Hi Etienne, thanks for your comments. We can discuss a few of them briefly tomorrow before we jump into the job descriptions. Take care, Morris
-- -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- -- Von: Etienne URBAH [mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr] -- Gesendet: Mittwoch, 6. Oktober 2010 20:33 -- An: Riedel, Morris; Johannes WATZL; pgi-wg@ogf.org -- Cc: lodygens@lal.in2p3.fr; edgi-na2@mail.edgi-project.eu -- Betreff: Re: [Pgi-wg] PGI Use Case Document: FINAL CALL for Group Comments -- -- Morris, Johannes and all, -- -- I am not certain that the SourceForge Engine has sent following -- information to any other PGI member than myself, so I am sending it -- directly : -- -- -- I have submitted following review on the PGI Use Case Document, with -- 'PGI-Use-Cases-Review-Etienne.doc' available at -- http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/sfmain/do/downloadAttachment/projects.pgi- -- wg/docman.root.drafts.use_cases/doc16066/docr1214?id=atch4959 -- : -- -- Congratulation to Morris and Johannes for having achieved to collect -- these Use Cases on Distributed Data Processing (Grids). -- -- Concerning the Use Cases presented by EDGI (chapters 5, 6 and 7), I have -- directly : -- - added, inside 'Use Case Situation Analysis', the list of relevant -- official or de facto standards. -- - made cosmetic formatting changes. -- -- For the other chapters, I have inserted comments were needed. The most -- important ones are : -- -- - What are the software skills of users : Developers of the -- application which they use; Advanced users of the application; Users -- of a scientific grid portal or a workflow engine to launch something -- they do NOT know at all, but which should give them back useful -- scientific results; … ? -- -- - Please provide the detailed sequence of interactions between the -- users and the Grid infrastructure. Preconditions, triggers and -- postconditions are also useful. -- -- - Which parts of the scheduling are performed by the user, and which -- parts are performed by the Grid middleware (matching user requirements -- with resource capabilities) ? -- -- - Please provide precise description of resources which are the -- boundaries of the Grid infrastructure(s), and whose interfaces are used -- by the Use Case. -- -- - Is this really a requirement on Grid middleware, or rather a -- requirement on the Workflow engine ? -- -- I have also updated the properties of the MS-Word document. -- -- -- To view the submitted review, visit http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/docr1214 -- -- -- Best regards. -- -- ----------------------------------------------------- -- Etienne URBAH LAL, Univ Paris-Sud, IN2P3/CNRS -- Bat 200 91898 ORSAY France -- Tel: +33 1 64 46 84 87 Skype: etienne.urbah -- Mob: +33 6 22 30 53 27 mailto:urbah@lal.in2p3.fr -- ----------------------------------------------------- -- -- -- On Mon, 04/10/2010 23:42, Morris Riedel wrote: -- > Dear PGI team, -- > -- > the latest-greatest use case document (13 use cases, 43 pages) can be found in GridForge: -- > http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.pgi-wg/doc... -- > -- > If you have final comments please let me have them by Wednesday, -- > 2010-10-06 (end of the day). -- > -- > We already have given group members a long time to comment on the -- > use cases via our review process, telcons or via the mailing list, -- > so I don't expect any major changes. -- > -- > If any comments are minor (e.g. typos, formatting, minor wordsmithing) -- > I'll incorporate them and submit the document to the OGF editor on -- > Thursday morning. -- > -- > If I receive more serious comments I'll discuss with Johannes to -- > schedule time in our telcon this week, at which we'll agree either -- > to address them before publication or to create trackers/todo's and -- > defer them to a next version of the use case document. -- > -- > -- > Finally, I would like to thank the members of the PGI working group -- > for their great work in contributing with their use cases. -- > -- > -- > Your co-chair, -- > Morris -- > -- > ------------------------------------------------------------ -- > Morris Riedel -- > Deputy Division Leader -- > Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division -- > -- > Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) -- > Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel