Hey PGI team, we are running in the pro/contra discussions again and again as it looks like... consuming our valuable time fosterings positions w/o clear understanding of the bigger picture. I suggest we clearly collect all statements related to pro/contra new / old specs inside the following wiki page tables: http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/wiki/do/viewPage/projects.pgi-wg/wiki/GES?_mes sage=1242216401105 Let's try to collect all statements and positions and have an objective whole view on all of them together by filling out this page. I hope this also supports the telcon so thanks for adding your views to the tables. Your co-chair, Morris ------------------------------------------------------------ Morris Riedel SW - Engineer Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Forschungszentrum Juelich Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 D - 52425 Juelich Germany Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 Skype: MorrisRiedel "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender)
------Original Message----- -From: pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of -Andrew Grimshaw -Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 1:48 PM -To: 'Steven Newhouse'; 'Etienne Urbah'; 'Andrew GRIMSHAW' -Cc: pgi-wg@ogf.org; edges-na3@mail.edges-grid.eu; lodygens@lal.in2p3.fr -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization viaexistingspecifications - -All, -The standard is the standard. - -That said what I was trying to point out was - 1) That with minor updates to the BES spec, say to a 1.1 version we -could accommodate many of the requirements in the GES document - 2) That in fact the authors of the BES anticipated many of these -same issues but that they were weeded out. - -As another note since it was perhaps not clear. I was NOT suggesting that -sub-states become part of a new BES 1.1 specification - that "pending" -perhaps should, and that we PROFILE the substates. - -Talk to you all in 130 minutes. - -A - -> -----Original Message----- -> From: Steven Newhouse [mailto:Steven.Newhouse@cern.ch] -> Sent: Wednesday, May 13, 2009 7:08 AM -> To: Etienne Urbah; Andrew GRIMSHAW -> Cc: pgi-wg@ogf.org; edges-na3@mail.edges-grid.eu; lodygens@lal.in2p3.fr -> Subject: RE: [Pgi-wg] PGI Execution Service - Realization via -> existingspecifications -> -> -> > - For BES, official recommendation GDF.108 does NOT contain the -> > 'Running:Stage-in' and 'Running:Stage-out' states. -> > -> > So we have to decide which basis we take for BES : -> > -> > - Either OFFICIAL recommendation GDF.108, which I suppose is the -> > one for which you mention existing implementations. -> -> This should be the basis for any further work. Andrew circulated earlier -> versions just to show you relevant functions that were discussed that -> did not make it into the final version. -> -> Steven - - -_______________________________________________ -Pgi-wg mailing list -Pgi-wg@ogf.org -http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg