PGI call 2010-07-15 notes
Dear all, please see below the notes from today's call. Best, Johannes participants: Etienne, Johannes, Stephen Crouch, Luigi, Mark, Oxana, Michael Saravo, Michaela, Emmanouil Agenda: (a) Discuss Use Cases and Use Case Template Luigi: uploaded the use case right now agreed to extend the deadlines by one week for collecting the comments on use cases: 22 July 2010 integrating the comments into the document: 29 July 2010 Use case template Johannes: proposition from Etienne to use another template Etienne: OGSA template is not good want to see the different roles in the use case template Mark: should go with the template we have agreed on Steve: Question to Mark: is it adequate? Mark: yes, have already used it for previous use cases Oxana: not too comfortable with the template also wants to see different actors agreement: go with the old template, collect comments for the use cases and integrate the comments (b) Discussion of the whole document process : Which documents should OGF PGI produce, in which order, in which time frame, ... Mark: Proposition start with three documents: 1) Glossary 2) Use cases 3) Requirements should act as a basis for other documents upcoming documents will be discussed later agreement on this process (c) Co-chair, Secretary positions Mark: no decision yet secretary position still open - no volunteers now - shift to offline discussion (d) AOB Etienne: we should try to find another telco system -- _ _ _ _ _ _ Johannes Watzl |\/| |\ | |\/| Institut für Informatik / Dept. of CS | | | \| | | Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München ======= TEAM ======= Oettingenstr. 67, 80538 Munich, Germany Room E 005, Phone +49-89-2180-9162 Munich Network Management Team Email: watzl@nm.ifi.lmu.de Münchner Netz-Management Team http://www.nm.ifi.lmu.de/~watzl
Just an add-on to the last point by Etienne: So far I was most satisfied with DFN: I experienced good soundquality without any noticeable breaks, I could read the chat and watch the screenshare all at the same time without having to install anything, it is OS independent. The list of all users seemed complete. Now I even bought an office microphone... I don't quite understand why it was classified as moderate by Morris. To me at least it looked like a rather good solution. I'll be on vacation next week so I unfortunately won't be able to join the next meeting to test another fancy telco system. ;-) Cheers, Michaela Johannes Watzl skrev:
Dear all,
please see below the notes from today's call.
Best, Johannes
participants: Etienne, Johannes, Stephen Crouch, Luigi, Mark, Oxana, Michael Saravo, Michaela, Emmanouil
Agenda:
(a) Discuss Use Cases and Use Case Template
Luigi: uploaded the use case right now
agreed to extend the deadlines by one week for
collecting the comments on use cases: 22 July 2010 integrating the comments into the document: 29 July 2010
Use case template Johannes: proposition from Etienne to use another template Etienne: OGSA template is not good want to see the different roles in the use case template
Mark: should go with the template we have agreed on
Steve: Question to Mark: is it adequate?
Mark: yes, have already used it for previous use cases
Oxana: not too comfortable with the template also wants to see different actors
agreement: go with the old template, collect comments for the use cases and integrate the comments
(b) Discussion of the whole document process : Which documents should OGF PGI produce, in which order, in which time frame, ...
Mark: Proposition start with three documents: 1) Glossary 2) Use cases 3) Requirements
should act as a basis for other documents upcoming documents will be discussed later
agreement on this process
(c) Co-chair, Secretary positions Mark: no decision yet secretary position still open - no volunteers now - shift to offline discussion
(d) AOB Etienne: we should try to find another telco system
-- Michaela Lechner EGI.eu Coordination of Interoperations between NGIs and with other Grids PDC Center for High Performance Computing CSC School of Computer Science and Communication KTH Royal Institute of Technology SE-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden Tel: +468-790 7891 SIP: caela@kth.se XMPP: caela@kth.se
Hi Michaela, for me the DFN system was also working without problems in different operating systems. For me DFN would be fine. Best, Johannes Am 15.07.2010 17:17, schrieb Michaela Lechner:
Just an add-on to the last point by Etienne: So far I was most satisfied with DFN: I experienced good soundquality without any noticeable breaks, I could read the chat and watch the screenshare all at the same time without having to install anything, it is OS independent. The list of all users seemed complete. Now I even bought an office microphone...
I don't quite understand why it was classified as moderate by Morris. To me at least it looked like a rather good solution. I'll be on vacation next week so I unfortunately won't be able to join the next meeting to test another fancy telco system. ;-)
Cheers, Michaela
Johannes Watzl skrev:
Dear all,
please see below the notes from today's call.
Best, Johannes
participants: Etienne, Johannes, Stephen Crouch, Luigi, Mark, Oxana, Michael Saravo, Michaela, Emmanouil
Agenda:
(a) Discuss Use Cases and Use Case Template
Luigi: uploaded the use case right now
agreed to extend the deadlines by one week for
collecting the comments on use cases: 22 July 2010 integrating the comments into the document: 29 July 2010
Use case template Johannes: proposition from Etienne to use another template Etienne: OGSA template is not good want to see the different roles in the use case template
Mark: should go with the template we have agreed on
Steve: Question to Mark: is it adequate?
Mark: yes, have already used it for previous use cases
Oxana: not too comfortable with the template also wants to see different actors
agreement: go with the old template, collect comments for the use cases and integrate the comments
(b) Discussion of the whole document process : Which documents should OGF PGI produce, in which order, in which time frame, ...
