Re: [SAGA-RG] Fwd (replogle@ogf.org): [gf-chairs] OGF20 Group SessionScheduling is now open
All, In terms of vendor adoption, we will probably be asking all the WGs to try to keep track of the known major stakeholders and potential adopters for the standard being developed. We don't want to make a lot of work for anybody, but the active folks in each WG should know the best who these groups and people might be. This would really help a lot. Also, wrt language bindings, e.g., Java, it would really be good to get an idea which bindings the stakeholders and potential adopters really want. The idea of sending a SAGA Java binding through the JSR process is _very attractive_, but we want to make sure there is somebody to catch it when it comes out the other end ;-> Another thought that comes to mind is to make sure that people understand the distinction between Java SAGA and the Java CoG Kit, since that comparison will inevitably be made -- what are the advantages or disadvantages of one over the other? Certainly one is just an API while the other is Java glue-code for things like GridFTP, GRAM, and GSI -- but from an end-user's perspective, why choose one over the other? Could the SAGA API be implemented on top of CoG Kit? (Gregor: Do you have an opinion about all this?) --Craig At 04:44 AM 2/13/2007, Pascal Kleijer wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to put Language Bindings as one topic on the agenda. Of course we should split between Java and C, if other bindings pop-up in the mean time we could add them as well.
Another topic is the promotion process that SAGA will adopt and the different plans, schedules, workshop, etc for dissemination. This item if added, it should be clearly explained to Craig so that his Vendor adoption track has the necessary information as well.
Of course the SAGA 2.0 discussion will take its share as well. OK, that are the thinks on my head right now!
Best Regards, Pascal Kleijer
Hi Folx,
OGF-19 is just a couple of days in the past, up comes OGF-20! It is certain that session space will be tight in Manchester - so we need to decide/plan ahead very soon...
Lets gather agenda items for 10 days, then we should be able to apply for sessions by end of next week...
Cheers, Andre.
----- Forwarded message from Joel Replogle <replogle@ogf.org> -----
To: gf-chairs@ggf.org From: Joel Replogle <replogle@ogf.org> Subject: [gf-chairs] OGF20 Group Session Scheduling is now open
OGF Chairs -
Group Session Scheduling is now open for the next OGF event, OGF20! OGF20 will be held in the Manchester International Convention Center, Manchester UK from May 7-11, 2007.
To request a group session for your WG/RG/CG or a BoF session, please go to the following page for Group Session Requesting instructions and the link to the request form: http://www.ogf.org/OGF20/events_chairinfo.php
The scheduling deadlines are:
Session Requests: - Deadline for session requests for a CG, WG or RG is 16 March, 2007. - Deadline for AD Hoc/Charter Discussion BOFs is 16 March, 2007. Draft Documents: - Deadline for submitting working drafts is 6 April, 2007.
We anticipate that the schedule will be finalized by the end of March.
Thanks,
Joel
------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Open Grid Forum replogle@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org -- "So much time, so little to do..." -- Garfield -- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
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I will have to once more review the latest SAGA standard. Please, can someone send me the link to the PDF. On Feb 13, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Craig Lee wrote:
All,
In terms of vendor adoption, we will probably be asking all the WGs to try to keep track of the known major stakeholders and potential adopters for the standard being developed. We don't want to make a lot of work for anybody, but the active folks in each WG should know the best who these groups and people might be. This would really help a lot.
Also, wrt language bindings, e.g., Java, it would really be good to get an idea which bindings the stakeholders and potential adopters really want. The idea of sending a SAGA Java binding through the JSR process is _very attractive_, but we want to make sure there is somebody to catch it when it comes out the other end ;->
Another thought that comes to mind is to make sure that people understand the distinction between Java SAGA and the Java CoG Kit, since that comparison will inevitably be made -- what are the advantages or disadvantages of one over the other? Certainly one is just an API while the other is Java glue-code for things like GridFTP, GRAM, and GSI -- but from an end-user's perspective, why choose one over the other? Could the SAGA API be implemented on top of CoG Kit? (Gregor: Do you have an opinion about all this?)
--Craig
At 04:44 AM 2/13/2007, Pascal Kleijer wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to put Language Bindings as one topic on the agenda. Of course we should split between Java and C, if other bindings pop- up in the mean time we could add them as well.
Another topic is the promotion process that SAGA will adopt and the different plans, schedules, workshop, etc for dissemination. This item if added, it should be clearly explained to Craig so that his Vendor adoption track has the necessary information as well.
Of course the SAGA 2.0 discussion will take its share as well. OK, that are the thinks on my head right now!
