Next teleconference: Wednesday, 5th August 2009
Dear all, The next PGI teleconference will be held on Wednesday, 5th August at 16:00 CET (duration: 1 hour) Call-in details as follow: via Skype call +9900827049931906 (free of charge) ordinary phone numbers (local rates) with the 9931906 conference number: Austria 0820 401 15470 Belgium 0703 57 134 France 0826 109 071 Germany +49 (0) 180 500 9527 Switzerland 0848 560 397 Agenda: 1) State model a) recent updates b) state model integration with the updated strawman rendering document (the announcement on the update of the rendering document http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15628 is copied below) 2) AOB a) changing the teleconferencing environment? b) PGI call schedule: Wednesdays or Fridays?, summer break? Feel free to propose additional topics for discussion. -----------------------
Hi PGI team,
some team members of the middlewares ARC, gLite, and UNICORE (AGU) found a bit time to update their input documents to the PGI process:
(1) To ensure an open process, we put the updated version into the PGI OGF space:
A) strawman_rendering (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15628?nav=1)
Note that the document has still some limitations such as: a) job state model is not fully integrated and thus contradicts to the rest of the rendering document since we also have some inputs for the discussion of it in the next weeks b) some formatting glitches: e.g. would be nice to have section headers, numbered, the table of content contain sections down to level 5. c) agreements only between ARC, gLite and UNICORE while a broader consensus with the other interested members of PGI is missing (i.e. GENESIS, EDGES) and to be discussed d) still some open questions that should be discussed in the broader PGI community
B) strawman_functionality (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15736?nav=1)
Note that this document only got a minor update.
C) agu_jsdl.xml (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15737?nav=1)
Focused on needed functionality - not existing JSDL with extensions.
(2) Since we don't want to interrupt the currently ongoing fruitful state model discussions, we expect to continue with them and would suggest that members of PGI collect feedback about these updated documents over the next weeks/vacation period.
Once the state model has been reasonable stable we can work on the feedback of the updated documents together and come to agreements between us all.
(3) Since we don't like an emerging specification that is not really implemented we are about to start a reference implementation of it that might be demonstrated at OGF or other conferences, including its changes following from the open discussion process among the broader PGI community.
With kind regards, Morris Riedel Balazs Konya Moreno Marzolla
bye, Balazs -- Balázs Kónya NorduGrid Collaboration http://www.nordugrid.org Lund University balazs.konya@hep.lu.se High Energy Physics phone: +46 46 222 8049 BOX 118, S - 221 00 LUND, Sweden fax: +46 46 222 4015
All, I cannot make the call tomorrow - I will be driving across the country. A
-----Original Message----- From: pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of Balazs Konya Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:18 AM To: pgi-wg@ogf.org Subject: [Pgi-wg] Next teleconference: Wednesday, 5th August 2009
Dear all,
The next PGI teleconference will be held on Wednesday, 5th August at 16:00 CET (duration: 1 hour)
Call-in details as follow: via Skype call +9900827049931906 (free of charge) ordinary phone numbers (local rates) with the 9931906 conference number:
Austria 0820 401 15470 Belgium 0703 57 134 France 0826 109 071 Germany +49 (0) 180 500 9527 Switzerland 0848 560 397
Agenda:
1) State model
a) recent updates
b) state model integration with the updated strawman rendering document (the announcement on the update of the rendering document http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15628 is copied below)
2) AOB
a) changing the teleconferencing environment?
b) PGI call schedule: Wednesdays or Fridays?, summer break?
Feel free to propose additional topics for discussion.
-----------------------
Hi PGI team,
some team members of the middlewares ARC, gLite, and UNICORE (AGU) found a bit time to update their input documents to the PGI process:
(1) To ensure an open process, we put the updated version into the PGI OGF space:
A) strawman_rendering (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15628?nav=1)
Note that the document has still some limitations such as: a) job state model is not fully integrated and thus contradicts to the rest of the rendering document since we also have some inputs for the discussion of it in the next weeks b) some formatting glitches: e.g. would be nice to have section headers, numbered, the table of content contain sections down to level 5. c) agreements only between ARC, gLite and UNICORE while a broader consensus with the other interested members of PGI is missing (i.e. GENESIS, EDGES) and to be discussed d) still some open questions that should be discussed in the broader PGI community
B) strawman_functionality (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15736?nav=1)
Note that this document only got a minor update.
C) agu_jsdl.xml (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15737?nav=1)
Focused on needed functionality - not existing JSDL with extensions.
(2) Since we don't want to interrupt the currently ongoing fruitful state model discussions, we expect to continue with them and would suggest that members of PGI collect feedback about these updated documents over the next weeks/vacation period.
Once the state model has been reasonable stable we can work on the feedback of the updated documents together and come to agreements between us all.
(3) Since we don't like an emerging specification that is not really implemented we are about to start a reference implementation of it that might be demonstrated at OGF or other conferences, including its changes following from the open discussion process among the broader PGI community.
