Hi all, I would like to add the following session to the list of interest for OGF30: Monday, October 25 Time: 3:00 pm - 4:30 pm Room: Lillehammer Title: GRAAP-WG - Group Discussion Summary: Joint meeting with the SAGA Working Group better understand the use-cases for SLAs, how SLAs could be used in SAGA and to explore possible collaboration. That session has been requested by the GRAAP group, so please all who are interested in SLAs, come along! :-) As for our demo sessions: As you have likely seen in the list of sessions, there are actually *two* demo sessions planned with SAGA involvement: one is our own SAGA session 3 on Wednesday 3:30pm, the other one is the GIN session on Thursday 10:30 am. The main goal of the former session is indeed to focus on SAGA, and to demonstrate and discuss implementation efforts, backend coverage, synergy and divergence, etc. The focus of the GIN session is slightly different. First, the attending crowd will likely GIN and PGI people, so somewhat different than the 'usual suspects'. Which is a very good thing. Second, the goal of the session if to demonstrate to the GIN group that one can achieve application level interoperability, by using SAGA. Please allow me to expand on that one. The focus of the GIN group (Grid Operation Now) is to exchange experiences and profiles to allow interoperability of Grid environments, on *middleware* level. For example, GIN efforts ellow to submit jobs from gLite clients to Condor backends, etc, if the respective middleware is configured thus. Now, SAGA allows very similar things: to run applications on, say, gLite and Condor backends, w/o changin application logic, apoplication code, or submission mechanism. While our top-down approach certainly has shortcomings, it *is* an excellent complementary to the bottom-up effort of the GIN group. That is what we hope to discuss in that joint session, and what we also hope to demonstrate with our demos. So, if anybody feels like their planned SAGA demos are not only useful to the SAGA crowd, but could be equally interesting to the GON/PGI people, please come to that session, too, and show your demos a second time. For scheduling it would be great if you could send me a short notification, but showing up ad-hoc is certainly fine, too. Best, see you soon, Andre. Please note that I lost a bunch of emails over the last days/week - please repost if you feel like I need *even longer* than usual to answer a mail of yours - sorry for that! Quoting [Andre Merzky] (Oct 06 2010):
Date: Wed, 6 Oct 2010 23:21:42 +0200 From: Andre Merzky <andre@merzky.net> To: SAGA RG <saga-rg@ogf.org> Subject: [SAGA-RG] sessions at OGF-30
Hi all,
we have the following sessions scheduled for OGF30:
Wednesday, October 27
Session 1: Time: 11:00 am - 12:30 pm Title: SAGA - General Discussion Summary: State of the SAGA-nation, and open discussion Agenda: - agenda bashing for all SAGA sessions - intro - state of the SAGA-nation, open discussion - open discussion - document business
Session 2: Time: 1:30 pm - 3:00 pm Title: SAGA Interop Feast Summary: showcase SAGA based access to a variety of middlewares Agenda: - TBA
Session 3: Time: 3:30 pm - 5:00 pm Title: SAGA - Working Session Summary: SAGA WG session Agenda: - overspill from interop feast - discussion current work and future steps - EMI/PGI/GIN relations - relations to other OGF groups - discussion of public comments
Thursday, October 28
Session 4: Time: 10:30 am - 12:00 pm Title: Application level Grid Interoperation Now (A GIN) Summary: Synchronizing of the interop efforts in the GIN and SAGA groups. Joint group session Agenda: - TBA. - SAGA demonstrations for the GIN community - GIN demonstrations for the SAGA community - discussion
Please note that session 2 and 4 have some overlap in scope. Ideally, we see the same demos in both sessions (from the saga side at least), but in session 2 discuss them in respect to SAGA development and specification, and in session 4 try to find a common denominator with the GIN efforts.
Please let me know if that all makes sense, if you like to add items to the agendas, etc.
Best, Andre.