Best Regards, Pascal Kleijer
Hi Folx,
OGF-19 is just a couple of days in the past, up comes OGF-20! It is certain that session space will be tight in Manchester - so we need to decide/plan ahead very soon...
Lets gather agenda items for 10 days, then we should be able to apply for sessions by end of next week...
Cheers, Andre.
----- Forwarded message from Joel Replogle <replogle@ogf.org> -----
To: gf-chairs@ggf.org From: Joel Replogle <replogle@ogf.org> Subject: [gf-chairs] OGF20 Group Session Scheduling is now open
OGF Chairs -
Group Session Scheduling is now open for the next OGF event, OGF20! OGF20 will be held in the Manchester International Convention Center, Manchester UK from May 7-11, 2007.
To request a group session for your WG/RG/CG or a BoF session, please go to the following page for Group Session Requesting instructions and the link to the request form: http://www.ogf.org/OGF20/events_chairinfo.php
The scheduling deadlines are:
Session Requests: - Deadline for session requests for a CG, WG or RG is 16 March, 2007. - Deadline for AD Hoc/Charter Discussion BOFs is 16 March, 2007. Draft Documents: - Deadline for submitting working drafts is 6 April, 2007.
We anticipate that the schedule will be finalized by the end of March.
Thanks,
Joel
------------------------------------------------------------------- ----- ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Open Grid Forum replogle@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org -- "So much time, so little to do..." -- Garfield -- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
k-pasukaru@ap.jp.nec.com -- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
-- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
Gregor von Laszewski, gregor@mcs.anl.gov Argonne National Laboratory, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne IL 60439
PS: I tried to open some of the documents on Gridforge, but they crash my browser. They seem to be PDF documents. Please can someone send me the direct links to the rhelevant documents, than I can comment on them. Tanks Gregor On Feb 13, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Gregor von Laszewski wrote:
I will have to once more review the latest SAGA standard. Please, can someone send me the link to the PDF.
On Feb 13, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Craig Lee wrote:
All,
In terms of vendor adoption, we will probably be asking all the WGs to try to keep track of the known major stakeholders and potential adopters for the standard being developed. We don't want to make a lot of work for anybody, but the active folks in each WG should know the best who these groups and people might be. This would really help a lot.
Also, wrt language bindings, e.g., Java, it would really be good to get an idea which bindings the stakeholders and potential adopters really want. The idea of sending a SAGA Java binding through the JSR process is _very attractive_, but we want to make sure there is somebody to catch it when it comes out the other end ;->
Another thought that comes to mind is to make sure that people understand the distinction between Java SAGA and the Java CoG Kit, since that comparison will inevitably be made -- what are the advantages or disadvantages of one over the other? Certainly one is just an API while the other is Java glue-code for things like GridFTP, GRAM, and GSI -- but from an end-user's perspective, why choose one over the other? Could the SAGA API be implemented on top of CoG Kit? (Gregor: Do you have an opinion about all this?)
--Craig
At 04:44 AM 2/13/2007, Pascal Kleijer wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to put Language Bindings as one topic on the agenda. Of course we should split between Java and C, if other bindings pop- up in the mean time we could add them as well.
Another topic is the promotion process that SAGA will adopt and the different plans, schedules, workshop, etc for dissemination. This item if added, it should be clearly explained to Craig so that his Vendor adoption track has the necessary information as well.
Of course the SAGA 2.0 discussion will take its share as well. OK, that are the thinks on my head right now!
Best Regards, Pascal Kleijer
Hi Folx,
OGF-19 is just a couple of days in the past, up comes OGF-20! It is certain that session space will be tight in Manchester - so we need to decide/plan ahead very soon...
Lets gather agenda items for 10 days, then we should be able to apply for sessions by end of next week...
Cheers, Andre.
----- Forwarded message from Joel Replogle <replogle@ogf.org> -----
To: gf-chairs@ggf.org From: Joel Replogle <replogle@ogf.org> Subject: [gf-chairs] OGF20 Group Session Scheduling is now open
OGF Chairs -
Group Session Scheduling is now open for the next OGF event, OGF20! OGF20 will be held in the Manchester International Convention Center, Manchester UK from May 7-11, 2007.
To request a group session for your WG/RG/CG or a BoF session, please go to the following page for Group Session Requesting instructions and the link to the request form: http://www.ogf.org/OGF20/events_chairinfo.php
The scheduling deadlines are:
Session Requests: - Deadline for session requests for a CG, WG or RG is 16 March, 2007. - Deadline for AD Hoc/Charter Discussion BOFs is 16 March, 2007. Draft Documents: - Deadline for submitting working drafts is 6 April, 2007.
