Hello SAGA developers, first of all: I am not taking part in developing SAGA, but I try to distribute GAT within the german D-Grid community project, and therefore I know about the SAGA efforts, and - as I feel - I also see some problems in the realisation... Okay, let's start with the problems of GAT. As GAT has started, it missed a lot of adaptors to the mostly ditributed grid middleware products. This is - at least in Germany - a fundamental reason for the very low acceptance of GAT in the Grid Community. As far as I know SAGA seems to inherit this deficiency of GAT. So Andre statet recently in a Email to me: "... we can definitively support only some adaptors, and we need the help of those projects, which have to develop AND SUPPORT adaptors to their middleware..." Please dont understand me wrong: I know about the small personel resources in the SAGA project, and that therefore only the development of a "SAGA Engine" and some local adaptors is possible. However, the missing of adaptors to Globus, Unicore or Condor etc.., is an urgent problem. The acceptance of software increases with its possibilities ot use it. If SAGA delivers now only an engine without a connection to any grid middleware, I would also not use SAGA to access e.g. Globus grdi functionality. Why should I develop an adaptor to my grid middleware (and even support it later on) for enabling the usage of SAGA; in such a case it's easier to develop directly against the middleware API. If I develop an adaptor, I'll have to possible regions where problems can arise: SAGA and the access to the middleware API. Developing diretyl against the middleware will only bring problems with the middleware API. I believe that such preconditions will not lead to a wide acceptance of SAGA! How to get rid of this problem? I like to suggest to deliver a SAGA toolkit. Beside the engine there also should be delivered a set of adaptors to the mostly distributed Grid middleware, as Globus, Unicore, Condor, etc... But how can this bed realised with the restricted resources? I have had the idea that the CCT should increase its support of the SAGA development, in Germany, there is no money available (at least right now). I don't know, if this is possible, but I'm quite shure that it must be a SAGA toolkit instead of a SAGA engine with local adaptors, if SAGA should be successful. I hope, you understand my words as a helpful comment. I want SAGA to be successful, and therefore we have to think about a SAGA toolkit. Cheers Alexander