With kind regards, Morris Riedel Balazs Konya Moreno Marzolla
bye, Balazs
-- Balázs Kónya
NorduGrid Collaboration http://www.nordugrid.org
Lund University balazs.konya@hep.lu.se High Energy Physics phone: +46 46 222 8049 BOX 118, S - 221 00 LUND, Sweden fax: +46 46 222 4015 _______________________________________________ Pgi-wg mailing list Pgi-wg@ogf.org http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg
Hi, I'm the bestman for a wedding and thus the next three days I'm unavailable and rather focus on a happy-compliant wedding. Take care, Morris ------------------------------------------------------------ Morris Riedel SW - Engineer Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Forschungszentrum Juelich Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 D - 52425 Juelich Germany Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 Skype: MorrisRiedel "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender)
------Original Message----- -From: pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On -Behalf Of Andrew Grimshaw -Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:27 PM -To: 'Balazs Konya'; pgi-wg@ogf.org -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Next teleconference: Wednesday, 5th August 2009 - -All, -I cannot make the call tomorrow - I will be driving across the country. -A - -> -----Original Message----- -> From: pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On -Behalf -> Of Balazs Konya -> Sent: Tuesday, August 04, 2009 4:18 AM -> To: pgi-wg@ogf.org -> Subject: [Pgi-wg] Next teleconference: Wednesday, 5th August 2009 -> -> -> Dear all, -> -> The next PGI teleconference will be held on Wednesday, 5th August -> at 16:00 CET (duration: 1 hour) -> -> Call-in details as follow: -> via Skype call +9900827049931906 (free of charge) ordinary phone -numbers -> (local rates) with the 9931906 conference number: -> -> Austria 0820 401 15470 -> Belgium 0703 57 134 -> France 0826 109 071 -> Germany +49 (0) 180 500 9527 -> Switzerland 0848 560 397 -> -> Agenda: -> -> 1) State model -> -> a) recent updates -> -> b) state model integration with the updated strawman rendering -> document -> (the announcement on the update of the rendering document -> http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15628 is copied below) -> -> -> 2) AOB -> -> a) changing the teleconferencing environment? -> -> b) PGI call schedule: Wednesdays or Fridays?, summer break? -> -> -> Feel free to propose additional topics for discussion. -> -> -> ----------------------- -> -> > Hi PGI team, -> > -> > some team members of the middlewares ARC, gLite, and UNICORE -(AGU) -> found a -> > bit time to update their input documents to the PGI process: -> > -> > (1) -> > To ensure an open process, we put the updated version into the PGI -OGF -> > space: -> > -> > A) strawman_rendering (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15628?nav=1) -> > -> > Note that the document has still some limitations such as: -> > a) job state model is not fully integrated and thus contradicts to the -> rest -> > of the rendering document since we also have some inputs for the -> discussion -> > of it in the next weeks -> > b) some formatting glitches: e.g. would be nice to have section -> headers, -> > numbered, the table of content contain sections down to level 5. -> > c) agreements only between ARC, gLite and UNICORE while a broader -> consensus -> > with the other interested members of PGI is missing (i.e. GENESIS, -> EDGES) -> > and to be discussed -> > d) still some open questions that should be discussed in the broader -> PGI -> > community -> > -> > B) strawman_functionality (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15736?nav=1) -> > -> > Note that this document only got a minor update. -> > -> > C) agu_jsdl.xml (http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15737?nav=1) -> > -> > Focused on needed functionality - not existing JSDL with extensions. -> > -> > (2) -> > Since we don't want to interrupt the currently ongoing fruitful state -> model -> > discussions, we expect to continue with them and would suggest that -> members -> > of PGI collect feedback about these updated documents over the next -> > weeks/vacation period. -> > -> > Once the state model has been reasonable stable we can work on the -> feedback -> > of the updated documents together and come to agreements between us -> all. -> > -> > -> > (3) -> > Since we don't like an emerging specification that is not really -> implemented -> > we are about to start a reference implementation of it that might be -> > demonstrated at OGF or other conferences, including its changes -> following -> > from the open discussion process among the broader PGI community. -> > -> > With kind regards, -> > Morris Riedel -> > Balazs Konya -> > Moreno Marzolla -> -> -> bye, -> Balazs -> -> -> -- -> Balázs Kónya -> -> NorduGrid Collaboration -> http://www.nordugrid.org -> -> Lund University balazs.konya@hep.lu.se -> High Energy Physics phone: +46 46 222 8049 -> BOX 118, S - 221 00 LUND, Sweden fax: +46 46 222 4015 -> _______________________________________________ -> Pgi-wg mailing list -> Pgi-wg@ogf.org -> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg - - -_______________________________________________ -Pgi-wg mailing list -Pgi-wg@ogf.org -http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg
Hi PGI team, a PGI teleconference will be held today at 16:00 CET (duration 1 hour). Call-in details as follow: Via Skype call +9900827049931906 (free of charge) Ordinary phone numbers (local rates) with the 9931906 conference number: Austria 0820 401 15470 Belgium 0703 57 134 France 0826 109 071 Germany +49 (0) 180 500 9527 Switzerland 0848 560 397 Proposed agenda: (1) Review minutes from last telcon. (2) OGF27: Who will be there? Should we have a session? If yes - what would be the goal having it? (3) Status of state model: why finished, implementation of a prototype for 'validation' of it? (4) Discuss further plans to move forward in PGI. Initial plan was to work on security in parallel to computation - as foreseen there are not enough right people to proceed like that. Another plan was to continue state model discussions and collect feedback for a min. of 3 weeks about the strawman - however point (4) seems to be on the agenda for today (according to last telcon). (5) Discuss Etienne's latest document on PGI execution service to see how that could be merged with the strawman functionality or rendering drafts. Document: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15735?nav=1 (6) AOB If there is any other item for discussion let me know. Take care, Morris ------------------------------------------------------------ Morris Riedel SW - Engineer Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Forschungszentrum Juelich Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 D - 52425 Juelich Germany Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 Skype: MorrisRiedel "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender)
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Andrew Grimshaw -
Balazs Konya -
Morris Riedel