We anticipate that the schedule will be finalized by the end of March.
Thanks,
Joel
------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Open Grid Forum replogle@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org -- "So much time, so little to do..." -- Garfield -- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
k-pasukaru@ap.jp.nec.com -- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
-- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
Gregor von Laszewski, gregor@mcs.anl.gov Argonne National Laboratory, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne IL 60439
Gregor von Laszewski, gregor@mcs.anl.gov Argonne National Laboratory, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne IL 60439
Hi, You can grab it directly here: http://www.ogf.org/Public_Comment_Docs/Documents/Oct-2006/saga-simpleapi-rec... Of course if you want the most up to date you need to get it from CVS. -- Pascal Gregor von Laszewski wrote:
PS: I tried to open some of the documents on Gridforge, but they crash my browser. They seem to be PDF documents.
Please can someone send me the direct links to the rhelevant documents, than I can comment on them.
Tanks
Gregor
On Feb 13, 2007, at 3:30 PM, Gregor von Laszewski wrote:
I will have to once more review the latest SAGA standard. Please, can someone send me the link to the PDF.
On Feb 13, 2007, at 1:54 PM, Craig Lee wrote:
All,
In terms of vendor adoption, we will probably be asking all the WGs to try to keep track of the known major stakeholders and potential adopters for the standard being developed. We don't want to make a lot of work for anybody, but the active folks in each WG should know the best who these groups and people might be. This would really help a lot.
Also, wrt language bindings, e.g., Java, it would really be good to get an idea which bindings the stakeholders and potential adopters really want. The idea of sending a SAGA Java binding through the JSR process is _very attractive_, but we want to make sure there is somebody to catch it when it comes out the other end ;->
Another thought that comes to mind is to make sure that people understand the distinction between Java SAGA and the Java CoG Kit, since that comparison will inevitably be made -- what are the advantages or disadvantages of one over the other? Certainly one is just an API while the other is Java glue-code for things like GridFTP, GRAM, and GSI -- but from an end-user's perspective, why choose one over the other? Could the SAGA API be implemented on top of CoG Kit? (Gregor: Do you have an opinion about all this?)
--Craig
At 04:44 AM 2/13/2007, Pascal Kleijer wrote:
Hi all,
I would like to put Language Bindings as one topic on the agenda. Of course we should split between Java and C, if other bindings pop- up in the mean time we could add them as well.
Another topic is the promotion process that SAGA will adopt and the different plans, schedules, workshop, etc for dissemination. This item if added, it should be clearly explained to Craig so that his Vendor adoption track has the necessary information as well.
Of course the SAGA 2.0 discussion will take its share as well. OK, that are the thinks on my head right now!
Best Regards, Pascal Kleijer
Hi Folx,
OGF-19 is just a couple of days in the past, up comes OGF-20! It is certain that session space will be tight in Manchester - so we need to decide/plan ahead very soon...
Lets gather agenda items for 10 days, then we should be able to apply for sessions by end of next week...
Cheers, Andre.
----- Forwarded message from Joel Replogle <replogle@ogf.org> -----
To: gf-chairs@ggf.org From: Joel Replogle <replogle@ogf.org> Subject: [gf-chairs] OGF20 Group Session Scheduling is now open
OGF Chairs -
Group Session Scheduling is now open for the next OGF event, OGF20! OGF20 will be held in the Manchester International Convention Center, Manchester UK from May 7-11, 2007.
To request a group session for your WG/RG/CG or a BoF session, please go to the following page for Group Session Requesting instructions and the link to the request form: http://www.ogf.org/OGF20/events_chairinfo.php
The scheduling deadlines are:
Session Requests: - Deadline for session requests for a CG, WG or RG is 16 March, 2007. - Deadline for AD Hoc/Charter Discussion BOFs is 16 March, 2007. Draft Documents: - Deadline for submitting working drafts is 6 April, 2007.
We anticipate that the schedule will be finalized by the end of March.
Thanks,
Joel
------------------------------------------------------------------ ------ ----------- Joel Replogle - Manager of Standards, Open Grid Forum replogle@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org -- "So much time, so little to do..." -- Garfield -- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
k-pasukaru@ap.jp.nec.com -- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg -- saga-rg mailing list saga-rg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/saga-rg
Gregor von Laszewski, gregor@mcs.anl.gov Argonne National Laboratory, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne IL 60439
Gregor von Laszewski, gregor@mcs.anl.gov Argonne National Laboratory, 9700 S. Cass Ave, Argonne IL 60439
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Craig Lee -
Gregor von Laszewski -
Pascal Kleijer