next teleconference: 16:00 (CET) Friday, 9th October

Dear All, The next call is scheduled according to our usual timetable: 16:00 CET, Friday 9th October Proposed agenda: Continue the discussion of the AGU strawman document which was started on last Friday (btw, Johannes please send out the meeting notes). In particular the CreateActivity and ChangeStatusActivity operations will be discussed. The later will pull in the statemodel as well. The document is available from the gridforge, v0.36 has just been uploaded which contains minor editorial fixes: AGU Strawman_rendering http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.pgi-wg/doc... Call details (the usual hidefconferencing facility): Friday, 9th October at 16:00 CET (duration: 1 hour) via Skype call +9900827049931906 (free of charge) ordinary phone numbers (local rates) with the 9931906 conference number: Austria 0820 401 15470 Belgium 0703 57 134 France 0826 109 071 Germany +49 (0) 180 500 9527 Switzerland 0848 560 397 regrds, Balazs -- Balázs Kónya NorduGrid Collaboration http://www.nordugrid.org Lund University balazs.konya@hep.lu.se High Energy Physics phone: +46 46 222 8049 BOX 118, S - 221 00 LUND, Sweden fax: +46 46 222 4015

Dear all, the meeting notes of the last Meeting on Friday, 2 Oct are available on GridForge. Best, Johannes Meeting on 2009-10-02, 16:00 (CET) Notes Participants: Balazs, Morris, Luigi, Etienne, Steve, Johannes Balazs: Rendering cod posted toPGI list several iterations meeting in summer to refine the doc (UNICORE, gLite, ARC) -> middle of summer updated doc Since August more detailed discussions new version from Etienne version 0.35 is far from ready document data model: no discussion has been taken place yet Morris: ask Etienne and Steve same time general questions: JSDL: are we going to have a new version of JSDL or a new JSDL 2.0 JSDL: ordinary data staging: SRM: two different level protocol SRB: try to nail down soon, next iteration simple thing regards JSDL change BES,JSDL a bit, PGI profile -> meet in the middle one approach Balazs: sample XML file uploaded to input documents port types information port type delegation prot type separation of different port types interoperation: return element of GLUE 2 information prot type GLUE2 interoperation Glue 2 getactivity operation in information port type? Morris: activity info, just subset of GLUE2 Balazs: query Morris: very simple way of getting info Etienne: not much experience using port types, does not see any problem Morris: fundamental: agreed to come from two sides: BES changes + PGI profile Balazs: BES2.0? Morris: will not go completely new way if people will know another BES things would change and they won't got the PGI direction example: people in industry are not interested how we do delegation BES moves a bit and we move a bit. PGI has to do a lot around data staging Will BES2.0 a PGI result? PGI group is better to come up with data staging & state model Balazs: PGI profile extends BES 2.0? Morris: JSDL execution service nailed down as PGI prfile make a profile on a profile delegation port type this group is part of the BES group. -> half of the BES interface is the PGI interface contribute in BES2.0 -> major contributors Balazs, Morris: Continue next week with creatactivity operation topics for next Friday: state model create and change activity status Morris: no session at OGF27 but Interoperability day Etienne: rename doc to make it clearer -- _ _ _ _ _ _ Johannes Watzl |\/| |\ | |\/| Institut für Informatik / Dept. of CS | | | \| | | Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München ======= TEAM ======= Oettingenstr. 67, 80538 Munich, Germany Room D0.5, Phone +49-89-2180-9162 Munich Network Management Team Email: watzl@nm.ifi.lmu.de Münchner Netz-Management Team http://www.nm.ifi.lmu.de/~watzl

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------Original Message----- -From: pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Johannes Watzl -Sent: Wednesday, October 07, 2009 7:24 PM -To: pgi-wg@ogf.org -Subject: [Pgi-wg] Meeting on 2009-10-02, 16:00 (CET) Notes - -Dear all, - -the meeting notes of the last Meeting on Friday, 2 Oct are available on -GridForge. - -Best, -Johannes - - - - -Meeting on 2009-10-02, 16:00 (CET) Notes - -Participants: -Balazs, Morris, Luigi, Etienne, Steve, Johannes - -Balazs: -Rendering cod posted toPGI list -several iterations -meeting in summer to refine the doc (UNICORE, gLite, ARC) --> middle of summer updated doc - -Since August more detailed discussions -new version from Etienne - -version 0.35 is far from ready document -data model: no discussion has been taken place yet - -Morris: -ask Etienne and Steve same time - - -general questions: -JSDL: -are we going to have a new version of JSDL or a new JSDL 2.0 -JSDL: ordinary - -data staging: -SRM: two different level protocol -SRB: try to nail down soon, next iteration -simple thing regards JSDL - -change BES,JSDL a bit, PGI profile -> meet in the middle -one approach - -Balazs: -sample XML file uploaded to input documents -port types -information port type -delegation prot type - -separation of different port types - -interoperation: -return element of GLUE 2 -information prot type GLUE2 -interoperation Glue 2 -getactivity operation in information port type? - -Morris: -activity info, just subset of GLUE2 -Balazs: -query -Morris: -very simple way of getting info -Etienne: -not much experience using port types, does not see any problem - -Morris: -fundamental: -agreed to come from two sides: -BES changes + PGI profile - -Balazs: -BES2.0? - -Morris: -will not go completely new way -if people will know another BES things would change and they won't got -the PGI direction - -example: -people in industry are not interested how we do delegation -BES moves a bit and we move a bit. - -PGI has to do a lot around data staging - -Will BES2.0 a PGI result? -PGI group is better to come up with data staging & state model - -Balazs: -PGI profile extends BES 2.0? - -Morris: -JSDL execution service nailed down as PGI prfile -make a profile on a profile delegation port type - -this group is part of the BES group. --> half of the BES interface is the PGI interface - -contribute in BES2.0 --> major contributors - -Balazs, Morris: -Continue next week with creatactivity operation - -topics for next Friday: -state model -create and change activity status - -Morris: -no session at OGF27 but Interoperability day - -Etienne: -rename doc to make it clearer - --- - _ _ _ _ _ _ Johannes Watzl - |\/| |\ | |\/| Institut für Informatik / Dept. of CS - | | | \| | | Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München - ======= TEAM ======= Oettingenstr. 67, 80538 Munich, Germany - Room D0.5, Phone +49-89-2180-9162 -Munich Network Management Team Email: watzl@nm.ifi.lmu.de -Münchner Netz-Management Team http://www.nm.ifi.lmu.de/~watzl -_______________________________________________ -Pgi-wg mailing list -Pgi-wg@ogf.org -http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg

hi, Balazs Konya wrote:
Dear All,
The next call is scheduled according to our usual timetable: 16:00 CET, Friday 9th October
I'd like to apologize because most probably i won't be able to participate Today's call due to another urgent assignment. bye, Balazs
participants (3)
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Balazs Konya
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Johannes Watzl
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Morris Riedel