-It is being implemented by OMII-UK
------Original Message----- -From: pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org [mailto:pgi-wg-bounces@ogf.org] On Behalf Of -Steve Crouch -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:58 PM -To: pgi-wg@ogf.org -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document - -Hi, - -OMII-UK's intent is to support this within GridSAM. As of today, we -haven't commissioned anybody or committed our own effort, but we're -currently looking into ways we could support this work. - -Cheers -Steve Crouch - --- -Dr Stephen Crouch, -Software Architect, -OMII-UK, -Electronics and Computer Science, -Room 4067, Level 4, Building 32, -University of Southampton, -Highfield, Southampton SO17 1BJ -Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 8787 EMail: s.crouch@omii.ac.uk -Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 3045 WWW: http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~stc - -Morris Riedel wrote: -> ..as part of Grid-SAM? -> -> ------------------------------------------------------------ -> Morris Riedel -> SW - Engineer -> Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division -> Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) -> Forschungszentrum Juelich -> Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 -> D - 52425 Juelich -> Germany -> -> Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de -> Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel -> Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 -> Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 -> -> Skype: MorrisRiedel -> -> "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" -> -> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich -> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 -> Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe -> Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), -> Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender) -> -> ->> ------Original Message----- ->> -From: David Wallom [mailto:david.wallom@oerc.ox.ac.uk] ->> -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 3:38 PM ->> -To: Morris Riedel; 'Moreno Marzolla' ->> -Cc: Steven Newhouse; pgi-wg@ogf.org ->> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document ->> - ->> -It is being implemented by OMII-UK ->> - ->> -David ->> - ->> - ->> -On 20/05/2009 12:30, "Morris Riedel" <m.riedel@fz-juelich.de> wrote: ->> - ->> -> Hi team, ->> -> ->> ->> - David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep ->> ->> -extension" draft as it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily ->> ->> -different jobs (for the requirement of bulk job submission to the ->> ->> -execution service, which is a feature currently not supported). ->> -> ->> -> FYI: I did an excerpt of this standard yesterday, I put it on gridforge -> for ->> -> those that seek a short insight: ->> -> ->> -> -> http://forge.gridforum.org/sf/docman/do/downloadDocument/projects.pgi-wg/doc ->> -> man.root.input_documents.execution_service/doc15635 ->> -> ->> -> ->> -> So far, it looks like a reasonable good emerging standard lacking ->> -> implementations I guess - but yet another JSDL extension... :-) ->> -> ->> -> Take care, ->> -> Morris ->> -> ->> -> ->> -> ->> -> ------------------------------------------------------------ ->> -> Morris Riedel ->> -> SW - Engineer ->> -> Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division ->> -> Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) ->> -> Forschungszentrum Juelich ->> -> Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 ->> -> D - 52425 Juelich ->> -> Germany ->> -> ->> -> Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de ->> -> Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel ->> -> Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 ->> -> Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 ->> -> ->> -> Skype: MorrisRiedel ->> -> ->> -> "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" ->> -> ->> -> Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich ->> -> Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 ->> -> Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe ->> -> Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), ->> -> Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender) ->> -> ->> -> ->> ->> ------Original Message----- ->> ->> -From: Moreno Marzolla [mailto:moreno.marzolla@pd.infn.it] ->> ->> -Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 11:52 AM ->> ->> -To: Morris Riedel ->> ->> -Cc: 'Balazs Konya'; 'Steven