Mark: Proposition start with three documents: 1) Glossary 2) Use cases 3) Requirements
should act as a basis for other documents upcoming documents will be discussed later
agreement on this process
(c) Co-chair, Secretary positions Mark: no decision yet secretary position still open - no volunteers now - shift to offline discussion
(d) AOB Etienne: we should try to find another telco system
-- _ _ _ _ _ _ Johannes Watzl |\/| |\ | |\/| Institut für Informatik / Dept. of CS | | | \| | | Ludwig-Maximilians-Universität München ======= TEAM ======= Oettingenstr. 67, 80538 Munich, Germany Room E 005, Phone +49-89-2180-9162 Munich Network Management Team Email: watzl@nm.ifi.lmu.de Münchner Netz-Management Team http://www.nm.ifi.lmu.de/~watzl
Johannes and Michaela, GoToMeeting voice sharing had bad quality, and User interface is poor. I fully agree with Michaela : DFN has acceptable sound quality and good user interface. Therefore, I propose to revert to DFN. Best regards. ----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr ----------------------------------------------------- On Thu, 15/07/2010 17:32, Johannes Watzl wrote:
Hi Michaela,
for me the DFN system was also working without problems in different operating systems. For me DFN would be fine.
Best, Johannes
Am 15.07.2010 17:17, schrieb Michaela Lechner:
Just an add-on to the last point by Etienne: So far I was most satisfied with DFN: I experienced good soundquality without any noticeable breaks, I could read the chat and watch the screenshare all at the same time without having to install anything, it is OS independent. The list of all users seemed complete. Now I even bought an office microphone...
I don't quite understand why it was classified as moderate by Morris. To me at least it looked like a rather good solution. I'll be on vacation next week so I unfortunately won't be able to join the next meeting to test another fancy telco system. ;-)
Cheers, Michaela
Hi,
-- I don't quite understand why it was classified as moderate by Morris.
In fact some members stated in the past that they have 'moderate' problems with it, but reading the e-mail thread it seems like DFN is better than I stated. I see no problem then in continuing with the DFN system. Thanks for the feedback! Take care, Morris
-- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- -- Von: pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] Im Auftrag von -- Michaela Lechner -- Gesendet: Donnerstag, 15. Juli 2010 17:17 -- Cc: pgi-wg@ogf.org -- Betreff: Re: [Pgi-wg] PGI call 2010-07-15 notes -- -- Just an add-on to the last point by Etienne: -- So far I was most satisfied with DFN: I experienced good soundquality -- without any noticeable breaks, I could read the chat and watch the -- screenshare all at the same time without having to install anything, it -- is OS independent. The list of all users seemed complete. Now I even -- bought an office microphone... -- -- I don't quite understand why it was classified as moderate by Morris. To -- me at least it looked like a rather good solution. -- I'll be on vacation next week so I unfortunately won't be able to join -- the next meeting to test another fancy telco system. ;-) -- -- Cheers, -- Michaela -- -- Johannes Watzl skrev: -- > Dear all, -- > -- > please see below the notes from today's call. -- > -- > Best, -- > Johannes -- > -- > -- > participants: -- > Etienne, Johannes, Stephen Crouch, Luigi, Mark, Oxana, Michael Saravo, -- > Michaela, Emmanouil -- > -- > Agenda: -- > -- > (a) Discuss Use Cases and Use Case Template -- > -- > Luigi: uploaded the use case right now -- > -- > agreed to extend the deadlines by one week for -- > -- > collecting the comments on use cases: 22 July 2010 -- > integrating the comments into the document: 29 July 2010 -- > -- > Use case template -- > Johannes: -- > proposition from Etienne to use another template -- > Etienne: -- > OGSA template is not good -- > want to see the different roles in the use case template -- > -- > Mark: -- > should go with the template we have agreed on -- > -- > Steve: -- > Question to Mark: is it adequate? -- > -- > Mark: -- > yes, have already used it for previous use cases -- > -- > Oxana: -- > not too comfortable with the template -- > also wants to see different actors -- > -- > -- > agreement: -- > go with the old template, collect comments for the use cases and -- > integrate the comments -- > -- > -- > (b) Discussion of the whole document process : Which documents should -- > OGF PGI produce, in which order, in which time frame, ... -- > -- > Mark: -- > Proposition -- > start with three documents: -- > 1) Glossary -- > 2) Use cases -- > 3) Requirements -- > -- > should act as a basis for other documents -- > upcoming documents will be discussed later -- > -- > agreement on this process -- > -- > (c) Co-chair, Secretary positions -- > Mark: no decision yet -- > secretary position still open - no volunteers now - shift to offline -- > discussion -- > -- > (d) AOB -- > Etienne: -- > we should try to find another telco system -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- > -- -- -- -- -- Michaela Lechner -- EGI.eu Coordination of Interoperations between NGIs and with other Grids -- PDC Center for High Performance Computing -- CSC School of Computer Science and Communication -- KTH Royal Institute of Technology -- SE-100 44 Stockholm, Sweden -- -- Tel: +468-790 7891 -- SIP: caela@kth.se -- XMPP: caela@kth.se -- -- _______________________________________________ -- Pgi-wg mailing list -- Pgi-wg@ogf.org -- http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg
participants (4)
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Etienne URBAH -
Johannes Watzl -
Michaela Lechner -
Morris Riedel