >> United Kingdom 0808 1005145 >> USA 866-248-5984 >> Netherlands 0800 0223422 >> >> Passcode: 2051278 >> >> >> Thanks, >> >> Joel >> >> --------------------------------------------------------------------- >> --- >> ----------- >> Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum >> replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org >> >> _______________________________________________ >> tsc mailing list >> tsc(a)ogf.org >> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc > > -- > > Take care: > > Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe > Hayes Park Central > Hayes End Road > Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE > > +44-208-606-4649 (Office) > +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) > +44-7768-807526 (Mobile) > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Global Grid Forum replogle(a)ggf.org http://www.ggf.org _______________________________________________ tsc mailing list tsc(a)ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc

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Call Agenda (and Time)
by David Snelling 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Folks, Here is a start for the agenda for today's call. Call Time 16:00 UTC (11:00 CDT, 17:00 BST) Pass code: 2051278 United Kingdom 0808 1005145 USA 866-248-5984 Netherlands 0800 0223422 1) Preliminaries: Minute taker assignment - Joel Attendance Call for AOB Date of Next meeting Agenda Bashing 2) Document Next Steps and Issues a - Data Provisioning b - Service Level Agreements c - Process section d - Agreement on Models e - Mark's inline Comments For a, b, and c I think a short discussion followed by assignment of a person to work on text will do. For d, we seem to agree pretty well on what Mark called " Grid Segmentation Model". I think the next step would be to identify which other models we need, and again assign interested parties. For e, I suggest I take the pen to incorporate/respond to those. Process: - Deadline for input from assignees EOB-US Friday. - I'll do my changes and incorporate what I have by EOB Tuesday. - Call for strong objections to the draft to close by EOB-US Thursday. - Final version (by me) by EOB-Japan Friday. 3) The BoD had some questions about TSC membership. 4) We need some slide we can all use based on this stuff. 5) AOB -- Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)

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Re: [tsc] Fyi - interesting development regarding grids and Eclipse
by Ian Foster 31 Aug '06

31 Aug '06

Mark: It is worth mentioning that there is already a lot of nice work in this space, such as the OSU Introduce project and Borja Sotamayor's work with Eclipse. There is a minisymposium at OGF/GW that seeks to bring together different efforts. See: http://www.gridworld.com/live/42/events/42WDC06A/conference/tracksessions/C…. Ian. At 09:51 AM 8/30/2006 -0500, Linesch, Mark wrote: >Content-class: urn:content-classes:message >Content-Type: multipart/alternative; > boundary="----_=_NextPart_001_01C6CC43.B8AFB0E0" > >From: eclipse.org-membership-at-large-bounces(a)eclipse.org >[<mailto:eclipse.org-membership-at-large-bounces@eclipse.org>mailto:eclipse.org-membership-at-large-bounces@eclipse.org] >On Behalf Of Anne Jacko >Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:41 AM >To: eclipse.org-committers(a)eclipse.org; >eclipse.org-membership-at-large(a)eclipse.org >Subject: [eclipse.org-membership-at-large] Eclipse project declaration >Declaration for the g-Eclipse Project >The g-Eclipse project is a proposed open-source project under the Eclipse >Technology top-level project. A proposal has been written to solicit >additional participation and input from the Eclipse community: ><http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/g-eclipse/>http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/g-eclipse/. > >Grid infrastructures are becoming the backbone of those fields of science >and research that need to solve complex computational problems. However, >the complexity of Grid infrastructures is often discouraging to new and >inexperienced users and impedes the use of Grid technologies in new >application domains. The g-Eclipse project will provide an integrated Grid >enabled environment based on Eclipse that aims at facilitating the use of >Grid infrastructures. > >You are invited to comment and/or join the project. Please send all >feedback to the ><news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.modeling.mdt>news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.g-eclipse >newsgroup. > >Anne Jacko >Development Process Operations Support ><mailto:emo@eclipse.org>emo(a)eclipse.org > >Mark Linesch : Open Grid Forum (OGF) : Hewlett Packard >281-514-0322 (Tel) : 281-414-7082 (Cell) : mark.linesch(a)hp.com : >linesch(a)ogf.org > ><http://www.gridworld.com/>GridWorld/GGF18/GlobusWORLD Discover, Network, >Engage ... Sept. 11-14, 2006 >_______________________________________________ >tsc mailing list >tsc(a)ogf.org >http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/tsc _______________________________________________________________ Ian Foster -- Weblog: http://ianfoster.typepad.com Computation Institute: www.ci.uchicago.edu & www.ci.anl.gov Argonne: MCS/221, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne, IL 60439 Chicago: Rm 405, 5640 S. Ellis Ave, Chicago, IL 60637 Tel: +1 630 252 4619 --- Globus Alliance: www.globus.org

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Fyi - interesting development regarding grids and Eclipse
by Linesch, Mark 30 Aug '06

30 Aug '06

From: eclipse.org-membership-at-large-bounces(a)eclipse.org [mailto:eclipse.org-membership-at-large-bounces@eclipse.org] On Behalf Of Anne Jacko Sent: Friday, August 25, 2006 9:41 AM To: eclipse.org-committers(a)eclipse.org; eclipse.org-membership-at-large(a)eclipse.org Subject: [eclipse.org-membership-at-large] Eclipse project declaration Declaration for the g-Eclipse Project The g-Eclipse project is a proposed open-source project under the Eclipse Technology top-level project. A proposal has been written to solicit additional participation and input from the Eclipse community: http://www.eclipse.org/proposals/g-eclipse/. Grid infrastructures are becoming the backbone of those fields of science and research that need to solve complex computational problems. However, the complexity of Grid infrastructures is often discouraging to new and inexperienced users and impedes the use of Grid technologies in new application domains. The g-Eclipse project will provide an integrated Grid enabled environment based on Eclipse that aims at facilitating the use of Grid infrastructures. You are invited to comment and/or join the project. Please send all feedback to the news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.technology.g-eclipse <news://news.eclipse.org/eclipse.modeling.mdt> newsgroup. Anne Jacko Development Process Operations Support emo(a)eclipse.org Mark Linesch : Open Grid Forum (OGF) : Hewlett Packard 281-514-0322 (Tel) : 281-414-7082 (Cell) : mark.linesch(a)hp.com : linesch(a)ogf.org GridWorld/GGF18/GlobusWORLD <http://www.gridworld.com/> Discover, Network, Engage ... Sept. 11-14, 2006

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Draft Agenda for Thursday's Call
by David Snelling 17 Aug '06

17 Aug '06

Folks, Here is a draft agenda for today's call: 1) Minute taker assignment - Joel? 2) Attendance 3) Call for AOB 4) Date of Next meeting 5) Agenda Bashing 6) Meeting with Gold and Plat members 7) A plan for creating a document for the BoD by August 25th - Contents - Assignments 8) Evolving/Re-branding/Replacing OGSA 9) AOB -- Take care: Dr. David Snelling < David . Snelling . UK . Fujitsu . com > Fujitsu Laboratories of Europe Hayes Park Central Hayes End Road Hayes, Middlesex UB4 8FE +44-208-606-4649 (Office) +44-208-606-4539 (Fax) +44-7768-807526 (Mobile)

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