It is being implemented by OMII-UK David On 20/05/2009 12:30, "Morris Riedel" <m.riedel@fz-juelich.de> wrote:
Hi team,
- David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep -extension" draft as it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily -different jobs (for the requirement of bulk job submission to the -execution service, which is a feature currently not supported).
FYI: I did an excerpt of this standard yesterday, I put it on gridforge for those that seek a short insight:
http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.pgi-wg/doc man.root.input_documents.execution_service/doc15635
So far, it looks like a reasonable good emerging standard lacking implementations I guess - but yet another JSDL extension... :-)
Take care, Morris
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------Original Message----- -From: Moreno Marzolla [mailto:moreno.marzolla@pd.infn.it] -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:52 AM -To: Morris Riedel -Cc: 'Balazs Konya'; 'Steven Newhouse'; pgi-wg@ogf.org -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document - -Morris Riedel wrote: -> Hi team, -> ->> and had not seen any comment to Andrew¹s document? -> ->> - I haven't seen any real comments to the GES rendering document either. -> -> Yeah that was my idea with the factsheet, which had the views of both -> documents merged - but this was ignored and now we have again our two -> fronts... - -We will *always* have the two front, but I'll give my views later during -the teleconference. -Anyway I should point out that during the last call there was no time -left to discuss anything else, which in my opinion was fine anyway -because we had the opportunity to understand the "GES realization via -existing specification" document quite well. - -By the way, I've not yet put formal minutes of the last meetings on the -wiki. From my recallings, here they are (please double check the list of -participants, I remember that there was at least another person from the -University of Virginia but I do not remember the name): - ----------- - -Teleconference on 2009-05-13, 04:00 CET - -Presents: - -- Andrew Grimshaw -- Aleksandr Konstantinov -- Moreno Marzolla -- Morris Riedel -- Etienne Urbah -- David Wallom - -Apologies: - -- Johannes Watzl - -Discussion: - -- Andrew illustrated in detail the document "GES realization via -existing specifications" http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15630?nav=1 -(version 1). - -- The discussion pinpointed some requirements (from the "Execution -Service Strawman" document "http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15590?nav=1 ) -which are not clear enough. In particular, the requirement of "support -for parallel jobs" should be clarified (e.g., state clearly what is -intended by "parallel job"). - -- David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep extension" draft as -it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily different jobs (for the -requirement of bulk job submission to the execution service, which is a -feature currently not supported). - ----------- - -Moreno. - --- -Moreno Marzolla -INFN Sezione di Padova, via Marzolo 8, 35131 PADOVA, Italy -EMail: moreno.marzolla@pd.infn.it Phone: +39 049 8277103 -WWW : http://www.dsi.unive.it/~marzolla Fax : +39 049 8756233
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------Original Message----- -From: David Wallom [mailto:david.wallom@oerc.ox.ac.uk] -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:38 PM -To: Morris Riedel; 'Moreno Marzolla' -Cc: Steven Newhouse; pgi-wg@ogf.org -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document - -It is being implemented by OMII-UK - -David - - -On 20/05/2009 12:30, "Morris Riedel" <m.riedel@fz-juelich.de> wrote: - -> Hi team, -> ->> - David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep ->> -extension" draft as it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily ->> -different jobs (for the requirement of bulk job submission to the ->> -execution service, which is a feature currently not supported). -> -> FYI: I did an excerpt of this standard yesterday, I put it on gridforge for -> those that seek a short insight: -> -> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.pgi-wg/doc -> man.root.input_documents.execution_service/doc15635 -> -> -> So far, it looks like a reasonable good emerging standard lacking -> implementations I guess - but yet another JSDL extension... :-) -> -> Take care, -> Morris -> -> -> -> ------------------------------------------------------------ -> Morris Riedel -> SW - Engineer -> Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division -> Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) -> Forschungszentrum Juelich -> Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 -> D - 52425 Juelich -> Germany -> -> Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de -> Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel -> Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 -> Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 -> -> Skype: MorrisRiedel -> -> "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" -> -> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich -> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 -> Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe -> Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), -> Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender) -> -> ->> ------Original Message----- ->> -From: Moreno Marzolla [mailto:moreno.marzolla@pd.infn.it] ->> -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:52 AM ->> -To: Morris Riedel ->> -Cc: 'Balazs Konya'; 'Steven Newhouse'; pgi-wg@ogf.org ->> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document ->> - ->> -Morris Riedel wrote: ->> -> Hi team, ->> -> ->> ->> and had not seen any comment to Andrew¹s document? ->> -> ->> ->> - I haven't seen any real comments to the GES rendering document -> either. ->> -> ->> -> Yeah that was my idea with the factsheet, which had the views of both ->> -> documents merged - but this was ignored and now we have again our two ->> -> fronts... ->> - ->> -We will *always* have the two front, but I'll give my views later during ->> -the teleconference. ->> -Anyway I should point out that during the last call there was no time ->> -left to discuss anything else, which in my opinion was fine anyway ->> -because we had the opportunity to understand the "GES realization via ->> -existing specification" document quite well. ->> - ->> -By the way, I've not yet put formal minutes of the last meetings on
->> -wiki. From my recallings, here they are (please double check the list of ->> -participants, I remember that there was at least another person from
..as part of Grid-SAM? ------------------------------------------------------------ Morris Riedel SW - Engineer Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Forschungszentrum Juelich Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 D - 52425 Juelich Germany Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 Skype: MorrisRiedel "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender) the the
->> -University of Virginia but I do not remember the name): ->> - ->> ----------- ->> - ->> -Teleconference on 2009-05-13, 04:00 CET ->> - ->> -Presents: ->> - ->> -- Andrew Grimshaw ->> -- Aleksandr Konstantinov ->> -- Moreno Marzolla ->> -- Morris Riedel ->> -- Etienne Urbah ->> -- David Wallom ->> - ->> -Apologies: ->> - ->> -- Johannes Watzl ->> - ->> -Discussion: ->> - ->> -- Andrew illustrated in detail the document "GES realization via ->> -existing specifications" http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15630?nav=1 ->> -(version 1). ->> - ->> -- The discussion pinpointed some requirements (from the "Execution ->> -Service Strawman" document "http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15590?nav=1 ) ->> -which are not clear enough. In particular, the requirement of "support ->> -for parallel jobs" should be clarified (e.g., state clearly what is ->> -intended by "parallel job"). ->> - ->> -- David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep extension" draft as ->> -it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily different jobs (for the ->> -requirement of bulk job submission to the execution service, which is a ->> -feature currently not supported). ->> - ->> ----------- ->> - ->> -Moreno. ->> - ->> --- ->> -Moreno Marzolla ->> -INFN Sezione di Padova, via Marzolo 8, 35131 PADOVA, Italy ->> -EMail: moreno.marzolla@pd.infn.it Phone: +39 049 8277103 ->> -WWW : http://www.dsi.unive.it/~marzolla Fax : +39 049 8756233 -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Pgi-wg mailing list -> Pgi-wg@ogf.org -> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg
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