------Original Message----- -From: pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of -Aleksandr Konstantinov -Sent: Friday, March 20, 2009 12:27 AM -To: pgi-wg@ogf.org -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Documenting the security agreement/info progress - - Jist my 2 cents. Factsheet idea is really nice. But there must be one editor of that -factsheet. Exactly because otherwise it turns into wiki. - Word documents are inconvenient to handle and do not permit multple simultaneous -editing. Of course if there is single editor per document or document is somehow -locked -in repository then word is alright. But one still need to load whole document and scan -through it to find changes. - -A.K. - - -On Thursday 19 March 2009 15:45, Duane Merrill wrote: -> The "track-changes" and "insert comments" feature for MS Word documents has -> come in very handy in other OGF working groups. The "insert comments" -> feature is particularly useful for allowing discussions on particular -> aspects to flow on with perfect contextual reference. -> -> 2009/3/19 Morris Riedel <m.riedel@fz-juelich.de> -> -> > Hi PGI security folks, -> > -> > I'm thinking how we can document progress in agreements in terms of -> > security. Just let the flow of e-mails run us out of time is not a good -> > idea... -> > -> > -> > Also, the strawmen document is nice but it is a Formula 1 racecar (or US: -> > Indy500 car) compared to a bicycle, which is more needed by PGI in the -> > moment to agree on important 'forward-bringing elements' before
-> > it -> > precisely to realize a common view on a racecar. -> > -> > -> > As I said earlier - our common agreement (not only in security) is crucial -> > - -> > rushing a profile out is not collaborative enough and had nearly crushed -> > the -> > group instead of getting us out of the security hole mentioned by Steven -> > earlier. In slightly other words - it's the process - not the documentation -> > alone, especially in collaborative efforts. -> > -> > -> > So - I hesitate to again come up with a big document during the agreement -> > process and rather prefer a condensed WIKI page. -> > -> > -> > But also this page implies changes by numerous folks making again -> > unreviewable without having any 'place constraints' especially having not -> > really a good track changes option! -> > -> > -> > My current idea is around so-called factsheets that are only two-page word -> > documents for each security topic making it condensed and allowing the -> > valuable track changes functionality including one picture per topic
-> > represents our common agreement aligned with some text that later lays
-> > foundation for our 'one' document mentioned in the charter. -> > -> > -> > I just want to hear your opinions on this before I start working on
Hi security folks, yes - so I try to create initial factsheets for each threads once I see agreements. Those agreements will be put on the factsheets then circulated for another review before working on a specification. Take care, Morris P.S. In order that I am not becoming a bottleneck - I talk with Johannes to help me with this process! CIAO! ------------------------------------------------------------ Morris Riedel SW - Engineer Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Forschungszentrum Juelich Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 D - 52425 Juelich Germany Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 Skype: MorrisRiedel "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender) profiling that the them -
-> > it makes no sense if you disagree. -> > -> > I'm also happy to hear better suggestions. -> > -> > -> > Thanks for sharing your views on this, -> > Morris -> > -> > ------------------------------------------------------------ -> > Morris Riedel -> > SW - Engineer -> > Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division -> > Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) -> > Forschungszentrum Juelich -> > Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 -> > D - 52425 Juelich -> > Germany -> > -> > Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de -> > Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel -> > Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 -> > Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 -> > -> > Skype: MorrisRiedel -> > -> > "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" -> > -> > Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich -> > Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 -> > Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe -> > Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), -> > Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender) -> > -> > -> > -> > _______________________________________________ -> > Pgi-wg mailing list -> > Pgi-wg@ogf.org -> > http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg -> > -> > -> -_______________________________________________ -Pgi-wg mailing list -Pgi-wg@ogf.org -http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg