Hi PGI security folks, I'm thinking how we can document progress in agreements in terms of security. Just let the flow of e-mails run us out of time is not a good idea... Also, the strawmen document is nice but it is a Formula 1 racecar (or US: Indy500 car) compared to a bicycle, which is more needed by PGI in the moment to agree on important 'forward-bringing elements' before profiling it precisely to realize a common view on a racecar. As I said earlier - our common agreement (not only in security) is crucial - rushing a profile out is not collaborative enough and had nearly crushed the group instead of getting us out of the security hole mentioned by Steven earlier. In slightly other words - it's the process - not the documentation alone, especially in collaborative efforts. So - I hesitate to again come up with a big document during the agreement process and rather prefer a condensed WIKI page. But also this page implies changes by numerous folks making again unreviewable without having any 'place constraints' especially having not really a good track changes option! My current idea is around so-called factsheets that are only two-page word documents for each security topic making it condensed and allowing the valuable track changes functionality including one picture per topic that represents our common agreement aligned with some text that later lays the foundation for our 'one' document mentioned in the charter. I just want to hear your opinions on this before I start working on them - it makes no sense if you disagree. I'm also happy to hear better suggestions. Thanks for sharing your views on this, Morris ------------------------------------------------------------ Morris Riedel SW - Engineer Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Forschungszentrum Juelich Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 D - 52425 Juelich Germany Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 Skype: MorrisRiedel "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender)