Dear Etienne, With your long list of "to-be-profiled" specifications that you collected from Andrew's proposal you made a very important point: The "composability" and "profilability" of these specs are not trivial at all. We saw that an entire OGF WG had to be set up just to synchronize the BES/JSDL (the HPC-BP group). And that process was slow and painful. Now we are talking about the extension/re-engineering of BES/JSDL AND the profiling of the new BES-1.2 JSDL-1.2 specs together with GLUE2 AND trying to make all these stuff satisfy the complex requirements around data staging. Plus add the other specs i did not mention here but you put into your list. The other alternative is to go for a clean spec. bye, Balazs Konya Etienne URBAH wrote:
Andrew,
Concerning the PGI Execution Service :
Thank you very much for your 'GES Realization via Existing Specifications.doc' proposal, which targets 'as small a specification as possible and attempt to use existing specifications and mechanisms when it makes sense.'
In order for your document to be really useful, we all have to carefully check if all 'existing specifications and mechanisms' referred by your document are : - compatible between each other, - really implementable, - at an affordable cost.
In order to ease this checks, I propose below links for the 'existing specifications and mechanisms referred by your document', and I ask you to : - verify if my links are accurate, - provide the accurate links inside the next version of your document.
WS-Addressing : http://www.w3.org/Submission/2004/SUBM-ws-addressing-20040810/
WS-Naming : http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.109.pdf
OGSA-WSRF-BSP : http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.138.pdf TO BE VERIFIED
JSDL : http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.136.pdf
OGSA-BES : ATTENTION, you are NOT referring to recommendation GDF.108, but on 17 April 2009, you sent us DRAFT v32 'ogsa-bes-v32.doc', and you are now referring to DRAFT v27, which has NO link inside http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/listDocuments/projects.ogsa-bes-wg/d...
Could we use DRAFT v38, which is Version 3 at http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/go/doc15062?nav=1 ?
HPC-BP : http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.114.pdf
HPC-BP FSE : http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.135.pdf
RNS : http://www.ogf.org/documents/GFD.101.pdf
Thank you in advance.
Best regards.
----------------------------------------------------- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr -----------------------------------------------------
On Tue, 12 May 2009, Andrew Grimshaw wrote:
Colleagues,
Last week I promised to deliver a document for discussion tomorrow on how to use existing specification (and profiles on those specifications) to realize the requirements in the April 29 draft GES info document. Attached is a word file that sketches out the solution. The document is not intended to be published – it is to organize a discussion and give you insight into my proposed solution to the requirements.
I have also carefully read the GES document and have a number of comments on that as well. I will be sending it later today or tomorrow. My comments on the GES are not necessary to understand the “realization” document. I also encourage you to read the ISV primer.
Andrew
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