Mike,

Thanks for raising the question. The answer will depend on
the charter discussion. Anybody is welcome to comment.

This is my personal view:

If you look for example the IETF Middlebox work, NATs
were part of the charter.

An answer may also depend on the outcome of the question
if this should be a Research Group or a Working Group.
A WG charter needs to be very focussed and
our Area Directors may prefer a limited the scope with
clearly defined deliverables. The scope may therefore be limited
to Firewalls. There is also a BoF that wants to look at VPN's.
A RG could pursue a wider range of middlebox services
such as mentioned in RFC 3303.

Kind regards .. Leon Gommans.

Mike 'Mike' Jones wrote:

Would it be useful to discuss NAT at the same time as firewalls?

I think NAT raises some issues that are similar to firewalls.  I'm coming
from an AFS in globus2 based grids perspective and have also seen clashes
between globus-IO and NAT.
 
I'm afraid I'm not able to goto Korea to stick my hand up and ask the
question there, sorry!

Cheers,
Mike

On Tue, 8 Mar 2005, Mike Helm wrote:

LG, can you put me on the agenda?  I'd like to mention
3 things (provided the material all shows up :^) that
might be of interest: some MPLS work at ESnet, a PNNL localhost-based
firewall solution that should be grid friendly, and
an interesting use-case from Fusion Grid (some have seen
this, at last GGF).

Thanks, ==mwh
Michael Helm
ESnet/LBNL