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Joshua Preston

13 Jun 2020 13 Jun '20

4:31 p.m.

A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org Thoughts? [image: image.png]

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Greg Newby

13 Jun 13 Jun

4:49 p.m.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:31:10PM -0400, Joshua Preston via socialmedia wrote:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

Looks great! - Greg

Laura N

4:56 p.m.

Awesome! What about Margaret Cavendish and Charlotte Perkins Gilman? Laura Em sáb., 13 de jun. de 2020 às 17:32, Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> escreveu:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

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Hey Laura et al - here's a variation. I got all the names from here: https://dev.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/403 Names in plain text at bottom of screenshot. [image: image.png] AUTHORS: Andre Norton Anne Walker Ayn Rand Barbara Constant C. L. Moore Evelyn E. Smith Greye La Spina Helen Huber Helen M. Urban Karen Anderson Katherine MacLean L. Taylor Hansen Leigh Brackett Leigh Richmond Leigh Richmond and Walt Richmond Lyn Venable Marion Zimmer Bradley Mary E. Bradley Lane Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley Pauline Ashwell Sonya Dorman T. D. Hamm Therese Windser Various Victoria Glad On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:56 PM Laura N wrote:

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Awesome! What about Margaret Cavendish and Charlotte Perkins Gilman?

Laura

Em sáb., 13 de jun. de 2020 às 17:32, Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> escreveu:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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Joshua Preston

7:29 p.m.

Icing on the cake? Click a dot to go to story link! https://public.tableau.com/views/ProjectGutenberg-WomenSci-FiWriters/Dashboard12?:display_count=y&publish=yes&:origin=viz_share_link:showVizHome=no On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 2:47 PM Joshua Preston wrote:

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Hey Laura et al - here's a variation. I got all the names from here: https://dev.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/403

Names in plain text at bottom of screenshot.

[image: image.png]

AUTHORS: Andre Norton Anne Walker Ayn Rand Barbara Constant C. L. Moore Evelyn E. Smith Greye La Spina Helen Huber Helen M. Urban Karen Anderson Katherine MacLean L. Taylor Hansen Leigh Brackett Leigh Richmond Leigh Richmond and Walt Richmond Lyn Venable Marion Zimmer Bradley Mary E. Bradley Lane Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley Pauline Ashwell Sonya Dorman T. D. Hamm Therese Windser Various Victoria Glad

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:56 PM Laura N wrote:

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Awesome! What about Margaret Cavendish and Charlotte Perkins Gilman?

Laura

Em sáb., 13 de jun. de 2020 às 17:32, Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> escreveu:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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Greg Newby

14 Jun 14 Jun

12:36 a.m.

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Icing on the cake? Click a dot to go to story link!

https://public.tableau.com/views/ProjectGutenberg-WomenSci-FiWriters/Dashboard12?:display_count=y&publish=yes&:origin=viz_share_link:showVizHome=no

Great! - Greg

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On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 2:47 PM Joshua Preston wrote:

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Hey Laura et al - here's a variation. I got all the names from here: https://dev.gutenberg.org/ebooks/bookshelf/403

Names in plain text at bottom of screenshot.

[image: image.png]

AUTHORS: Andre Norton Anne Walker Ayn Rand Barbara Constant C. L. Moore Evelyn E. Smith Greye La Spina Helen Huber Helen M. Urban Karen Anderson Katherine MacLean L. Taylor Hansen Leigh Brackett Leigh Richmond Leigh Richmond and Walt Richmond Lyn Venable Marion Zimmer Bradley Mary E. Bradley Lane Mary Wollstonecraft Shelley Pauline Ashwell Sonya Dorman T. D. Hamm Therese Windser Various Victoria Glad

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 12:56 PM Laura N wrote:

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Awesome! What about Margaret Cavendish and Charlotte Perkins Gilman?

Laura

Em sáb., 13 de jun. de 2020 às 17:32, Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> escreveu:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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Andrew Sly

13 Jun 13 Jun

9:05 p.m.

One thing that's good to be aware of, is that any "bookshelf" listing like that is reliant on having a volunteer manually add books to it. So there is no guarantee of the list being complete or up to date. Some Bookshelfs may just be a list that one volunteer made once upon a time, and has not been updated since. With that said, it's still a valuable thing to do, as long as we keep in mind the limitations of it. --Andrew On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:32 AM Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> wrote:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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Joshua Preston

14 Jun 14 Jun

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Thx for the good info. Still learning the ropes:) Is their a way to get a more definitive list? I plan to do more ‘genre’ focused graphics in the long term so I’m curious how that might work if bookshelves aren’t comprehensive. Thx Andrew. On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:06 PM Andrew Sly wrote:

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One thing that's good to be aware of, is that any "bookshelf" listing like that is reliant on having a volunteer manually add books to it. So there is no guarantee of the list being complete or up to date.

Some Bookshelfs may just be a list that one volunteer made once upon a time, and has not been updated since.

With that said, it's still a valuable thing to do, as long as we keep in mind the limitations of it.

--Andrew

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:32 AM Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> wrote:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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Greg Newby

12:39 a.m.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 08:00:40PM -0400, Joshua Preston via socialmedia wrote:

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Thx for the good info. Still learning the ropes:)

Is their a way to get a more definitive list? I plan to do more ‘genre’ focused graphics in the long term so I’m curious how that might work if bookshelves aren’t comprehensive. Thx Andrew.

