Quoting [Thilo Kielmann] (Aug 04 2005):
2. there should be a "SAGA cookbook" MPI failed on this respect and good books came out only late, delaying the uptake of MPI significantly.
I would thus suggest that a SAGA cookbook gets written as soon as possible, maybe as part of the Wiki?
I think we should do that as soon as the API and the first implementation stabelizes somewhat - otherwise the maintainance effort is too high. But you are right, we should have that ready with the first releases... A.
My 2 cents,
Thilo
On Thu, Aug 04, 2005 at 08:57:16AM +0200, Andre Merzky wrote:
Well, the question is what do you want to do, really. Just submit a job, just copy a file, just replicate one, just open a stream... In itself the use cases are simple, if you take them all together its getting a large API.
Session handle and security are designed to have sensible default values - so you don't need to touch them. We should make that very clear. E.g., if there is a X509 proxy for your user id lying around, the default session handle (which you won't even see) should have a X509 context attached automatically.
Now, the qeustion really is: is it still too complex, or are we cleverly hiding the simplicity? :-D
I assume that I am somewhat blinkered due to my daily dose of SAGA - I think its blindingly simple, and we just need good examples (e.g. map API to our use cases) to make that obvious. I might be wrong though...?
Andre.
Quoting [Steven Newhouse] (Aug 03 2005):
Date: Wed, 03 Aug 2005 16:40:35 +0100 From: Steven Newhouse <sjn5@doc.ic.ac.uk> To: Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net> CC: Simple API for Grid Applications WG <saga-rg@ggf.org> Subject: Re: [saga-rg] Short Strawman versions
Is it merily confusing (== not simple) because its so much,
The basic entry point involves too many 'simple' interfaces. If I just want to submit a job, what do I want to deal with? The session (probably not) & security (probably yes) APIs?
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