Newhouse'; pgi-wg@ogf.org ->> ->> -Subject: Re: [Pgi-wg] Promised document ->> ->> - ->> ->> -Morris Riedel wrote: ->> ->> -> Hi team, ->> ->> -> ->> ->> ->> and had not seen any comment to Andrew¹s document? ->> ->> -> ->> ->> ->> - I haven't seen any real comments to the GES rendering document ->> -> either. ->> ->> -> ->> ->> -> Yeah that was my idea with the factsheet, which had the views of -> both ->> ->> -> documents merged - but this was ignored and now we have again our -> two ->> ->> -> fronts... ->> ->> - ->> ->> -We will *always* have the two front, but I'll give my views later -> during ->> ->> -the teleconference. ->> ->> -Anyway I should point out that during the last call there was no time ->> ->> -left to discuss anything else, which in my opinion was fine anyway ->> ->> -because we had the opportunity to understand the "GES realization via ->> ->> -existing specification" document quite well. ->> ->> - ->> ->> -By the way, I've not yet put formal minutes of the last meetings on -> the ->> ->> -wiki. From my recallings, here they are (please double check the
-> of ->> ->> -participants, I remember that there was at least another person from -> the ->> ->> -University of Virginia but I do not remember the name): ->> ->> - ->> ->> ----------- ->> ->> - ->> ->> -Teleconference on 2009-05-13, 04:00 CET ->> ->> - ->> ->> -Presents: ->> ->> - ->> ->> -- Andrew Grimshaw ->> ->> -- Aleksandr Konstantinov ->> ->> -- Moreno Marzolla ->> ->> -- Morris Riedel ->> ->> -- Etienne Urbah ->> ->> -- David Wallom ->> ->> - ->> ->> -Apologies: ->> ->> - ->> ->> -- Johannes Watzl ->> ->> - ->> ->> -Discussion: ->> ->> - ->> ->> -- Andrew illustrated in detail the document "GES realization via ->> ->> -existing specifications" http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15630?nav=1 ->> ->> -(version 1). ->> ->> - ->> ->> -- The discussion pinpointed some requirements (from the "Execution ->> ->> -Service Strawman" document "http://forge.ogf.org/sf/go/doc15590?nav=1 -> ) ->> ->> -which are not clear enough. In particular, the requirement of "support ->> ->> -for parallel jobs" should be clarified (e.g., state clearly what is ->> ->> -intended by "parallel job"). ->> ->> - ->> ->> -- David suggested to check the "JSDL parameter sweep extension" draft -> as ->> ->> -it could allow describing a set of arbitrarily different jobs (for
...what leads to "It is planned for being implemented by OMII-UK" .. I already circulated the spec around here to see whether some UNICORE folks are keen going for it... ;-) Thanks for the info Steve, Morris ------------------------------------------------------------ Morris Riedel SW - Engineer Distributed Systems and Grid Computing Division Jülich Supercomputing Centre (JSC) Forschungszentrum Juelich Wilhelm-Johnen-Str. 1 D - 52425 Juelich Germany Email: m.riedel@fz-juelich.de Info: http://www.fz-juelich.de/jsc/JSCPeople/riedel Phone: +49 2461 61 - 3651 Fax: +49 2461 61 - 6656 Skype: MorrisRiedel "We work to better ourselves, and the rest of humanity" Sitz der Gesellschaft: Jülich Eingetragen im Handelsregister des Amtsgerichts Düren Nr. HR B 3498 Vorsitzende des Aufsichtsrats: MinDirig'in Bärbel Brumme-Bothe Vorstand: Prof. Dr. Achim Bachem (Vorsitzender), Dr. Ulrich Krafft (stellv. Vorsitzender) list the
->> ->> -requirement of bulk job submission to the execution service, which is -> a ->> ->> -feature currently not supported). ->> ->> - ->> ->> ----------- ->> ->> - ->> ->> -Moreno. ->> ->> - ->> ->> --- ->> ->> -Moreno Marzolla ->> ->> -INFN Sezione di Padova, via Marzolo 8, 35131 PADOVA, Italy ->> ->> -EMail: moreno.marzolla@pd.infn.it Phone: +39 049 8277103 ->> ->> -WWW : http://www.dsi.unive.it/~marzolla Fax : +39 049 8756233 ->> -> ->> -> _______________________________________________ ->> -> Pgi-wg mailing list ->> -> Pgi-wg@ogf.org ->> -> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg -> -> -> ------------------------------------------------------------------------ -> -> _______________________________________________ -> Pgi-wg mailing list -> Pgi-wg@ogf.org -> http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg - --- -Dr Stephen Crouch, -Software Architect, -OMII-UK, -Electronics and Computer Science, -Room 4067, Level 4, Building 32, -University of Southampton, -Highfield, Southampton SO17 1BJ -Tel: +44 (0)23 8059 8787 EMail: s.crouch@omii.ac.uk -Fax: +44 (0)23 8059 3045 WWW: http://www.ecs.soton.ac.uk/~stc - - -_______________________________________________ -Pgi-wg mailing list -Pgi-wg@ogf.org -http://www.ogf.org/mailman/listinfo/pgi-wg