Subject cataloging is generally up to date, minus the last week or two of postings. These are assigned by our (human) cataloging team. You can get to subject listings via the 'bibrec' portion of any eBook landing page, and (just like authors) get a listing of all matching items. BTW, note that we are still tweaking the dev site, especially the eBook landing page. Hopefully that won't break things badly. We're also working on a new bookshelf editor :) But you might want to instead figure out how to parse the XML/RDF file under Offline Catalogs. It is canonical, and includes all metadata (even download counts!). Thanks again. - Greg

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On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:06 PM Andrew Sly wrote:

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One thing that's good to be aware of, is that any "bookshelf" listing like that is reliant on having a volunteer manually add books to it. So there is no guarantee of the list being complete or up to date.

Some Bookshelfs may just be a list that one volunteer made once upon a time, and has not been updated since.

With that said, it's still a valuable thing to do, as long as we keep in mind the limitations of it.

--Andrew

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:32 AM Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> wrote:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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Joshua Preston

6:41 p.m.

I can see the issue now. The CLASSICS Bookshelf has only one Jane Austen book. I put a disclaimer at the top that 'bookshelves are curations' that may not include all available works. If there's a more comprehensive way to capture genres, I'd love to check it out. https://public.tableau.com/views/ProjectGutenberg-Classics/Dashboard12?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link:showVizHome=no On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 8:00 PM Joshua Preston wrote:

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Thx for the good info. Still learning the ropes:)

Is their a way to get a more definitive list? I plan to do more ‘genre’ focused graphics in the long term so I’m curious how that might work if bookshelves aren’t comprehensive. Thx Andrew.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:06 PM Andrew Sly wrote:

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One thing that's good to be aware of, is that any "bookshelf" listing like that is reliant on having a volunteer manually add books to it. So there is no guarantee of the list being complete or up to date.

Some Bookshelfs may just be a list that one volunteer made once upon a time, and has not been updated since.

With that said, it's still a valuable thing to do, as long as we keep in mind the limitations of it.

--Andrew

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:32 AM Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> wrote:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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Greg Newby

15 Jun 15 Jun

12:35 a.m.

On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:41:37PM -0400, Joshua Preston via socialmedia wrote:

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I can see the issue now. The CLASSICS Bookshelf has only one Jane Austen book. I put a disclaimer at the top that 'bookshelves are curations' that may not include all available works. If there's a more comprehensive way to capture genres, I'd love to check it out.

Did you see my earlier response, Joshua? The answer is Subject headings. - Greg

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https://public.tableau.com/views/ProjectGutenberg-Classics/Dashboard12?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link:showVizHome=no

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 8:00 PM Joshua Preston wrote:

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Thx for the good info. Still learning the ropes:)

Is their a way to get a more definitive list? I plan to do more ‘genre’ focused graphics in the long term so I’m curious how that might work if bookshelves aren’t comprehensive. Thx Andrew.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:06 PM Andrew Sly wrote:

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One thing that's good to be aware of, is that any "bookshelf" listing like that is reliant on having a volunteer manually add books to it. So there is no guarantee of the list being complete or up to date.

Some Bookshelfs may just be a list that one volunteer made once upon a time, and has not been updated since.

With that said, it's still a valuable thing to do, as long as we keep in mind the limitations of it.

--Andrew

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:32 AM Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> wrote:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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Laura N

16 Jun 16 Jun

10:51 a.m.

June 16th: today is Bloomsday. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bloomsday Laura Em seg., 15 de jun. de 2020 às 01:36, Greg Newby via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> escreveu:

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On Sun, Jun 14, 2020 at 02:41:37PM -0400, Joshua Preston via socialmedia wrote:

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I can see the issue now. The CLASSICS Bookshelf has only one Jane Austen book. I put a disclaimer at the top that 'bookshelves are curations' that may not include all available works. If there's a more comprehensive way to capture genres, I'd love to check it out.

Did you see my earlier response, Joshua?

The answer is Subject headings. - Greg

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https://public.tableau.com/views/ProjectGutenberg-Classics/Dashboard12?:display_count=y&:origin=viz_share_link:showVizHome=no

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On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 8:00 PM Joshua Preston wrote:

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Thx for the good info. Still learning the ropes:)

Is their a way to get a more definitive list? I plan to do more ‘genre’ focused graphics in the long term so I’m curious how that might work if bookshelves aren’t comprehensive. Thx Andrew.

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020 at 5:06 PM Andrew Sly

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One thing that's good to be aware of, is that any "bookshelf" listing like that is reliant on having a volunteer manually add books to it.

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there is no guarantee of the list being complete or up to date.

Some Bookshelfs may just be a list that one volunteer made once upon a time, and has not been updated since.

With that said, it's still a valuable thing to do, as long as we keep in mind the limitations of it.

--Andrew

On Sat, Jun 13, 2020, 9:32 AM Joshua Preston via socialmedia < socialmedia@lists.pglaf.org> wrote:

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A quick mockup, possible only through the awesome new format on dev.gutenberg.org

Thoughts?

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